haskins02
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New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
I have noticed that it is hard to find new PCs with Firewire ports, yet manufacturers keep making tons of audio interfaces which use Firewire. What’s the deal? Is Firewire obsolete, yet pro audio gear manufacturers haven’t taken notice? I ask this because I would like to replace my PC (for Sonar X1) and still use my old Firewire audio interface (Power Studio/FA-66) which works just fine, thus avoiding having to buy a new interface (probably one of the faster USB-2 ones like M-Audio Fast Track Ultra or Cakewalk UA-101). Ideas? Thanks. Greg
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Norrie
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/17 17:57:26
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Simple If the Main board has not got on board Fire wire then buy a Fire wire card :) there cheep Norrie
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/17 18:51:12
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Firewire is on the way out. It is FACT. Apple pushed it hard and now abandoned it. Anyone can correct me if i'm wrong, but I know a lot of people in the tech industry even outside of music that agree on this... USB architecture is here to stay...USB3 (and ESATA) should be locking in as the new standards. Some devices are even retroactively now pushing "both firewire and USB2 options" in the advertising. Firewire always was BS to me. Even the physical nature of the adapters, especially the smaller 4 pin version, seemed whack and not structurally sound...not to mention the inflated real-life specs they promoted.
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Norrie
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/17 19:22:33
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I have usb3 on my board yet to find anything that needs it though lol
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haskins02
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/17 20:11:08
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Interesting response so far. Thanks. Norrie mentioned getting a "Firewire Card." I did not even know they exist. I assume that would apply to desk top PCs only, not a laptop, correct? Can most new desktop PC's accept a FireWire card? No one has yet responded to my general observation/question: why in the heck are there so many different types of Firewire interfaces still being sold (and made?) when Firewire is on its way out? Just manufacturer's inventory backlog?
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/17 22:18:05
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Because they can still be utilized. You can get a firewire express card for your laptop... but they're hit and miss for recording. Talk to JCSChild about that. As was pointed out USB 3 will probably put an end to them though.
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haskins02
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/18 00:04:21
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Even if Firewire express cards are problematic for laptops, what about cards for desk top PCs? Still problematic?
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haskins02
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/18 00:17:11
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I guess I am still confused about Firewire cards for PCs anyway. I though they were relatively inexpensive (per Norrie), compared to buying a new USB audio interface. But when I browse the Internet for Firewire cards, they seem to be about $400 plus I run the risk of it not working with my Firewire audio interface (Cakewalk Power Studio). So it seems it would be simpler and safer just to buy a USB audio interface and get rid of my Power Studio. Am I missing something? Thanks.
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/27 09:44:37
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ok firewire ISN'T problematic.. the wrong chipset IS.. so you stick to Texas Instruments.. and you'll be fine.. I even had that issue back in the day with USB.. and got an NEC chipset card and it was good. pro audio and video use it a lot.. so yer , no point to junk expensive equipment in a hurry. as with usb . there are other standards of firewire remember and not just 1 transfer / bit rate
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/27 15:12:26
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I've never seen Firewire as being a concern for an end user as it is for a hardware developer. It is on the way out and there will always be a market for legacy cards all the while people have hardware that relies on it. The reason hardware vendors still market firewire devices is because they are already developed and the companies will try to recoup as much revenue from their previous developments as they can. I'm sure there is very little if any interface hardware at the design stage currently being developed for Firewire. All that should concern an end user is whether the performance specs. are the right fit, not what the device works on. What should it matter to me whether something is Firewire (other than it now being a legacy format that isn't going to be supported in future), USB, PCI, PCIe or whatever provided the developer is getting the end results from the finished product? The comparisons of format specifications, i.e whether USB or Firewire are the 'best', are meaningless on their own. If a developer makes a device that smokes anything else on whatever format then who cares what it uses? Does this interface device fit my requirements spec. for performance, flexibility, practicality and portability are far more important questions to anyone other than a hardware developer.
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/27 17:27:35
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/01/28 09:43:22
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brooklynbowler Firewire is on the way out. It is FACT. Apple pushed it hard and now abandoned it. Anyone can correct me if i'm wrong, but I know a lot of people in the tech industry even outside of music that agree on this... USB architecture is here to stay...USB3 (and ESATA) should be locking in as the new standards. Some devices are even retroactively now pushing "both firewire and USB2 options" in the advertising. Firewire always was BS to me. Even the physical nature of the adapters, especially the smaller 4 pin version, seemed whack and not structurally sound...not to mention the inflated real-life specs they promoted. Does eSATA have any use implications other that connecting an external drive. Can it possibly be used to connect an interface? My new laptop has three USB ports and an eSATA. I figured I would grab a 10,000 RPM drive to use with the eS port for data transfer and backup but it would be awesome if some companies started using it for a faster connection for a controller or interface... but I don't know what is possible. Thanks, JB
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/02/20 19:21:35
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This is a very important question that the OP has posted. I too am in the same situation as the OP. Can anybody shed some light on this situation and what to do about it? I dont think any of the answers above have really enlightened me. What should Firewire users such as me do now that they are looking for a new Laptop. Do we have to abandon our firewire cards and wait for bated breath on USB3 soundcards? I would be grateful of any information about this as I want to buy a new Laptop in the next couple of months for recording. This is my biggest problem.
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Re:New PCs Don’t Have Firewire Yet Manufacturers Keep Making Firewire Interfaces – Why?
2011/02/21 11:57:32
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we aren't laptop makers so how can we enlighten you, is the blunt answer. I suggest you go directly to them and ask.. but thing is, the wrong chipset can still cause issues. errm pcmcia cards you could use perhaps , but my laptop hasn't got that slot where as my old one did.
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