New Peter Gabriel?

Hi,
 
Hmmmm .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_OtfstmDgo
 
Nice. Not great, I don't think, but very nice specially as it is going towards the end!

Reminded me more of his second album with hints of Up.  I agree James some new material would be interesting to hear.

That's just like ol Pete.  Gabriel doing Gabriel covers.  He just can't seem to break free of his "signature sound" when producing.  Also...and here's hoping this really was written for the Great One...the title pretty accurately describes the author's feelings about his own self.

I've got a couple DVD's of his live shows and I can't help thinking he'd make a great cult leader - lol!

Wookiee
Reminded me more of his second album with hints of Up.  I agree James some new material would be interesting to hear.

I'm not sure PG is up to new material. I still have, somewhere, the Melody Maker interview of his, when he left Genesis, and how disappointed he was with the over all response to TLLDOB, which, as time has gone by, has come to be appreciated more and more, and is already considered one of Genesis, best works all around, in the Progressive boards.
 
My take, is that with that, he became a bit too sensitive to people's likes and dislikes and the top ten world, with hits and such, and of course, when he made 10 times the money with a couple of his own pieces, now he is likely battling what he should/could do. 
 
My thoughts are that he should stop thinking about lyrics for a while, and just compose free as you like, and see what comes of it. I'm not sure that he can think outside of his own box right now, and is too ingrained in his own fame.
 
I'll still take Peter Hammill any day of the week. He is still creative and impulsive and out there and always a nice listen. I think PG believes he has to be "involved" in things that are cool and right on. I like to say he just didn't grow up!

Moshkito

Wookiee
Reminded me more of his second album with hints of Up.  I agree James some new material would be interesting to hear.

I'm not sure PG is up to new material. I still have, somewhere, the Melody Maker interview of his, when he left Genesis, and how disappointed he was with the over all response to TLLDOB, which, as time has gone by, has come to be appreciated more and more, and is already considered one of Genesis, best works all around, in the Progressive boards.
 
My take, is that with that, he became a bit too sensitive to people's likes and dislikes and the top ten world, with hits and such, and of course, when he made 10 times the money with a couple of his own pieces, now he is likely battling what he should/could do. 
 
My thoughts are that he should stop thinking about lyrics for a while, and just compose free as you like, and see what comes of it. I'm not sure that he can think outside of his own box right now, and is too ingrained in his own fame.
 
I'll still take Peter Hammill any day of the week. He is still creative and impulsive and out there and always a nice listen. I think PG believes he has to be "involved" in things that are cool and right on. I like to say he just didn't grow up!

I don't agree Pedro. PG has a very impressive body of work since he left Genesis, most of which IMO creatively outstrips anything he did with the band. His 4th solo album (called Security in the US) was really groundbreaking stuff and is still one of my favourite albums ever.
 
Have you heard 'OVO', for example, the soundtrack he did for the Millennium Dome Show in 2000? Amazing stuff, and not any 'easy' listen for anyone, except for maybe 'Father, Son' which is just a beautiful song.

Both sting and peter gabriel did a great job of extending their careers past the  early hype stage. For Sting it was jazz for peter gabriel I'm not sure what it was, he just had that cool edge that people seemed to like, especially  with the *well-read* set.  Both of them always seemed to be the grown ups in the room, even when they were young.  haha

jamesg1213
 
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I don't agree Pedro. PG has a very impressive body of work since he left Genesis, most of which IMO creatively outstrips anything he did with the band. His 4th solo album (called Security in the US) was really groundbreaking stuff and is still one of my favourite albums ever.
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I did not say I disliked his work. I happen to love his solo work, as much as I do the stuff he did with GENESIS, however, I have a tendency to think and appreciate "TLLDOB" and "SEBTP" a bit more, and probably because of the subtext and conceptual nature of the works, rather than the songs. 
 
However, at this stage of life and work, I think that folks like PH are much more interesting and different, instead of being "cool" and "withit" and "sociallysensible", as a way to get attention. 
 
I have watched some of the later work, and while nice with some great moments, in many ways ... it's nothing new ... as some of the previous material was.
 
After all these years, I'm still into NEW MUSIC, not quite rehashes of Tubular Bells, or PG songs. That is not a critical comment about them at all, it's just a preference. Imagine Stravinsky repeating himself after FIREBIRD SUITE. BTW, this time I want to hear BAPU do the instruments on TB ... he would do a much better job, than all of them, except the late's Vivian Stanshall of course! But even then, Bapu might out shine him!
 
We're discussing two different things.

Tony Banks hated The Lamb.

Moshkito

jamesg1213
Tony Banks hated The Lamb.

That's his problem. 
 
(hehehehehe!!!!!)
 
Actually I always thought he was just not wanting to play so many different things on stage and simply using one keyboard to play the same thing with different notes was enough for him!
 
ROFLLLLLOLOLOL!!!!!
 
I have actually never thought of TB as one of the best keyboard folks around. Absolutely nothing compared to an Edgar Froese, Vangelis, Ryuichi Sakamoro, Jean Michel Jarre and the like. I could not careless what TB thought of TLLDOB in retrospect, as what you are suggesting is that the only thing he can play is a bunch of pop songs, because he has no talent for real music?

 
Where exactly did I, or anyone else say that? I never said anything about his keyboard skills compared to your oft-mentioned favourite players either. I don't know where you dream up this nonsense.
 
Banks has gone on record saying that he disliked Gabriel's story about the street-kid Rael for the Lamb, he felt it was too simple and 'un-satisfying'. he also said that none of the songs made sense out of context, apart from Carpet Crawlers and In The Cage.
 
You brought up the subject of TLLDOB, I'm just carrying on with it.

craigb

I know. I should just put him back on block like 'that other one'.

 

eph221
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(I simply dropped your point from a height.)

jamesg1213
 
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Where exactly did I, or anyone else say that? I never said anything about his keyboard skills compared to your oft-mentioned favorite players either. I don't know where you dream up this nonsense.
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I merely stated an opinion via a comparison. Obviously, you did not like the "comparison" ... and I bet it has more to do with pop music, than somewhat more challenging and serious music that my examples tended to create.
 
I have never disliked TB, or Genesis, or PG. Of all the solo albums by any of them, I find that Anthony Phillips is far more interesting than any of them, although I have to say that Steve Hackett is doing a lot of very nice stuff as well. My list of CD's by those two is immense, and surpasses the others.
 
If you believe all opinions are non-sense, you might take a look at yours, as well?
 
I'm not sure that a "keyboard skill" has anything to do with music itself. There are many folks that know all the keys and all the switches, and they have no soul behind them to carry them through and to ME, the proof is in the originality and the music design and work. After a while a song is just a song, and a pre-fabricated process and design, and for my tastes, I fell out of that process a long time ago.
 
I can enjoy a song just as well, but my real satisfaction? In the music itself, and not just a teasing moment, as most songs tend to show us ... thus, I happen to like longer things, and sometimes they may be conceptual and sometimes they might not be ... but they show some variety and talent, that most musicians are afraid to try and tackle. That's why they come back to the "song". It's easier, and everybody "knows" it.
 
But for me, PG is like so many folks out there ... mainly copying what they have done before. It's still nice, but not special for my tastes.

yorolpal
Is there really such a thing as the "new" Peter Gabriel?

Thank you!

yorolpal
Is there really such a thing as the "new" Peter Gabriel?

Good point. Earlier today, I was listening to the first Ein Deutsches Album, German lyrics and remix of his 3rd album; he also did a German version of his 4th and gave it the same name. See, even his album names are "old" (recycled!).