Frostysnake
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New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
I'm looking for a few sites or ideas I can look at to free up some desk space as well as make thinkgs a little more ergonomic. Something to hold my MIDI Keyboard, drum machine and a couple other pieces..maybe a 2 tier system of some sort. Anyone know of a good site that can provide a nice array of options?
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daveny5
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 11:25:09
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Paul P
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 11:40:07
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A good chair is at the top of my list of important items.
The PC keyboard and your Midi keyboard both like to be right in front of you so it would be good to figure out some sort of two tiered system for that.
Some have the PC keyboard under the desk on slides, for others it's the Midi keyboard that's underneath. One problem is that you can't have both at proper height.
I just made a desk for my installation that is shaped like a kidney with a curved cutout in the front so the desk wraps a bit around me. This keeps things closer when you swivel to get at equipment on the sides or behind. It also looks pretty cool.
For strickly Midi keyboard playing, you'd probably be better off if you were standing.
One thing I'd like to do is grow a few more arms. There are too many pieces involved in electronic music making for just two arms and hands.
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 11:43:51
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I know it's not entirely revolutionary but recently I put some shelves up behind my desk, with the lowest shelf about 4 inches higher than the desk. I put my screens (and some other stuff - interface, VRM box etc) on this shelf, which freed up a lot of space on the desk. I stash my MIDI keyboard underneath the shelf so it's out of the way when I'm not using it. Anytime I need it I just pull it toward me, and put my computer keyboard on the shelf between the monitors. Not exactly a pro studio setup but it worked wonders to tidy up and organize my music space, which was a cramped mess before. Of course you have to make sure you use something like toggle bolts for the shelves if you're putting heavy stuff on there.
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Frostysnake
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 11:50:03
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All good guys...giving lots of ideas...a few I hadn't thought about...this is turning into much more of a change up than I intended. I also want to leave room to grow as well...but I am confined to a fairly small space...
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Paul P
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 12:10:48
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sharke : " Of course you have to make sure you use something like toggle bolts for the shelves if you're putting heavy stuff on there." This is very important !
And if you use a magnet or stud finder, you can screw your shelf supports into solid wood which is very strong. I have nightmares left over from hanging out in an acoustics forum and hearing the ways people hung their bass traps and diffusors over their heads without regard to how well they were anchored. And some for customers.
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Paul P
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 13:48:57
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Another thing to think about : your monitors don't like wide table-like surfaces just in front of them, as this causes comb filtering which will screw up your mixes (the combination of the direct sound from the speaker and its reflection off the desk causes all sorts of havoc). You can reduce the effect by having absorption on your desk, but then you might as well use a smaller desk. There a great free tool for measuring room and monitor performance called Room EQ Wizard.
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Frostysnake
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 13:55:41
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 14:20:44
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Are you opposed to using a trackball? Just the fact you don't have to have room to slide a mouse around can save quite a bit of desk space. It may not seem like much but it really makes a difference. Also with the right trackball it's a lot easier on your hand especially for a guitarist. You aren't turning your hand into a claw all the time. They also tend to be far more precise for editing and adjusting parameters. This is the one I use. http://www.amazon.com/Ken...ll-64325/dp/B00009KH63 Pricey but it's awesome. It free rolls almost like an old arcade game... which also makes it really cool for playing FPS's.
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 14:24:34
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One thing though is the scroll ring on mine doesn't play nice with Sonar but I think that's because mine is old and starting to fail. I'm gonna have to buy a new one eventually.
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Paul P
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 14:43:26
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Hey Frostysnake, that thing is awesome ! I didn't know this sort of thing existed.
If it's solid, it might indeed be an interesting option.
You could have a regular surface behind you or off to the side for writing stuff.
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 14:46:49
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Frostysnake
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 14:55:21
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I NEED a track ball for sure! Good cal Beep...and I am also considering bulding one as well, so I do appreciate the input...this is great! Can anyone give me there old 20X20 building if they aren't using it??
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Stipes Vigilo
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 15:01:21
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Another store worth mentioning for Studio Furniture: http://www.samedaymusic.com/browse--Studio-Racks-and-Workstations--2799 I've personally reached a stage where all of those really don't fit. So I'm contemplating building my own... In fact I have two 12sp rack cage rails coming in this week so I can put them at the required depth of 30" for my UPS and C30. MOTUs being only 7" deep are a hassle to work connections in the back of a 15/19 rack. Radias being only 5" seems to be better suited to being angled down from above. Desks in productions are usually too long and not deep enough. And the desktop rack bridges never take into account that you lose the bottom 2/3 spaces with whatever you put on the desk in front of it. It would be really nice if these companies actually built them as they are used.
post edited by Stipes Vigilo - 2013/03/12 15:11:55
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Paul P
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 15:10:31
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Metalbat : "I made my own " Nice ! Making your own is definitely rewarding if you have the equipment and the time. I have a full-blown woodworking shop left over from another life, but I don't have much time to spare these days.
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Beepster
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 15:22:15
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How good of a carpenter are you and are you allowed to attach stuff to your walls? I've built tons of desks mounted directly to the walls with angled supports (so there are no desk legs getting in the way) and then built platforms around that. Sometimes I'll hang shelves from chains attached to the ceiling and stuff too. All made out of sheets of laminate given to me or yanked out of the trash (think broken down Ikea stuff). Then I just buy some screws and 1x4's (for extra support and to give the screws something solid to bite into). I attach it all to the wall studs but if I can't for some reason (aluminum studs, drywall/plaster on concrete, etc...) I use evenly space plugs to attach the main mounting 2x4 (usually salvaged as well) then work around that. I've made crazy set ups this way in some seemingly impossible spaces. Now however I can't really do that because my current space won't allow for it and I'm not quite as physically capable of that level of mayhem. The current set up is a couple old interior doors that I attached folding steel table legs to (with 1x4's for extra support and to give the screws something to bite into) and one folding desk with a resin top. The table legs were $20 a pair and the resin table was $40. I want to cover the door tables with sticky floor tiles so they are a cleanable high gloss surface (currently just enamel paint which isn't great but works). Essentially I have three huge surfaces. The resin top is where my DAW lives. One of the door tables is on the abutting wall creating an L shaped work surface with the resin desk and has my Line6 head on it and I use it to put my laptop there so I can read manuals, the forum, lyrics etc (I keep copies of all that stuff on the laptop so I can just have Sonar in view on the big rig at all times). Eventually my mixer and when I need it my big keyboard will live there too. The other door desk is on the other side of the room and is basically a work table where I can work on my guitars and stuff but I also have my old DAW sitting on it so I can eventually fire it back up to transfer all my old projects to the new system. It might end up being where the laptop will live eventually too if I decide to leave my big keyboard set up all the time. Long winded post is long winded but I'm taking a break from cleaning and figured it might give you some ideas. Cheers, Frosty.
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Beepster
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 15:28:47
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Oh and the only tools I need to make those crazy home made laminate desks are a handsaw (but a chopsaw is helpful for the angle cuts), a level (just to mark the wall so the desk is level), a framing square (any square will do though or even something with a tight right angle like a pack of smokes) and a drill with a couple boring and driver bits... oh and a pencil. I kind of miss doing my crazy carp.
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Stipes Vigilo
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 15:32:29
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BTW: I have the same problem with simple keyboard stands for decades. Racks divide into what things must be horizontal (computers and back up power) and those more acessable in front and back by angling them on a movable axis. It's best if we remember that a percentage of our time dealing with racks are in the back of it. Everything could be better designed.
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Paul P
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/12 15:39:35
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Stipes Vigilo : "It's best if we remember that a percentage of time dealing with racks are in the back of it. " Good point. Having a patchbay to bring all the rear connections up front is a blessing. I made one for my stuff. Time consuming and expensive if you use quality jacks (sockets, UK) but very much worth it.
A bit tricky with XLR and USB connections, but possible.
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/13 10:53:16
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I have a highly modified Fender Squier with a wireless Logitech trackball mounted to the right of the bridge using double sticky pads. There's also a wired optical mouse on that same computer, the two get along fine and don't fight. Very handy while moving around playing guitar, easy to stop and start Sonar without my guitar banging into the desk. I wouldn't do that to a guitar with a nice finish but the Squier is plain black. I have to pull the adhesive pads to change trackball batteries once in a while, and the remaining adhesive rolls off the guitar finish with thumb pressure. One thing to be aware of...this trackball is designed to operate in a horizontal position, with gravity holding the ball tight to both X-Y rollers to scroll smoothly in two dimensions. With the trackball mounted on the face of the guitar while standing, there's a bit of slop in precision trackballing, but my fingers learned to allow for it the first day.
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Frostysnake
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/13 10:59:10
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LOL...JayTee that is quite out of the box...and I am not THAT motivated to be so inventive...many props. Beep, I wish I had the time to do such carpentry but that is a no go...I am also lazy. I won't something delivered and that takes 20 minutes to set up...I just can't find the time to do all that. I wish I could, but this whole work for a living thing gets in the way! I'm sure you and a few others here can relate...
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Stipes Vigilo
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/13 14:37:15
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Re:New Studio set-up needed...ideas please...
2013/03/13 14:55:35
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