New Synth from D16 group.

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2012/09/14 01:20:20 (permalink)

New Synth from D16 group.

I really like D16's effects when you want soothing different to the usual phaser, chorus or reverb.
 
They have just put out a pre release announcement of a new synth. http://www.d16.pl/lush-101
 
My first reaction was "What a SH101 emulation, the must be mad." However it looks like this is much more. The only question bigger than what will be the price is why did they model the GIU on a SH101? 
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/14 11:21:38 (permalink)
    They're billing it as "the only synthesizer you'll ever need".  The demos do sound great. EDM ain't my thing, but some of the demos are reminiscent of Constance Demby, which is more my speed. 

    Funny thing is that back in the day I had a real SH-101 for awhile,  didn't care for it at all. Some of the demos did remind me of why I got rid of it, while others made me think "my SH-101 never sounded that good."
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/14 12:33:09 (permalink)
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    Funny thing is that back in the day I had a real SH-101 for awhile,  

     
    For a while my set up included a SH101, MC202, TR303 Bassline and a TR606. I did over dubs on a Fostex 4 track cassette to build up chords. I dumped it all for Korg Poly 800 a Yamaha DX21 and a Alesis drum machine. The replacments were hardly classic kit but the only regret was not holding on to the TR303 until they became fasionable and worth a forturne.
     
    I digress, but the demos sound a lot better than my SH101 ever did! I think the reason is its 8 basic subtractive synth layered on to of each other with a D16 group effects section.
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/14 12:57:21 (permalink)
    I thought the demoes sounded Real good. Just wonder what the price will be?



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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/15 17:21:22 (permalink)
    http://kunz.corrupt.ch/products/tal-bassline remind you of anything ? :)
    Lush though , it's a 101 + much more.. deffo tempted , I bought all the d16 stuff in bundles when it was on offer :)

    hopefully they will offer a discount to owners of their other stuff..

    friend has a real 101, I used a vst one years ago for a few tunes.. I guess it's a bit of a marmite synth.. you love it or hate it :)


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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/16 00:03:55 (permalink)
    This thing sounds pretty awesome, really.  This plug might be uniquely versatile enough to find a wider range of uses and justification for acquisition. It may be worth consideration even to those that don't do EDM. I'd like to hear more samples and see the price first, however, and afterward reviewing the manual, to give it more evaluation.

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/16 00:48:37 (permalink)
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    friend has a real 101, I used a vst one years ago for a few tunes.. I guess it's a bit of a marmite synth.. you love it or hate it :)
    It was what it was, a low cost, single oscillator, subtractive mono synth, probably the best thing available in its price range when it came out.

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/16 00:51:10 (permalink)
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    It may be worth consideration even to those that don't do EDM. .
    That's me. From the demos I think I could find uses for it, but it will depend on the price.


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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 02:03:02 (permalink)
    I got a scattergram from them today. They are offering a chance to win copies of LuSH101 if you "like" them on Facebook.

    I will have nothing to do with Facebook myself, but if you do its probably worth having a go.

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 02:50:00 (permalink)
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    I thought the demoes sounded Real good. Just wonder what the price will be?


    Anything less than $150 and I will be interested.  Anything more than $150 and I will think about it.  Anything more than $200 and I will totally pass on it.

    My guess is $149, or $179.  We will see.



    Its a killer synth though.  Its, "an acid monster."

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 08:38:12 (permalink)
    D16 stuff is great. I really rate them.

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 13:25:42 (permalink)
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    I thought the demoes sounded Real good. Just wonder what the price will be?

    cheaper if you have d16 products already :) ..


    would have a guess at £90-140 though , reason being other synths like sylenth , alchemy etc etc

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 17:53:38 (permalink)
    Are you all sure it has a liniage derived from the SH-101?  I never owned one but always concidered it kind of a consumer grade synth.  Something you get for your kid who decided to start a band.  Did I miss the boat on that?

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 18:46:36 (permalink)
    yep you assumed wrongly .. *BUT* it depends on what your type of music making is /was.. much like when someone I knew who worked for roland could get 303's for £26 back in the day and didn't by a load of em :)

    trust me d16 are on point with their roland clones so far.. and their fx are good also.. demo them, and you'll see.. so on the scale of will it be accurate ? it's a none brainer from what I know of their rep AND the demos I've heard.

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/09/26 21:27:59 (permalink)
    Sounds really awesome! I'm not much synth user though only synth really use was the Mini-moog . 
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/03 07:25:14 (permalink)
    I just listened to the new audio they threw up on soundcloud...   not good, imo...   I've lost interest.   I'll leave it at that.

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/11 10:47:13 (permalink)
    D16 has announced that a long-awaited synthesizer LuSH-101 is about to be released. Release date is planned on Thursday, October 18th, 2012 10:10:10 AM (CET).

    Retail price is going to be 149 EUR / 199 USD / 119 GBP.

    Discount coupon codes will be prepared for the loyal customers and information about this will be available soon.
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/13 12:37:08 (permalink)
    hopefully it'll be a bigger discount the more you have of theirs. I bought the fx and instrument bundles :)

    if they knock £30-40 off it great.. if it's £10, well I'll email em saying "big deal" .. but I'll have a guess at £20 off


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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/13 13:25:51 (permalink)
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      but I'll have a guess at £20 off 

    Who they are really screwing over is us Americans..   Because their European Prices include VAT.  and apparently so do their USA prices... They are charging, as far as I can tell, "about $39 extra," as an export fee or something...

    Think about it..   149eur - 17% vat or so, is only 124eur, which is only $160 or thereabouts...  ??   I'm happy I haven't bought any of their products, and it looks highly unlikely I will in the near/far future.  I just wont stand for that kind of, "let's pillage the American People," business plan/pricing scheme.

    Fair: would be acknowledging that customers in the USA do not have to pay VAT.  Customers in the USA no longer have a dollar that is so weak against the pound or euro. 

      I think its great they've priced their stuff that way though..  Its also great we can call em out on that, and not support their efforts.  Ah, "when capitalism works great." 
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/14 16:45:53 (permalink)
    you do have taxes though , like state ones etc ?  when I went Canada years ago.. it was GST / PST (which I could claim back being a none resident)

    d16 are Polish , so can't speak for the tax on exports to the US from there.. VAT is 20% now ;-) and last time (long ago was 17.5)

    I would have got done over if I bought my 824's + mackie BK weeks later = BIG price hike for a US import.. so now you're feeling a bit of our pain with US companies ;-)

    how does it work with say PSP ? they are also polish, do you get charged tax with them also?


    like PSP their products are good, so I'm happy you don't buy it.. as the fewer that do.. the better for me...

    but joking aside, I'd wait till xmas IF it's that much an issue, as I bet they do a nice xmas price on their bundles.


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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/15 00:21:43 (permalink)
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     you do have taxes though....        as I bet they do a nice xmas price on their bundles. 


      Yeah..  We've got taxes in the USA, but they do not work like VAT.  There is no all around, "blanket tax."  You can find some states may charge a sales tax for certain items, but have no income tax..  Other states may have high income and property but no sales tax...  Other states have only property tax...   Even the Federal Tax code is beyond complicated..   But I am not a tax lawyer...   or an Accountant..   and the intricacies of the USA Tax Code are far beyond my understanding...   

    Anyways...   I like PSP...   I bought all my PSP plugins when the eurodollar was closer to 1.48/0.74...   There is no comparison with how the economy is acting now..   I don't recall paying a VAT when I bought my PSP bundles..

    In closing..  "we are all better off, using synths other folk are not using or dislike."  Our music benefits by us having totally different favorites for synths, compressors, eqs, reverb, daws...

    I was actually interested in this plugin at one point..  I might still demo it eventually, buy it eventually, and likely not...  who knows...


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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/15 06:45:16 (permalink)
    well when I bought a mackie BK it was £150 ages ago.. then it went up to £253 in a few weeks!!! ... it currently is £216.. you might find you did pay tax on the PSP stuff, as the shop does add it.. only reason for mentioning them is because they are poland based also.

    perhaps email them, they will tell you how it works out.. their stuff is very good though.. try the demos anyway.. you'll see  


    I had a look at their shop, and it's via digital river / share it , they might be based in germany coz of the GBH thing 

    the "sales tax" is 19% 

    .. and saw this >>



    Adapting sales tax/VAT when country of delivery is changed
    If the country of delivery is changed during the order process, the sales tax/VAT rate shown here may also change.
    Note: We are required by law to display final prices (equal to the product price plus any applicable VAT) in the order process. Under certain circumstances, if, for instance, a VAT ID is entered during the order process for a transaction between two companies, the total amount displayed may be reduced by the exact VAT amount.


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    the total bundle is 449 euro.. BUT in USD = $549 (solely from their site)

    *BUT* using XE.com .. the same as 449 euro TODAY = $582

    so you are getting it cheaper than what it should be *IF* it's like for like. their price is derived from the Euro price probably. You could claim the VAT back I guess, not sure if / how others do that as I'm not in the US or have a company to claim it back via.


    it's a pity roland themselves didn't do vst's of their own instruments

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/18 08:06:10 (permalink)
    The LuSH101 demo is now available on the website

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/18 12:13:25 (permalink)
      Interesting..  I'm checking out the demo, but I recently bought Oxium so their is slim chance I will grab, "two new synths," unless this Lush101 thing is so amazing, "specifically to me."  I realize that Lush101 might be amazing to others, and that I might be missing the point completely
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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/18 12:19:58 (permalink)
    tried the demo, just bought it.. got a bit off the price as I'm a previous customer.  it does the classic 101 sound , but a lot more..  

    there is a joke name for one of the patches "sylenth night" .. so if you like that synth by lennar, you'll like this one pretty much.
      




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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/18 12:24:36 (permalink)
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    tried the demo, just bought it.. got a bit off the price as I'm a previous customer.

    it does the classic 101 sound , but a lot more.. 


    Awesome!!  Enjoy it..   I agree it does that classic sound and a lot more..   but I am passing because, "Rapture is my only synth that I want, "complexity from."  I've spent years learning it, and I am comfortable with it..   All the other synths I pass on, have complexity!  Synth squad, Reaktor, and a lot of other NI synths are very complex..   so I pass on them..   Synths that turn me on instantly now, are simple synths for stupid people..  lol..   ACE, Diva, Oxium, Retrologue..   Those are the demos that I have most enjoyed recently...

    I think its awesome though, "we don't all need to have the same kit."   Enjoy the new synth though!   I bet you will make some amazing music with it...

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    Re:New Synth from D16 group. 2012/10/18 12:28:30 (permalink)
    well I used a friends sh-101 in old stuff back in the 90's.. but couldn't justify the money. also it does a good impression of the sid chip (c64) , so saves me buying re-fx's quadrasid .. perhaps they should drop the price of that now hehe.

    I would'nt say diva is simple.. thats next on my shopping list, but I'm waiting till xmas probably for that when all the companies have sales on.


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