New, Updated SonarTest

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Nathan Knight
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/05/26 02:38:09
Now... this is a nice bonus to having a web-based forum. I can update this top post at will in order to keep updated results readily available to all.

Scott, how do you update the top post of a forum?
Andy C
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/05/26 08:15:50
Bruce Ennis: SHUTTLE SN25P nVIDIA nFORCE4 CHIPSET
AMD ATHLON 64 4000+


Bruce I've read on the Sound on Sound forum that


There is currently a problem with all PCIe motherboards used for DAWs, though nForce4 may have it worst.


I take it your not haveing any problems ?

Andy
jcschild
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/06/03 13:31:59
Killer new laptop benchmarks!
tested @ 44.1 24bit with M-Audio 410
Centrino 533 fsb (and PCIe 6600 go video) overclocked to 2.4G
Dual channel DDR2 533 ( 2 x 512)

Scott Reams Sonar test
5.8 29%
2.9 38%
1.5 55%

it kept up with the dual Xeon!

ADK Sonar test

23.2 71%
11.6 82%
5.8 no go...

for comparison
Gigabyte K8ns Ultra 939
939 pin 3800+ 1 gig ram (
RME Multiface
23.2 = 78%

11.6 = 87%

Scott
ADK
missword
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/06/04 03:11:12
Just read this thread and wanted to post another centrino result - toshiba m30 1.6Ghz 1MB Cache, Echo Indigo I/O, Windows XP Home, 512MB RAM, Sonar PE 4.0.2

at 1.6Ghz

46: 29
23.2: 31
11.6: 34
5.8: 38
2.9: 46
1.5: 65 +/- 5

OC to 1.9Ghz

46: 24
23.2: 26
11.6: 29
5.8: 33
2.9: 39
1.5: 53 +/- 3
diggerbarnz
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/06/04 06:01:04
Just wondering why the last 30 responses to this forum have come to my mail & not the original "poster"!!!!!!!!!!
Dale Aston
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/17 14:56:31
Date: 07/17/2005

46.4 23%
23.2 26%
11.6 30%
5.8 37%
2.9 N/A

Figures are average readings from meter variation of +/- 2%


Dell Dimension XPS
P4 3.6 with HT "On"
2 Gig RAM
two Raid-0 74 GB 10,000rpm drives
M Audio Firewire 410 & newest drivers vs. 5.10.0.5034
XP Home SP1

Sonar 4.02
24 bit file depth
Sampling Rate: 44100
Buffers in playback queue: 2
timboe
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/18 21:01:40
Hi Dale

Thanks for doing that.

Re:- the lower latency settings of 2.9ms and 1.5ms - did you not test these, or did the test lock-up / drop-out ?

Tim
Nathan Knight
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/19 06:38:16
Are we supposed to do this test with the ASIO drivers? I get better results with the WDM drivers.
Dale Aston
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/19 18:27:52
ORIGINAL: timboe

Hi Dale

Thanks for doing that.

Re:- the lower latency settings of 2.9ms and 1.5ms - did you not test these, or did the test lock-up / drop-out ?

Tim
The M-Audio driver limits the latency setting to 5.8 ms. I move the slider in Sonar farther to the left but it doesn't change the reading for latency. I guess that's a limitation of the driver. I tried WDM and it's much worse latency.
Scott Reams
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/20 04:11:52
Dale,

Try ASIO and try changing the buffer size in the ASIO Panel. I think the Firewire410 goes lower than 5.8ms.

-S
Dale Aston
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/21 10:57:54
ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

Dale,

Try ASIO and try changing the buffer size in the ASIO Panel. I think the Firewire410 goes lower than 5.8ms.

-S
Thanks Scott
Followed your advice and got it down to 2.9ms and CPU running at 52%. The audio stops at 1.5ms.

Dale
Dale Aston
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/25 20:07:39
ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

Dale,

Try ASIO and try changing the buffer size in the ASIO Panel. I think the Firewire410 goes lower than 5.8ms.

-S
Scott,

What the best I/O buffer setting? I have 2 gig RAM, P4 3.6 ghz Dell. Right now it's set at 512kb.

Also does checking "Enable Read Caching" and "Enable Write Cahing" help latency?

Thanks,

Dale
Junski
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/26 03:07:11
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post edited by Junski - 2006/01/14 02:34:59
Dale Aston
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/07/26 20:41:13
Thanks, Junski for the expanded information. I will play around with it.

Dale
Scott Reams
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/08/06 16:20:39
Okay folks...

There's a new entry on the chart that many should find interesting. I ran some quick tests on a dual-CPU dual-core Opteron 275 system (four cores). The test wasn't 100% ideal, because I was running 32bit Sonar4 in 64bit Windows (which hurts performance a little). Sonar likes all four cores. This system is the new leader on the chart by quite a bit, despite being 400MHz slower than the Opteron 252s which previously led the pack:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=34827&mpage=1&key=

-Scott
pharohoknaughty
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/08/07 00:07:16

ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

Okay folks...

There's a new entry on the chart that many should find interesting. I ran some quick tests on a dual-CPU dual-core Opteron 275 system (four cores). The test wasn't 100% ideal, because I was running 32bit Sonar4 in 64bit Windows (which hurts performance a little). Sonar likes all four cores. This system is the new leader on the chart by quite a bit, despite being 400MHz slower than the Opteron 252s which previously led the pack:

http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.asp?m=34827&mpage=1&key=

-Scott



Scott

did you notice that 4.0.3 changes the result? My testing shows that it averages slightly higher CPU usage, but does not jump up out of bounds as often, so that I can now run at 1.5 when I could not before.

By the way, this sounds like you have a great machine with the 275 system.
eric_peterson
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/08/07 09:07:08
Has anyone posted results for any of the new Athlon "X2" processors?
jcschild
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/08/08 11:30:51
Mark Ubl
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/09/03 19:04:40
Ok here are my numbers:
46.4 16%
23.2 18%
11.6 20%
5.8 24%
2.9 31%
1.5 51%


Here are the numbers with out the dual processor engaged:
46.4 26%
23.2 29%
11.6 32%
5.8 39%
2.9 48%
1.5 65%

Both using:
AISO drivers
System as follows:
Gigabyte GA-K8NS Ultrra 939
Athlon 64 X2 4400
Windows XP Pro
(4) 512 DDR 3200 dual channel 2 gig total
(2) WD 160 gig ata133 HD
Radeon 9800 pro
(2) delta 1010's
(2) UAD
Dual 19" LCD Mag Monitors
Mackie Control

post edited by Mark Ubl - 2005/09/04 00:59:40
mark s
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/09/12 23:16:48
Here are some specs for a new laptop running Sonar 4.03 PE.

Sager 5560

Pentium M 2mhz w 2g L2 cache
1 gig DDR2 ram (2x 512 meg)
Intel 915 chipset
120 gig 7200 rpm drive
XP Home
MOTU 896 HD

AC adapter used

Running ASIO (seems to work better on this system)

Samples latency (ms) cpu %

2048 46.4 27%
1024 23.2 29%
512 11.6 32%
256 5.8 39%
128 2.9 48%
96 2.2 58%

I initially had trouble with this test. Only at 256 samples was it stable enough to get a solid reading. CPU meter spiked constantly. But after tweaking and ESPECIALLY after setting the power scheme to ALWAYS ON did it settle down. I was able to get good solid readings.

My mouth is just now able to shut. This machine is faster than the NEO2 platinum with an A64 3500 that I had before. I suspect the DDR2 ram has something to do with it?

I like it!
kab
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/03 09:58:54
Unintentional bump... are there any plans for this same sort of shootout for Sonar 5 running under 64 bit mode?
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/22 00:57:31

ORIGINAL: kab

Unintentional bump... are there any plans for this same sort of shootout for Sonar 5 running under 64 bit mode?




I second that motion...................
MArwood
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/22 01:46:50
I would like to see more of the AMD X2's results.
Max Arwood
Scott Reams
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/22 03:08:22
My mouth is just now able to shut. This machine is faster than the NEO2 platinum with an A64 3500 that I had before. I suspect the DDR2 ram has something to do with it?


Actually, DDR2 , with its higher latencies, has very little to do with it. PentiumM is simply a very efficient CPU.

I do plan on rewriting Sonartest for Sonar5 soon and posting for a new set of results. Stay tuned for that...

-S
Duojet
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/22 15:18:35
just some suggestions for that. what would be nice to see are tests using:

32bit Sonar with 32 bit engine
32 bit Sonar with 64 bit engine
64 bit(x64) Sonar with 32 bit engine (not sure if this one is necessary or relevant)
64 bit Sonar(x64) with 64 bit engine
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/22 20:46:02

ORIGINAL: Scott Reams

My mouth is just now able to shut. This machine is faster than the NEO2 platinum with an A64 3500 that I had before. I suspect the DDR2 ram has something to do with it?


Actually, DDR2 , with its higher latencies, has very little to do with it. PentiumM is simply a very efficient CPU.

I do plan on rewriting Sonartest for Sonar5 soon and posting for a new set of results. Stay tuned for that...

-S


Thank you, Sir.
MRatton
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/26 10:47:53
I couldn't run the test on Sonar 3.1.1 (dropout).
I tested both Sonar 4.04 and Sonar 5, and their results were practically the same:

AMD Athlon XP 2600+ (1.9 GHz)
512 MB RAM
Win XP Home
Yamaha 01X with ASIO driver

46 ms ........... 39%
35 ms ........... 41%
22.5 ms ........ 45%
11.5 ms ........ 54%
6 ms ............ 79%
3 ms ............ dropout
1.5 ms ......... not available



soundsubs
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/10/27 11:02:58
Here are my results with my system:

Pentium D 820, (dual@2.8ghz)
1Gb RAM
Winders Server 2003, sp1
E-MU 0404 ASIO drivers
(use Multiprocessor Engine checked)
Sonar 4.04

2ms = 70%
4ms = 42%
5ms = 37%
7ms = 33%
10ms = 27%
20ms = 23%
40ms = 20%


---shane
JoePaz
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/03 19:45:25
After reading how ridiculously easy it is to overclock the Athlon64 X2 3800+, I thought I'd give it a go. System is rock stable at 2.4ghz and temps never get above the mid-40's even under full load with the stock cooler. Numbers are with SONAR 4.04, since the 5.0 CPU numbers are whacked.

23.2ms = 16%
11.6ms = 19%
5.8ms = 25%
2.9ms = 35%
2.2ms = 43%
1.5ms = 51%
1.1ms = 67%

MSI Neo4 Platinum (nForce4 6.70 chipset drivers, 1.90 BIOS)
Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.4ghz
2gb Corsair XPS ram
SIIG x1 PCI-e Firewire400 controller
2 x UAD-1
4 x 250gb SATA Seagate Barracudas
GeForce 7800GT OC
WinXP SP2
Fireface 800

JP
post edited by JoePaz - 2005/11/03 19:48:35
Rain
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/03 23:58:15
On my yet-to-be-optimized/freshly installed machine, with Internet Explorer opened and a bunch of "useless" process running in the background, I get the following:

1.5 79%
2.9 54%
5.8 46%
11.6 42%
23.2 36%
46.4 32%

5.8 ms being the comfort zone for me, I rarely run into a dropout or out of tracks...


AMD Athlon XP 2800+
A7N8X Board
nVidia GeForce 4MX
512 MB Ram
M Audio Delta 44
XP SP2
Sonar PE4
eric_peterson
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/11 10:53:36
What RAM did you use? Your link didn't work. Are you still happy with this MB? In other words, is it stable now that you fixed the bad IDE cable problem? They just came out with the Master2-Far7 version, and that looks interesting to me. It will support the dual core opterons. I haven't seen any reviews yet.
underblu
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/12 11:35:12
X2 3800 overclocked @2700GHZ N4 SLI MB 7800GTX video card 2GB of DDR

S3 Test in S5

16 ms = 12%
10 ms = 17%
5 ms = 22%
2 ms = 38%

fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/12 13:17:56

ORIGINAL: underblu

X2 3800 overclocked @2700GHZ N4 SLI MB 7800GTX video card 2GB of DDR

S3 Test in S5

16 ms = 12%
10 ms = 17%
5 ms = 22%
2 ms = 38%




Impressive...

Any numbers without overclocking.....

Regards,
underblu
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/12 16:57:24
With the X3800 running @2.4GHZ I's say my usage increased about 15%.

I haven't run my chip at stock since I bought it but maybe I'll try it it just for a reference point.

Another point, even though I haven't had any problems opening projects a 2.7GHZ, this overclock with 1.5 volts has not proved prime95 stable, therefore I would be hesitant to use it for a serious project. However, 2.4GHZ works with a minimal voltage increase over stock ans is 100% Prime95 stable.

Just so you know Prime95 and SuperPi are tools that let you test the stability of your overclock. They stress the CPU, memory, cache etc. so you can determine if you have any instabilities.
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/12 17:28:30

ORIGINAL: underblu

With the X3800 running @2.4GHZ I's say my usage increased about 15%.

I haven't run my chip at stock since I bought it but maybe I'll try it it just for a reference point.

Another point, even though I haven't had any problems opening projects a 2.7GHZ, this overclock with 1.5 volts has not proved prime95 stable, therefore I would be hesitant to use it for a serious project. However, 2.4GHZ works with a minimal voltage increase over stock ans is 100% Prime95 stable.

Just so you know Prime95 and SuperPi are tools that let you test the stability of your overclock. They stress the CPU, memory, cache etc. so you can determine if you have any instabilities.


Great info.



Regards,

OffAnAirplane
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/12 17:40:55
Hewlett-Packard a830n

Processor:
Pentium4 540 (P) HT 3.2 GHz:
800 MHz Front side bus
Socket 775
Hyperthreading enable for test

Chipset:
Intel 915G

Motherboard:
Manufacturer: Asus
Motherboard Name: PTGD1-LA

Memory:
2 GB (4 x 512)
PC3200

Hard drives:
Western Digital 7200rpm 250Gb SATA (System Drive)
Maxtor 7200rpm 250Gb SATA (Audio Drive)

Sound Card:
MOTU 828MkII

OS Software:
Windows XP Home

Audio Software:
Sonar 4.0.3 Producer Edition


46.4ms -- 29%

23.2ms -- 31%

11.6ms -- 36%

5.8ms -- 46%

2.9ms -- 64%

2.2ms -- 75%

1.5ms -- Not Available
post edited by OffAnAirplane - 2005/11/12 17:43:10
dorism
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/16 14:32:02
Bought a new PC from www.cube247.com...PC cost just over £1000 for this  
spec!

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400
ATI Radeon xpress 200
Windows XPSP2
2Gig RAM
M-Audio 1010LT (WDM driver)
2x250Gb Baracuda drives (SATA)
Quiet PSU

Results are really impressive :-)

46.4ms 10%
23.2ms 15%
11.6ms 21%
5.8ms 26%
2.9ms 37%
1.5ms 55%
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/16 18:23:13

ORIGINAL: dorism

Bought a new PC from www.cube247.com...PC cost just over £1000 for this  
spec!

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400
ATI Radeon xpress 200
Windows XPSP2
2Gig RAM
M-Audio 1010LT (WDM driver)
2x250Gb Baracuda drives (SATA)
Quiet PSU

Results are really impressive :-)

46.4ms 10%
23.2ms 15%
11.6ms 21%
5.8ms 26%
2.9ms 37%
1.5ms 55%




What version of sonar?
timboe
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/16 20:12:35
Hi Dorism

Your S3 Test results for your X2 4400 are *great* BUT I suspect they could easily be quite a bit better.

Can you advise what memory timings you are using - the settings will be in the BIOS or you can download a great little FREE Windows program called CPUz from here www.cpuid.com/download/cpu-z-131.zip which will tell you what they are.

I suspect that as you are using 2 GB [ presumably 2 x 1GB of DDR ] the timings will be very "loose".

"Loose" memory timings in an A64 system do have a *major* effect on CPU efficiency readings in Sonar using the S3 Test file.

Can you advise what they are ?

Tim
post edited by timboe - 2005/11/16 20:17:17
timboe
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 01:39:59
To highlight the importance of A64 memory timings, see below.

My 2.8 gig A64 at 2/2/2/5 Memory timings

46.4 19
23.2 21
11.6 23-24
5.8 28-29
2.9 35-37
1.5 48-53

My 2.8 gig A64 at 3/4/4/8 Memory timings - *no* other changes to *any* settings of *any* type

46.4 21-22
23.2 23-24
11.6 27-28
5.8 33-35 - %19 higher than memory @ 2/2/2/5
2.9 40-44 - %15 higher than memory @ 2/2/2/5
1.5 54-62 - %15 higher than memory @ 2/2/2/5

As you can see, at the lower latency settings - which is where you ideally want to be - from 5.8ms and down, the difference, just from memory timings *alone* , are huge.

Thats why low latecny memory is *really* important for any DAW.

Tim
pharohoknaughty
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 02:03:32
As you can see, at the lower latency settings - which is where you ideally want to be - from 5.8ms and down, the difference, just from memory timings *alone* , are huge.


Please explain memory timings. Is this an adjustment, or some kind of memory device?
timboe
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 07:38:52
These are the basic / standard Memory settings in your BIOS ie:-

CAS 2
Ras to Cas 2
Ras Pre Charge 2
TRAS 5

Only the highest qualtiy memory can do these timings - it makes a *big* difference to Soanr sub-5.8ms working.

Tim
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 11:48:34

ORIGINAL: timboe


As you can see, at the lower latency settings - which is where you ideally want to be - from 5.8ms and down, the difference, just from memory timings *alone* , are huge.

Thats why low latecny memory is *really* important for any DAW.

Tim


Does the Kingston or Samsung brand have low latency memory?
dorism
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 14:04:39
Hi fejede

it was 4.0.4

cheers
Michael

ORIGINAL: fejede


ORIGINAL: dorism

Bought a new PC from www.cube247.com...PC cost just over £1000 for this  
spec!

AMD Athlon 64 X2 4400
ATI Radeon xpress 200
Windows XPSP2
2Gig RAM
M-Audio 1010LT (WDM driver)
2x250Gb Baracuda drives (SATA)
Quiet PSU

Results are really impressive :-)

46.4ms 10%
23.2ms 15%
11.6ms 21%
5.8ms 26%
2.9ms 37%
1.5ms 55%




What version of sonar?

Lanceindastudio
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 14:09:51
i might be trippin, but i dont see any dual core systems that have been tested. I would like to see some results of a good amd x2 setup. let me know if I am wrong and apologies in advance if i am :)

, Pony Boy
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 19:54:40

ORIGINAL: dorism

Hi fejede

it was 4.0.4

cheers
Michael




Thanks.
fejede
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/17 19:56:06

ORIGINAL: Lanceindastudio

i might be trippin, but i dont see any dual core systems that have been tested. I would like to see some results of a good amd x2 setup. let me know if I am wrong and apologies in advance if i am :)

, Pony Boy



Post 631 is a dual core result......there are others within the last 10 post or so (plus or minus 631)


Regards,
singtall
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/22 19:39:52
athlon 64 300+, gigabyte ga-kns8 ultra 939, 2 gigs dual channel ram, raid striped drives, RME HDSP 9652 soundcard.

46.4ms 33%
23.2ms 37%
11.6ms 46%
5.8ms 63%
2.9ms 96%
1.5ms no chance!

anyone else with this soundcard please email me so we can compare notes and settings and maybe better the numbers.
Chevalier DAour
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/11/23 09:53:41
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
Motherboar Gigabyte K8NS Ultra-939 nVidia Socket 939
Cpu AMD Athlon 64 4000+ 1MB 90nm Rev. E San Diego (939) (Retail Box-w-Fan)
Fan (cpu) ThermalTake Golden Orb II Socket 939 754 775 Copper Core CPU Cooling Fan
Memory 4Gb (4x1Gb) OCZ dual channel platinum (OCZ4002048ELDCPE-K) "Bios memory setting 2-3-2-5"
Video ATI (Connect3D) Radeon 9250 256MB DDR8x-AGPTV-OutDVI (Retail Box)
Power supply OCZ OCZ52012U ModStream ATX 2.0 520W
Hard drive Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250GB 7200 16MB ATA-133 EIDE OEM "Boot OS"
Maxtor DiamondMax 10 250GB 7200 16MB SATA-133 EIDE OEM
Modem US Robotics 5660A 56k V.92 PCI Modem USR5660A
Thermal paste Shin Etsu G765 (SYRINGE) .35 gm Thermal Grease
Fan (case) Aerocool Black UV Frame 120mm Case Fan with 4 LEDs
Vantec Thermalflow 60mm Double Ball Bearing Fan
Cable Floppy Ultra 18 U10-1002-UV-OR
IDE Ultra 18 U10-1000UV-RED
CD LG 52x32x52x GCE-8525B
DVD Dvd LiteOn burner16x4x16x
Floppy Panasonic TC1-6000BL
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Windows xp home sp2 - Sonar 5.0.1 - Motu 2408 mk3 (wdm) - Yamaha 02R (adat+tdif)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
46.4 : 27%
23.2 : 29%
11.6 : 33%
5.8 : 40%
2.9 : 53%
1.5 : 75%
____________________________________________________________________
Michel GC Jones
Studio LuxMundus
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________
post edited by Chevalier DAour - 2005/11/23 17:25:33
danielson
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/12/17 07:00:39
When was the graph at the start of the post last updated??
alswefi_composer
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RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/12/19 19:39:58
hi, i,m a composer from egypt i wish to make sonar the first host in the middle east and asian countries
so our dreams in the next update is...
1-warp time(stretching the tempo grid manually from any point to follow audio or midi events with the ability to snap to the nearest event).

2-draw tool(to draw audio events such as in soundforge,wavelab,cubase and many more

3-the loop construction view(for each slice enable gate,fade,quantize,snap,layring(to make copy,paste,replace,move and remove time or slice)).

4-multi channel loop synth.(can read the acidized files direct from sonar (not only the external rex files) and the ability to export the midi grooves to sonar midi tracks,and also the ability to copy, paste each key to the empty keys to add filters and amp. works for each key, e.g(attack,decay,pan,volume,pitch),and finally the ability to make effect inserts and sends for each channel with the automation.

hint some people prefare to work direct with loops while the others prefare to work with loops modules

5-micro tuner (a midi effect with many presets from the hole world to work with the modules have that abbility like steinberg modules (halion,hypersonic and many more)and try to make the others abble that.

6-general midi arranger(comes as one complex midi effect with many complet styles(intro,variations,fills and end) from the hole world, and the ability to make our styles from midi patterns or real time midi recording.
this arranger comes with a separate drums and instrument sections channels can be activated,linked or not.
this arranger should follow midi events in a midi track and the real time midi recordings with a lift hand changing
style variations by midi keyboard keys,and the ability to hear the styles at stop mode.

7-some effects like vocoders have a midi output,some other hosts reads that automatically,but sonar vst adapter make that manually by enabling as dxi.

8-some vst modules and effects still make errors with the vst adapter and can,t read.

9-some vst modules (like groove agent,broomastick bass ) have input to midi tracks to make the track records their patterns,some other hosts reads that but sonar doesn,t.....!

10-the automation envelops doesn,t appear in the output audio track of a module if we open that module from the synth rack but when we open the module from an audio track insert ,the automations appears.why...?

11-real time audio input bus(to make sonar the best multitrack i have ever seen).

12-the event inspector if we changed the value of some event and if we add anoter events and pounce the midi clips the added events can,t take the same value unless when giving new value and return to the last.

thanks for your patient
mostafa alswefi
composer,computer and sound engineer
EGYPT-CAIRO
MOPILE\0020101866430
www.alswefi_composer2006@yahoo.com
jcschild
Max Output Level: -41 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2005/12/27 20:34:45
HI All,

ok i have posted more than a few times about the up coming Dual Core AMD Laptop. with hopes it would unseat
Intel as the crown holder of laptops

i finally got my paws on one Friday. took until yesterday and today to get some numbers.

Clevo D900K 17" 1920 res
X2 4800
2 Gig DDR 400
60G 7200
80G 7200
RME Fireface 800
Sonar 5 Pro

all numbers are max peaks not an average, average was much lower



Scott Reams Sonar test

256 32%
128 55%
64 83%
48 95%

so yes AMD finally now has the crown for laptops.

Scott
ADK
axe
Max Output Level: -76 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/01/06 12:39:06
Here is my updated system, as you can see I need some more RAM :)
Windows XP Home
Sonar 5.01
ASROCK 939 SATAII MB (BIOS 1.4)
Opteron 165 (standard, not overclocked)
Kingston HyperX PC3200 DDR400 RAM - 512MB (two sticks)
Echo Mia Sound Card
Matrox P650
IBM-DTLA-307030 30GB Drive (Audio Boot)
Seagate Barracuda - ST3160023AS SATA 160GB (Adio Drive)

The CPU meter in Sonar may be useless for Dual Cores as I notice that it seems to read the sum of the two cores ie. Core 0: 5% Core 1: 89% = 94% on Sonar CPU meter.

WDM
1.5 90%
2.9 64%
4.4 54%
5.8 48%
7.3 45%
8.7 42-71% ???
10.7 41-70% ???
... I get what I would erratic readings on all of the lower settings. It is sort of a moot point as it appears that I can comfortably camp on 2.9.


AXE
timboe
Max Output Level: -75 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/01/07 01:31:40
Hi axe

You may want to check out your Sonar 5.0.1 setup. my new DAW and my S3 Test file results in Sonar 5.0.1 are:-

- Gigabyte K8NS Ultra 939
- Zalman 7000A AlCu Sink
- 1 x 120mm case-intake fan
- 1 x 80mm case-exhaust fan
- Topower 420w P/S
- Opteron 165 *AT STOCK* speed
- 2 x Corsair DDR 500 ram
- ram running at 2/2/2/5
- system is fully stable and temperature stead
- M-audio card running .27 drivers in ASIO mode

*64 Bit Engine Turned ON in Sonar 5.0.1*
* Multi-processor support turned ON in Sonar 5.0.1*

Firstly, the stock / non-overclocked results:-

1.5 58 – 60%
2.9 38 – 40%
5.8 29%
11.6 24%
23.2 21%
46.4 19%

Now ….. running the same CPU at 2 x 2.6gig @ 1.500v you get:-

*64 Bit Engine Turned ON in Sonar 5.0.1*
* Multi-processor support turned ON in Sonar 5.0.1*

1.5 39 - 42%
2.9 26 - 27%
5.8 19 - 20%
11.6 15 - 16%
23.2 14%
46.4 12%

I really do think you have a setting somewhere not optimized.

Tim
dorkdog
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/01/12 00:32:45
This 'new updated Sonar Test is for Sonar 3! I realize it was posted a while back, so...

Is there such a test available for Sonar 5 Producer edition? I would love to have a benchmark...

dd
Dale Aston
Max Output Level: -66 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/01/12 10:18:04
I agree. With the new audio 64 bit engine the results should be very different (better I hope).
Blades
Max Output Level: -43 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/01/20 13:13:18
Hey all - I subbed this in another thread...here are my results. I have compiled from two systems, actually - both identical except for CPU and Sound Card. Everything else is the Same

- Asus P5P800 SE
- Zalman 7000A AlCu Sink - adapted for 775 chip
- Antec P180 case for cool and quiet performance
- Antec TruePower 430
- 2 x 1Gb DDR2 = 2Gb Total
- system is fully stable and temperature stead (at idle, about 41 deg C, pushed at about 65 deg C)

The chart shows the hardware diffs for System 1 and System 2

{edit: forgot to mention these are for Sonar 5.0.1 with MS dual core fixes and whatnot}

I hope these results are interesting.

post edited by Blades - 2006/01/20 13:17:15
telebndr
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/01/20 17:01:37
My Results:

AMD X2 4600
AsRock 939 Dual MB
2 ea Kingston KVR400X64C3A/1G Kit DDR 400 PC 3200 running at dual channel
Asus GeForce FX 5200 128 MB AGP video
Western Digital Caviar 40 GB Ultra/ATA 100 system drive
Western Digital Caviar 80 GB Ultra/ATA 100 library drive
Western Digital Caviar 80 GB Ultra/ATA 100 audio drive
HP DVD 640
Antec Sonata II w/ 430 watt ps
Windows XP Professional SP 2 w/out dual-core hotfix
M-Audio Delta 1010

Sonar 4.03, Asio – Multi-processing engine activated:

46.4 ms……….15%
23.2 ms……….17%
11.6 ms……….20%
5.8 ms………...25%
2.9 ms………...34 – 43%
1.5 ms………...54-77%

Multi-processing engine de-activated:

46.4 ms……….27%
23.2 ms………28-31%
11.6 ms………32-36%
5.8 ms………..41-47%
2.9 ms………..55-63%
1.5 ms………..Dropout
dre99gsx
Max Output Level: -90 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/02/01 14:31:43
Just purchased a Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.8 Mobile Celeron w/1Gig ram, 5200rpm 100gig hard drive, using the internal RealTek AC97 audio (with a ASIO4ALL driver).

Sonar Home Studio (4)

46.4msec............11% (asio buffer size 2048 samples)
37.7msec............12% (1664 samples)
29.0msec............12% (1280 samples)
20.3msec............14% (896 samples)
11.6msec............17% (512 samples)
4.4msec..............31% (192 samples)
2.9msec..............40% (128 samples)
1.5ms.................bounces 35%-52%-73% (64 samples)

Oh, and this was on battery power.

*Note, upon loading the sonar file in the first post, I got a few errors stating it could not find some of the plugins. Anyone care to make an updated version of this test file for the current SONAR products??
post edited by dre99gsx - 2006/02/01 14:46:15
Tombo
Max Output Level: -71 dBFS
RE: New, Updated SonarTest 2006/02/01 15:15:45
ORIGINAL: dre99gsx

Just purchased a Toshiba Satellite Laptop 1.8 Mobile Celeron w/1Gig ram, 5200rpm 100gig hard drive, using the internal RealTek AC97 audio (with a ASIO4ALL driver).

Sonar Home Studio (4)

46.4msec............11% (asio buffer size 2048 samples)
37.7msec............12% (1664 samples)
29.0msec............12% (1280 samples)
20.3msec............14% (896 samples)
11.6msec............17% (512 samples)
4.4msec..............31% (192 samples)
2.9msec..............40% (128 samples)
1.5ms.................bounces 35%-52%-73% (64 samples)

Oh, and this was on battery power.

*Note, upon loading the sonar file in the first post, I got a few errors stating it could not find some of the plugins. Anyone care to make an updated version of this test file for the current SONAR products??



Unfortunately, that means your numbers are pretty meaningless—in the context of this study, that is. Without certain of those plugins, my OC'd Opteron 165 Dual core system runs at like 3% at 5ms. LOL. That doesn't help the study though.
post edited by Tombo - 2006/02/01 15:21:49
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