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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/17 16:04:32 (permalink)
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Only had 7 of 9 ARS plugins, so I "had" to pay $30. Still a freakin' excellent deal.

At Waves or every plugin?
EP says that you need the nine plugins to qualify for any discount.
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/17 16:23:00 (permalink)
I was able to upgrade to AB collection for 39 through Koby. I had all but Kings Microphones before the new plug-in. I figured may as well get the set for an extra 9 dollars.
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/17 17:51:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/17 17:52:02
I ended up getting it as well.  The last plug I buy.  I swear.....

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/17 18:58:36 (permalink)
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TheMaartian
Only had 7 of 9 ARS plugins, so I "had" to pay $30. Still a freakin' excellent deal.

At Waves or every plugin?
EP says that you need the nine plugins to qualify for any discount.



Yes you do need all nine. I had only eight. I didn't have AR Chambers. I forgot about that one. So I just went with this one for $30 too.

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/17 18:59:05 (permalink)
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I ended up getting it as well.  The last plug I buy.  I swear.....




Yep, me too!! : )

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/17 19:27:22 (permalink)
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I was able to upgrade to AB collection for 39 through Koby. I had all but Kings Microphones before the new plug-in. I figured may as well get the set for an extra 9 dollars.


It extends all the WUP together too.
I'd say it's a good call for sure.
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/19 12:47:15 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2018/10/20 13:12:08
I have to say, this is REALLY nice...especially
for the price!!!

I did an A/B Comparison on a mix that
I used Ozone 8 A on and it was very comparable
and quite pleasing overall, and O8A was like 20
times the cost!
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/19 13:38:16 (permalink)
cclarry2
I have to say, this is REALLY nice...especially
for the price!!!

I did an A/B Comparison on a mix that
I used Ozone 8 A on and it was very comparable
and quite pleasing overall, and O8A was like 20
times the cost!




Good to hear Larry. I haven't tried it out yet. Looking to do so over the weekend.
 
As far as Ozone, I am still on 7 and may not upgrade to Music Production 8

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/19 13:42:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/19 13:45:22
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I ended up getting it as well.  The last plug I buy.  I swear.....


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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/19 17:11:31 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/19 17:12:54
Did I really need this? Probably not. Did I buy it? Guess.
 
I like that this plugin lets you see what's going on, unlike some others that leave me to guess what's happening under the hood. I like the control and emulations of this old analog gear....and for this price. Why not?
 
 

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/19 19:19:34 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/19 20:13:33
Finger licking.

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 01:26:52 (permalink)
cclarry2
I have to say, this is REALLY nice...especially
for the price!!!

I did an A/B Comparison on a mix that
I used Ozone 8 A on and it was very comparable
and quite pleasing overall, and O8A was like 20
times the cost!


If you already have Ozone, and it's comparable, I wonder why you need this??
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 09:12:57 (permalink)
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cclarry2
I have to say, this is REALLY nice...especially
for the price!!!

I did an A/B Comparison on a mix that
I used Ozone 8 A on and it was very comparable
and quite pleasing overall, and O8A was like 20
times the cost!


If you already have Ozone, and it's comparable, I wonder why you need this??



Because I own all the AR Plugins and it keeps the collection in tact for $25.
Did I need it?  NO.  I don't "need" anything else...I have more than I'll ever
need, that's for sure.  But, the price is definitely right for this.  In fact,
IMO, it's way too low.  Those are words you'll almost never hear me say.
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 12:19:32 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/20 12:29:52
You can say that again, my King.

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 14:50:10 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/20 15:05:51
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cclarry2
I have to say, this is REALLY nice...especially
for the price!!!

I did an A/B Comparison on a mix that
I used Ozone 8 A on and it was very comparable
and quite pleasing overall, and O8A was like 20
times the cost!


If you already have Ozone, and it's comparable, I wonder why you need this??


Is this a sincere question or a barely concealed  judgement of peoples buying habits?
In case this is sincere; some people like more than 1 flavor of ice cream. The Abbey Rd has it's own flavor. The Waves would have to have a more vintage vibe and sound.  
Ozone is a whole load of chains and plugins, this is 1. Maybe it has a work flow people like or connect with. Speed, ease of use.
 
 
 
Lars, you must really like the sound you got for the effort put in cuz I know Ozone 8A is your one, "I can't live without it", software tool.
 

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 14:50:39 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/20 15:05:09
I just got it based on your posts here. 
It sounds awesome. 
Used the discount code at everyPlugin and got it for $30.90.
 
Just tested mastering default settings on a song and it sounds great. 
Really great. 
 
Thanks guys.
 

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 15:08:07 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby galeom 2018/10/20 17:52:27
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Lars, you must really like the sound you got for the effort put in cuz I know Ozone 8A is your one, "I can't live without it", software tool.
 



True that!  If I had to give up EVERYTHING except one plugin, O8A would be the keeper.
It's just an amazing bag of goodies all in one!
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/20 18:48:48 (permalink)
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Is this a sincere question or a barely concealed  judgement of peoples buying habits?
 



 
And your response was first class!!

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/22 01:36:40 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/22 09:31:30
Interesting post over at KVR by paulwr:
“As far as Scheps Omni, which I love... on the master bus I tried various presets and tweaked some too, comparing the TG12410 to Scheps Omni, Ozone 8, and IK TR5 chains...and granted more testing is necessary, these are all big complex multipurpose plugs-ins, results so far... and remember, this is master bus, not instrument channels or groups...

Scheps Omni -not even close, flat compared to richness and depth of sound field with TG12410
Ozone 8 -closer, but TG12410 still better. But O8 is SO DEEP, that with tweaking, I'm sure I can get much much closer, this was limited time.
IK Multimedia, the latest TR5 MAX bundle... I just pulled up a couple of quick presets.... damn if it didn't match or surpass TG... but again, limited time test, mainly presets of both at this point. Minimal tweaking.

Didn't get to the Slate Digital comparison. But man, I'll tell you the TG12410 does have some magic going on. I've spend more time tweaking it for use on an orchestral/jazz 'spy thriller' style cue with high energy. For the crazy low price, it is a worthy and likely valuable add to most anyone's plugin arsenal. I see it making it into my master bus mix chain and mastering chain possibly as well. Gain staging is important on this plugin to kick in the compressor/limiter they way you may want.”

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/22 05:16:07 (permalink)
Can you link Fleer. I've read one discussion, but I didn't see that thread. I tried googling.
 
 
 

 
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/22 13:23:48 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby ZincTrumpet 2018/10/22 13:26:46
Sure, K.
It was @GearSlutz, 23 hours ago by paulwr:
https://www.gearslutz.com...in-8.html#post13584673

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/22 13:47:13 (permalink)
Thanks Fleer, explains why my google trickery was fruitless on KVR
 
I've tried so hard not to jump on so many purchases, even when the proce is small, with bigger purchases in mind being chipped away by these small one. I'm on the fence with this one, I guess I am looking for excuses to loose my balance on this one.
post edited by Kamikaze - 2018/10/22 14:59:26

 
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/22 14:21:01 (permalink)
Yup...awesome plug...awesome price.  Thanks Koby!!
 

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/22 14:58:16 (permalink)
Is there Koby Club too. Waves collection now at just 3
Reading that Gear Slutz after a day a teaching prepositions to grade 1 made my day look much easier
 
This post, and some reading throughout the thread, seems to suggest it would benefit from being part of bigger chain, with you own preference for compressor, and limiter at the end
 

Originally Posted by Antiphones
I've been trying the demo of Abbey Road TG Mastering in a mastering session I'm doing at the moment. I set up a chain of plugins as I usually do. A clean EQ for some surgical cuts, than an Acustica-Audio Magenta EQ (Massive Passive), an Acustica-Audio Sand bus preamp (SSL), and an Acustica-Audio Magenta Compressor (Manley Vary Mu). That chain is one of various typical chains I use. The track was sounding great.

So I copied the audio to another channel and tried just the Abbey Road TG Mastering plugin on it's own to see what it could do. I got the track sounding really good with just the one plugin (which is unusual for me). When I A/B it with the chain above, it sounded good but not as punchy. So I turned off the Abbey Road TG Mastering compressor and copied over the Acustica-Audio Magenta compressor instead. At that point I have to say the Abbey Road TG Mastering was sounding as good. Different of course, but as good in a different way. I have to say I was surprised, very surprised, because almost nothing seems to sound as good as Acustica-Audio for mastering to me.

Re input levels. I always gain stage to around -16 dBfs using a trim before going into any emulation plugin, it's essential to get the intended tone. But I found that by turning up the input control on the Abbey Road TG Mastering plugin (and turning down the output obviously) I got a really nice flavour without it sounding at all crunchy or muddy.

As for the people saying Waves plugins all have a "sound" and that sound is not good. I think you need honestly to deal square on with the fact that almost every top mix engineer out there (including many Grammy Award winners) uses Waves if the mix ITB or hybrid. These are people who have the choice to use anything they want, any plugin, any piece of hardware. And they choose to use Waves (along with other plugins and hardware obviously). So I urge you to honestly ask yourselves, why would this calibre of engineer choose to use Waves so often if they were not great plugins? Do you honestly think your ears are better than all those famous and renowned engineers and the Grammy winners? I would ask you to just think about that for a minute before sounding off.

Anyway I'm pretty impressed with Abbey Road TG Mastering, as others have said, it wouldn't suit all types of music, but it certainly worked on the album I'm mastering at the moment (Electric jazz / prog rock zappaesk style album). For the money, it's a no brainer.
 
Reply PaulWR

I'm having a similar experience here. I'm going to try and keep the compressor in the chain if possible since it seems to play a part in the depth of sound field along with the spreader. But have another compressor also in the chain ala Vari Mu style with a good maximizing limiter at the end such as in Ozone 8 or other. Still much testing to do, but has all been very positive so far.
 
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/23 00:06:04 (permalink)
How does this compare to IK  Lurssen Mastering Console?

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/23 00:12:05 (permalink)
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How does this compare to IK  Lurssen Mastering Console?


IMO....WAY BETTER.  It can almost keep up with O8A...
and THAT is REALLY saying something!
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/23 00:35:22 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/23 01:36:36
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How does this compare to IK  Lurssen Mastering Console?


IMO....WAY BETTER.  It can almost keep up with O8A...
and THAT is REALLY saying something!


...I didn't go to the Lurssen Level on the GB...seems the Waves TG is hard to pass up...damn you Waves!

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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/24 15:47:35 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby cclarry2 2018/10/24 15:59:23
The Collection is on sale right now at Waves.  I upgraded my existing collection to add this plug, used the Soundgrid coupon, and scored the upgrade for $8.82 at Waves.
 
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/24 23:26:56 (permalink)
Anyone having problems with this plugin on Studio One? On my rig 3/4 of GUI is grayed out:(
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Re: New - Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain Plugin 2018/10/25 03:15:09 (permalink)
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Anyone having problems with this plugin on Studio One? On my rig 3/4 of GUI is grayed out:(



So far no problems here. S1 v4. Maybe an issue with some used by it libs?

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