New! celemony ARA interface in future Sonar versions?!?

"ARA" Audio Random Access – a new extension for audio plug-in interfaces and a smoother Melodyne workflow. It's in Studio One v2 now and coming to other daws soon . I would love to see this in Sonar soon.
 
Check out the videos and info here.
 
http://www.celemony.com/cms/index.php?id=ara

I always wondered of they were going to get rid of the transfer process.  I guess now they have.
Cool.

Only problem i see is that version 2 is not out yet, as far as i can tell from Presonus web site.

I have version 1.3 of Essentials, so does that mean it has ARA already? That would be cool, now we just have to wait for DAW developers to catch up.

What the heck; this will get rid of V-Vocal & Audio Snap in one step. But doing this will mash into Roland's territory of Cakewalk.
With Sonar though, expect some crashing and whining if it can be sought out.
But, this is a genius ploy to license their stuff into every DAW market, maybe except Reason.

Looks pretty impressive how much is it for he full version of Studio One v2? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9z3fduz2Nc

They know what they are doing just makes you have confidence in their products.

You cannot even start to compare Meloydme with V-vocal. Chalk and cheese. Meloydne is just incredible for me anyway.

Zo


am i the only one thinking that this is just a V vocal approch but destrutive ....?

You are correct (sort of).
 
Melodyne always had to be transferred in real time before using it,  it looks like they now have it integrated more the way V-Vocal integrates with Sonar. However I don't believe this is any more destructive (of course - I don't know for certain) than V-Vocal based on what I can see. 

timidi


WOW........

I don't see any news on Pre-sonus site. hmm.

Major announcement is tomorrow at Presonus for the new DAW. I'm sure it will all come out then.

timidi


So, does Melodyne come bundled with Studio one? Or, just the ARA technology? I didn't quite understand that.

From my understanding - one of the versions of Studio One will include Melodyne - but no details have been released. Everything is suppose to be unveiled tomorrow.

I know it isnt  %100 absolutely a gap-free-audio-engine in Studio One, but  ..... damn ..... how much smoother than X1c is it - even just from this demo.

I do love X1c  but you get the distinct feeling that someting very big is coming with Studio One  V2.

I'd be amazed if the team behind Studio One, didnt in one fell-swoop catchup with all the other DAW's  [ CW, Logic, Cubase etc.. ]  with their V2.

I know its a fantasy, but imagine everything X1C has and can do  but with an audio engine as smooth / gap-free as Studio One's !!!!!!

Tim

I know its a fantasy, but imagine everything X1C has and can do but with an audio engine as smooth / gap-free as Studio One's !!!!!!

TIm, I don't think it's a fantasy at all.   Gapless Audio has been a standard in Ableton Live and Studio One.   I don't know about Reaper and some others, but I suspect they are gapless (or mostly) as well.

For me - even with X1E, inserting any instrument/synth causes a serious gap;  it's always been that way.   Sonar just isn't gapless, period.

Can it be?  Will it be?   I dunno.  Time will tell, but it seems being gapless is not a priority at CW.

For this ARA to work - I wouldn't be a bit surprised if being gapless is almost a "must", though.

Billy, I have to agree.  I love Sonar, but have been working alot with Studio One.  The new feature set looks pretty impressive.

I have a soft spot for Sonar...I still use it for tracking vocals.  Not sure if this will hold true after the Studio One V2 release.  I have seen you over there as well.....what do you think?

Agreed!

stevec

Each host gives me a different mind-set when I use it and that keeps me on my toes, so to speak.

 
It's not difficult to see where Live fits in when compared to SONAR.    Where does S1 take you?  Just curious...
 
 

Steve,

Probably the best way to describe it is in terms of "feel."   Just like different tempos, different grooves create a different feel to a track, Studio One has its own "feel" as a host.

I happen to love the integrated Mastering in S1.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Sonar follow suit at some point (and I would welcome that).

I will say that with the advent of X1 that Sonar and Studio One have taken on more similarity in the look and feel (there's no doubt in my mind that X1 has a little Studio One design mentality, grin).   But Sonar and Studio One really do "feel" different.

Having a gapless audio engine actually does make a big difference when you're working intensely and trying a mutlitude of sound/synths, etc.  It's easy to like gapless ;)

And while there had been many discussions about the "sound" of the audio in S1 being differrent/better/whatever, I must say there does seem to be something that sounds .... well, different about it (I would say better but that would open up a big can of fanboi worms, wouldn't it? LOL ).

But at the end of the day - Studio One (so far) does NOT have the rich feature set Sonar has had for a long time.  That's one reason S1 was my #3 host and not #1.  

Live, on the other hand, as you already imagine, really does have a fairly different paradigm as a host and one can (or at least should be able to) see how it fits differently and therefor provides a different mind set easily.