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New family member (not a cat!)
She's a mix of Pit Bull Terrier and Dachshund (talk about odd couples)... We stopped by Animal Foundation this pm and it was love at first sight. I wanted a German Shepherd or a Doberman, but we couldn't resist this little girl (she's 10 weeks). I missed having a dog, you have no idea... And this one is adorable, she follows me everywhere and waits for me at the bottom of the stairs. For those of you keeping count, that's 7 cats, 1 bearded dragon, 1 hedgehog, 2 sugar gliders, 2 mice. And now, 1 dog. :) This should pretty much be it for our private "petting zoo", except maybe for a snake...
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/15 15:25:04
Hard to resist for sure. Dachshund mixes are great, they always look unique. One of our clients is a dachshund/lab mix and he's basically a huge fat chunky lab but with little bitty dachshund legs. You'll have her climbing those stairs in no time...it's going down them that takes a little more time!
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/14 21:20:57
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You'll have to teach at least one of them to "play the piano" and two or three others to "play cards". Who knows? After a while you might be rivaling the crowds at your wife's cirque shows:-)
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/14 23:27:44
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/15 04:14:29
Never stop at the Animal Foundation, because you'll never come home empty handed. After many years surrounded by pets, I am having a rest, I steer clear of places like that, because I know what will happen. I still however get caught by injured or sick animals I may find, baby birds fallen out of trees etc etc, but nowdays I take them to animal carers, and only do the job myself if it is a last resort, just rescued a Kookabura on Thursday. One of the main reasons I don't read news papers anymore is because of the frequent stories about animal abuse and some #*^@ heads killing or torturing someones beloved pet. It just makes me want to get a baseball bat and track them down and perform vengeance on behalf of the poor defenseless animal. God I hate this world and those who sail in her sometimes.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 01:45:12
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/15 15:25:11
Nice Rain. Rain I missed having a dog, you have no idea...
I know exactly what you mean. My wife and I have had a dog in the house since we met thirty years ago. When our previous dog passed, we said, "never again," because it was so upsetting losing them. We went for two years without a dog but then we decided that it wasn't the same, not having a dog around. We visited our local dog rescue centre and came back with this Hairy Mutt:-
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 02:21:52
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synkrotron we said, "never again," because it was so upsetting losing them.
Me to, I don't want that experience again
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 05:32:59
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 15:01:54
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I pet myself.... Ooooops wrong fred, errrrrmmmmm I mean wrong forum.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 15:22:59
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She's a good girl. We put her in her cage in our room for the night. I was expecting not to get much sleep but she slept all the way through and didn't make a noise all night. We call her Astrid. Meaning that I get to call her just about any name that starts w/ an "A" (those of you who've watched Fringe will get the reference.) The cats are gradually getting used to her, some faster than others. Sharke - you were right! Climbing up the stairs didn't take long, even though she needs a good incentive and a bit of time. But she won't go down on her own.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 15:41:42
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Hi, I had a bird, then a pair of birds ... and no pets since ... I loved my birdie ... he used to perch on my shoulder while I piddled at the computer and play with my ear. He was a great singer ... and you could whistle and he would harmonize!
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/15 15:43:42
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If you had one for each shoulder, you could have had stereo! Then one on top of your head for four-part harmony? Man, I'd hate to see the back of your shirt by then though...
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/20 23:49:33
Rain, if they all get loose one day it will look like a Dr. Zeus book. My one cat is all I can deal with.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/16 18:38:20
I taught this little guy (Basil) to run down stairs the other day... He would not go down, only up. It's pretty understandable - going downstairs is basically an exercise in controlled falling, and a downward angle feels less natural for a dog than an upwards angle. The reason why they whimper when trying to go down steps is that they just can't imagine doing it without falling. So to get them used to the feeling of traveling downwards, you can support them with a harness and "hover" them down the steps. Obviously you couldn't do this with the leash attached to the collar. They're going to freak out a little for the first couple of steps (they may yelp), but after that they kind of figure out that it's just like running only downwards. Only you're lifting them a little so their paws just skim the steps. Doing this 2 or 3 times is usually all it takes to build their confidence to the point where they're running down steps of their own accord. It's advisable to keep them strongly supported at first though because they might still have the odd mishap and fall, which is fine as long as you're ready to lift them up a little so they don't bang themselves. Did this the other day with Basil and after a couple of supported runs he was scampering down on his own. He was so freaking pleased with himself that every time we passed a brownstone with steps, he would run up and down them. Now it takes us 15 minutes to walk a block because he wants to play on every staircase.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/16 00:16:28
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My roommate's Boston Terrier has NO problems hauling ass down the stairs (or up). Man is he fast!
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/20 16:48:56
Congrats Rain! It's a great feeling isn't it? She's adorable! I share the same feelings as Andy and Jeff. The feeling you get when you lose them is just unbearable and something I never wanted to go through again. Being an only child, my dogs were my brothers. I was devastated when I lost the last one. I've been dog-less since 1988......until one day, I met this girl and well....she was an animal person and, well, you know how it is when you meet a good girl and she melts your heart. :) My girl does wolf rescue and at any given time, she has anywhere from 1-6 wolves on the property. She even takes in the nasty ones and trains them. She's pretty amazing. I'll share a pic in a sec... So she talks me into at least looking at dogs. Before she moved in with me, she had loads of animals. I of course wanted 0 because my heart just can't take losing them as I mentioned before. So we went to shelters and puppy stores....I made up my mind if one of them made an impression that I would seriously consider it. We saw this little dog at this place and he was just amazing. So much so I couldn't stop thinking about him. Thinking he was probably gone, I didn't call back to see if he was still there. Heck, I can't be cleaning poo and pee all day....I got a business to run. A few more days went by and I still couldn't get this little dogg off my mind. So I called and they said "you mean the one that looks like a little monkey, yeah he's here still". So I bought him. His name is Chewy and he's a "Shorkie". :) So there I was cleaning poo and pee for about a month. LOL! I got this little boy trained and good to go now though! This is a recent pic of him right from the groomer. 10 months go by, my girl starts talking about another dog....a big one. I'm like "look, we got one...I'm just starting to trust him out of the cage...I need a break from this dog training and dog bay sitting stuff!" She says "c'mon, just think how cool it would be to get a huge dog and have the little one." After looking at loads of big dogs, I made up my mind that I wasn't going to get one and if I did, it better not shed or slobber. A few weeks went by...we stop at the same place where we bought Chewy. There's 5 Rottie puppies. They all looked good but this one looked exceptional. BUT...he didn't seem like he wanted to be bothered. He went to no one....he just kept to himself. The next day (my girl drives a roll-off truck....one of those big dumpster trucks...yeah I know, weird job for a girl but man, she does well and is highly respected in her field.) she calls me and tells me the load she picked up was a concrete disaster and the truck was tipping over side-ways. So after listening to her go off for like 10 minutes, she sends me a pic and man....it's scary looking! Well, the softy that I am, I figured this would be a good day to surprise her with a dog. I go back to the store where the Rottie was, he was the only one left. Now, the last time I was there, I just looked at him....I didn't call him or anything. So this time, there are people all around him calling him...a few really hot girls too...you know dogs always run to them. LOL! This one didn't move. So I walk up and say "do you wanna go home with me?" I got the word "me" out and he nearly jumped out of the pen and into my arms licking me like mad. I looked at the girls and the girls at the counter and said "I guess that's a yes...wrap him up." (he was 4 months old at the time and about 30 lbs) At 5 months old now, "Goliath" is over 50lbs already. He eats like an elephant and poo's like one! But he's one of the coolest dogs ever! I had him potty trained in less than 2 weeks and he's already responding to commands 90% of the time. He's about 40 lbs in this pic and Chewy needs a hair cut...but you get the idea. :) As promised, here's a wolf my girl worked with. His name is Samson and he was in a few movies as well as "The Sorcerer's Apprentice". He's one of the biggest wolves (he's not full wolf) on the east coast. Look at his head...then look at our heads. Then look at his feet and look at our hands. This pic does him no justice...he's really intimidating in person. I was afraid to lose a hand. Anyway, just thought I'd share some dog stuff with you. I wish you all the best with your new baby. Also, and this is important....do yourself a favor and get an insurance plan. I have them for both of my dogs. They pay 90% of everything other than regular check ups. Pet Plan is who I went with. One trip to the vet for something can cost big bucks. Definitely consider it....it's totally worth it in my opinion. They have 3 different plans....you don't have to take the 90% one. Best of luck and enjoy! The two I have made our lives so much more enjoyable. Though I'm still scared to lose them, I'd rather love and enjoy the love instead of missing out on the love and fun we're having right now. :) -Danny
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/20 16:41:14
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I know what you guys mean when it comes to loss. In fact, for over 10 years, I refused to adopt animals after having had to have my cat put down. Then one day (actually, that was exactly 9 years ago yesterday), as my then girlfriend was heading out for her appointment at the hairdresser salon, she asked me if I needed her to pick up anything on the way, to which I jokingly replied: one black kitten and one grey kitten. Turns out that the good folks there had just rescued a couple of kittens from the alley behind the salon and kept them in a box in the corner, while they were desperately trying to find people to take care of them. They were merely a few weeks old. So she came back with exactly what I'd requested. :) And now, since my wife and I have decided not to have children, we figured out that we might as well go as pet crazy as we want to and share our life with a bunch furry companions. Danny: Man, your lovely lady does indeed seem to be an amazing person. Saving wolves? That was sort of an impossible dream of mine when I was a kid. I had a fascination for wolves. That's a very noble mission! And as you say, at this point, though it'll break my heart when they go (especially my cat Googlie, I can't imagine life without her), I wouldn't want to miss out on all that they bring into my life and all the love they give. Astrid is doing pretty fine for a young puppy - most of the time. She's a very intelligent dog. She already does most of her business outside, or on the training pad. There's room for improvement as she does leave tiny spots on the floor every now and then. Looks like she's not 100% in control yet. But she's doing surprisingly good. She does have a tendency to chew and destroy things - like the training pads, but we will also get that under control with training. She still spends every night in her cage and doesn't complain much at all. I did spend quite a bit of time with her for the last few days but I need to get my ass back to studio work today, so she'll spend a bit more time in her cage. As for the rest, it seems that there's nothing she likes more than when we let her sleep in the bed. So anytime we watch series on TV or anytime I read a book, she just sleeps there with us for hours. She's surprisingly well behaved and quiet, most of the time, and likes to sleep with her head on my lap. Compared to a cat, she does require a lot of attention, but then, the interaction is entirely different. Those dogs of yours look terrific Danny! How I wish I could adopt a Rottweiler! But I guess that little Astrid is a better option for us at this time, with the rest of our menagerie, and our cats with special needs. Takes a good chunk of time to take care of all those guys and give every one their daily does of attention. We spend at least an hour every night when my wife comes back from work preparing meals, feeding, playing with/walking everyone... And that does not include all the time I spend cleaning litters and picking up stuff and taking care of them during the day. In terms of insurance, we're all covered for cats - with older cats and special need ones, it just didn't make sense to go without - and my wife has been shopping around for the dog for the last couple of days, creating excel lists, compiling, comparing. She's a master organizer. We should be able to pick the best one for our needs w/in a couple of days.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/20 23:52:29
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Lovin' this cutesy dog (okay, and cat too I suppose) topic
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/21 00:32:05
As long as the dogs are all coming out, meet Corbin!  My roommate's Boston Terror Terrier, but I'm his favorite play toy. Sometimes he makes it a tad difficult to get computer work done...
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
2015/08/21 00:29:05
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I seem to have jinxed it today. :/ I take her out and she seems to understand that that's where solid business is done. But I can't seem to get her to release liquid. But the minute we walk in, she just let it all out. That's 3 times today, and not once did she use that pad. Oh well, we all have bad days I suppose.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/21 17:01:14
Rain, I've been successful with a few commands. I have a client at the moment (he's getting coffee) but I will share a few things with you if you want me to? I still have to respond to your other message. Talk soon.
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/22 23:15:41
Rain She's a mix of Pit Bull Terrier and Dachshund (talk about odd couples)... We stopped by Animal Foundation this pm and it was love at first sight. I wanted a German Shepherd or a Doberman, but we couldn't resist this little girl (she's 10 weeks).

 I missed having a dog, you have no idea... And this one is adorable, she follows me everywhere and waits for me at the bottom of the stairs. For those of you keeping count, that's 7 cats, 1 bearded dragon, 1 hedgehog, 2 sugar gliders, 2 mice. And now, 1 dog. :) This should pretty much be it for our private "petting zoo", except maybe for a snake...
TT... Tiny Terror!! Congrats, sorry I didn't look at this earlier. Rain, my main... you need to get a baby. I know it would crimp your wife's work but only for about 6 or 8 months... and believe me, no matter what you have heard... the benefits far outweigh the cost and trouble. You'll likely get grand children in the deal and let me tell you, when you get older there is NOTHING that will replace grand children, your kids... eh, they will move out one day but the grandkids are what it is all about. Don't wait too long and don't give me any excuses. I've never met you face to face but I consider you to be a friend of mine! I hope I am not being presumptuous. but well... yeah, it's worth all the risk and all the reasons not to are lame. Cute puppy!! My cat would either kill it or pack her bags... or become psychotic. Wait, all cats are psychotic aren't they? LOL? I bet when it grows up it will be an Ankle Biter El Supreamo!!! You da man Rain! J
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Re: New family member (not a cat!)
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/22 23:17:41
Rain I know what you guys mean when it comes to loss. In fact, for over 10 years, I refused to adopt animals after having had to have my cat put down. Then one day (actually, that was exactly 9 years ago yesterday), as my then girlfriend was heading out for her appointment at the hairdresser salon, she asked me if I needed her to pick up anything on the way, to which I jokingly replied: one black kitten and one grey kitten. Turns out that the good folks there had just rescued a couple of kittens from the alley behind the salon and kept them in a box in the corner, while they were desperately trying to find people to take care of them. They were merely a few weeks old.
 So she came back with exactly what I'd requested. :) And now, since my wife and I have decided not to have children, we figured out that we might as well go as pet crazy as we want to and share our life with a bunch furry companions. Danny: Man, your lovely lady does indeed seem to be an amazing person. Saving wolves? That was sort of an impossible dream of mine when I was a kid. I had a fascination for wolves. That's a very noble mission! And as you say, at this point, though it'll break my heart when they go (especially my cat Googlie, I can't imagine life without her), I wouldn't want to miss out on all that they bring into my life and all the love they give. Astrid is doing pretty fine for a young puppy - most of the time. She's a very intelligent dog. She already does most of her business outside, or on the training pad. There's room for improvement as she does leave tiny spots on the floor every now and then. Looks like she's not 100% in control yet. But she's doing surprisingly good. She does have a tendency to chew and destroy things - like the training pads, but we will also get that under control with training. She still spends every night in her cage and doesn't complain much at all. I did spend quite a bit of time with her for the last few days but I need to get my ass back to studio work today, so she'll spend a bit more time in her cage. As for the rest, it seems that there's nothing she likes more than when we let her sleep in the bed. So anytime we watch series on TV or anytime I read a book, she just sleeps there with us for hours. She's surprisingly well behaved and quiet, most of the time, and likes to sleep with her head on my lap.
 Compared to a cat, she does require a lot of attention, but then, the interaction is entirely different. Those dogs of yours look terrific Danny! How I wish I could adopt a Rottweiler! But I guess that little Astrid is a better option for us at this time, with the rest of our menagerie, and our cats with special needs. Takes a good chunk of time to take care of all those guys and give every one their daily does of attention. We spend at least an hour every night when my wife comes back from work preparing meals, feeding, playing with/walking everyone... And that does not include all the time I spend cleaning litters and picking up stuff and taking care of them during the day. In terms of insurance, we're all covered for cats - with older cats and special need ones, it just didn't make sense to go without - and my wife has been shopping around for the dog for the last couple of days, creating excel lists, compiling, comparing. She's a master organizer. We should be able to pick the best one for our needs w/in a couple of days. We're fighting with the no children thing too. Might be too late...tell ya next week. LOL! Astrid is a great name...and she looks perfect for you guys. Great kitten story, thanks for sharing! As for training, you have to spend as much time as possible....while trying to break things up in 15 minute increments. With dogs, think of it like practicing guitar scales. Repetition and memory. When my dogs go outside, I say "who wants to go outside" and then keep saying "outside". Once outside, I say "go pee pees" over and over again and when they do, you have to make a big deal out of it. Pet while saying "good boy/girl" and even give them a treat so they can associate that it's good to relieve themselves outside. Now when I say "outside" they both go the door and when we get out and I say "go pee pees" they do it on command 9 out of 10 times. they just get it after a while. I've never had to say "go poopies" or anything....they just know that anything that comes out of them needs to come out outside. Chewy, the little one....is so conscious of this that if he throws up in the house, he's sick thinking he's going to get a beaten. I have to tell him it's ok and that him throwing up is not a bad thing and that I know he didn't mean it while petting him. Now, if you catch them in the act, you HAVE to nip it in the bud, Rain or they will walk all over you. I came from the school of "no hitting" but guess what, nothing else works. So....here's the new plan. Roll up a newspaper. The sound of that sticks in their mind. When they are bad, if you hit them a few times with the paper (this also stops you from putting force on their butt/hip with your hand...paper is a lot softer and just stings) just rolling it up usually makes them stop in their tracks without saying a word. But when you catch them, I always make them smell it without touching their nose in it and say "outside" loud and forceful. Then you pick them up and take them outside to the place where you want them to relieve themselves and say "pee pees" or "go potty". They have to associate that or nothing will ever change. When you don't catch them in the act, you don't hit them because they may not know why they are being corrected. In that situation, put their nose close to it...say "outside" and bring them out where you want them to go. Another thing to remember, they need your support and understanding at first. Don't ever just let her out in the yard without you. Two reasons... 1. If you have hawks or any big birds of prey around, they WILL snatch her up and take her....I promise you. 2. Walk her to the place you want her to relieve herself. This allows her to associate that spot for potty time as well as keeping it in one general area so you're not cleaning up your yard like mad. Wee wee pads: None of my dogs have ever used them. Put one near the door where you let her out just in case she goes near the door and you don't see her, she may leave you a present there. That's what mine do if I don't see that they went down the steps. I have stair that go into my entry to my house. Normally the dogs wait at the top when they have to go out...but if they wait too long, they literally go down the stairs to the door. If I don't see that, I could have some goodies waiting for me. But...even so, they have associated the door with going out. The wee wee pads do nothing but make the dog eat them in my opinion. If you get scented ones, they will really eat them. I kept them around in case I saw one start to do something....then I could grab the pad and run it under the dog. I always kept one in my living room, one in the kitchen, one in the bathroom...you get the idea. They won't use them but it may stop something from getting on your carpet if you react in time. :) Crate training: Be careful with this. A lot of people use the crate for punishment. Try to avoid that or the dog will hate it and will never gravitate to it. Yeah, I get enough of mine too and throw them in the crate from time to time, but mine walk in without me saying a word. This is what you want. Always leave the cage door open so she can go in or out at will. I have mine loaded with blankets, pillows, dog bed and toys. If she chews the bedding, remove it as punishment. Any time she chews a pillow or a pet bed, remove it. She'll control that when she feels the plastic shelf in the cage. My Goliath lasted 3 days on the cage plastic shelf because he ate a $40 bed I bought him. Now days, our cages are always open and the dogs go in there by themselves. It's their little safe haven. To get them to like the cages, you only put them in when you have to work or when it is time for bed. Each time before you put them in the cage, say something or just tap the cage and say "get in" or what worked for us "night night". I always put my radio on for my dogs when they are in the cage with the doors shut. These days, I tap the cage when it's time for them to get in and they run right in. You can give a small treat after if need be. There are several things you can try, but bribing is always good. You will stop eventually and they will forget you used to give them treats for doing common things. So try some of this stuff out and see how you fair. Some dogs are faster than others. Chewy took about 5 months to be totally potty trained to where I could trust him. I worked really hard with him. Shorkies (half Shih Tzu, half Yorkie) are VERY stubborn and set in their ways. So as smart as that little guy is, he's a rebel. LOL! Goliath was potty trained to point of trust in less than 2 weeks. Big difference. I've only had the Rottie about a month. But all the same things I did with Chewy, I did with him. One last thing....whatever command you decide on for them to go potty, never say it in your house. LOL! When I tell you they literally go on command, I'm dead serious. Dogs need repetition and short words....keep at it and you should see improvements in about 2 weeks. Good luck....and let me know if I can help with anything. :) -Danny
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☄ Helpfulby Rain 2015/08/22 23:17:32
I have a child. If you think a dog fills the hole in your heart stick with that plan. Kids are really expensive and take over what was your life. Parenthood is not for all and there is no need to feel bad about giving it a pass. You need a license for a car, a boat or a dog to be sure you'll be responsible. Why we don't need a license for kids is beyond me because there are many people that shouldn't go there.
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craigb If you had one for each shoulder, you could have had stereo! Then one on top of your head for four-part harmony? Man, I'd hate to see the back of your shirt by then though... 
Never, once, in 4 years, did Birdie leave anything on my shoulder! Uncanny! but he knew. Saddest thing ever, since I always left the cage open and he could fly around ... one night before I went to bed, turned out the light and such, he flew to me, and made himself right at home next to my shoulder. I kept him there for a while and I was afraid of squishing him, so after a few minutes, I put him back in the cage on his little perch. In the morning he was dead! You should have seen my conducting the pigeons and those seabirds at the Seattle Center! With a couple loaves of bread!
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Danny Danzi We're fighting with the no children thing too. Might be too late...tell ya next week. LOL! Astrid is a great name...and she looks perfect for you guys. Great kitten story, thanks for sharing! As for training, you have to spend as much time as possible....while trying to break things up in 15 minute increments. With dogs, think of it like practicing guitar scales. Repetition and memory. When my dogs go outside, I say "who wants to go outside" and then keep saying "outside". Once outside, I say "go pee pees" over and over again and when they do, you have to make a big deal out of it. Pet while saying "good boy/girl" and even give them a treat so they can associate that it's good to relieve themselves outside. Now when I say "outside" they both go the door and when we get out and I say "go pee pees" they do it on command 9 out of 10 times. they just get it after a while. I've never had to say "go poopies" or anything....they just know that anything that comes out of them needs to come out outside. Chewy, the little one....is so conscious of this that if he throws up in the house, he's sick thinking he's going to get a beaten. I have to tell him it's ok and that him throwing up is not a bad thing and that I know he didn't mean it while petting him. Now, if you catch them in the act, you HAVE to nip it in the bud, Rain or they will walk all over you. I came from the school of "no hitting" but guess what, nothing else works. So....here's the new plan. Roll up a newspaper. The sound of that sticks in their mind. When they are bad, if you hit them a few times with the paper (this also stops you from putting force on their butt/hip with your hand...paper is a lot softer and just stings) just rolling it up usually makes them stop in their tracks without saying a word. But when you catch them, I always make them smell it without touching their nose in it and say "outside" loud and forceful. Then you pick them up and take them outside to the place where you want them to relieve themselves and say "pee pees" or "go potty". They have to associate that or nothing will ever change. When you don't catch them in the act, you don't hit them because they may not know why they are being corrected. In that situation, put their nose close to it...say "outside" and bring them out where you want them to go. Another thing to remember, they need your support and understanding at first. Don't ever just let her out in the yard without you. Two reasons... 1. If you have hawks or any big birds of prey around, they WILL snatch her up and take her....I promise you. 2. Walk her to the place you want her to relieve herself. This allows her to associate that spot for potty time as well as keeping it in one general area so you're not cleaning up your yard like mad. Wee wee pads: None of my dogs have ever used them. Put one near the door where you let her out just in case she goes near the door and you don't see her, she may leave you a present there. That's what mine do if I don't see that they went down the steps. I have stair that go into my entry to my house. Normally the dogs wait at the top when they have to go out...but if they wait too long, they literally go down the stairs to the door. If I don't see that, I could have some goodies waiting for me. But...even so, they have associated the door with going out. The wee wee pads do nothing but make the dog eat them in my opinion. If you get scented ones, they will really eat them. I kept them around in case I saw one start to do something....then I could grab the pad and run it under the dog. I always kept one in my living room, one in the kitchen, one in the bathroom...you get the idea. They won't use them but it may stop something from getting on your carpet if you react in time. :) Crate training: Be careful with this. A lot of people use the crate for punishment. Try to avoid that or the dog will hate it and will never gravitate to it. Yeah, I get enough of mine too and throw them in the crate from time to time, but mine walk in without me saying a word. This is what you want. Always leave the cage door open so she can go in or out at will. I have mine loaded with blankets, pillows, dog bed and toys. If she chews the bedding, remove it as punishment. Any time she chews a pillow or a pet bed, remove it. She'll control that when she feels the plastic shelf in the cage. My Goliath lasted 3 days on the cage plastic shelf because he ate a $40 bed I bought him. Now days, our cages are always open and the dogs go in there by themselves. It's their little safe haven. To get them to like the cages, you only put them in when you have to work or when it is time for bed. Each time before you put them in the cage, say something or just tap the cage and say "get in" or what worked for us "night night". I always put my radio on for my dogs when they are in the cage with the doors shut. These days, I tap the cage when it's time for them to get in and they run right in. You can give a small treat after if need be. There are several things you can try, but bribing is always good. You will stop eventually and they will forget you used to give them treats for doing common things. So try some of this stuff out and see how you fair. Some dogs are faster than others. Chewy took about 5 months to be totally potty trained to where I could trust him. I worked really hard with him. Shorkies (half Shih Tzu, half Yorkie) are VERY stubborn and set in their ways. So as smart as that little guy is, he's a rebel. LOL! Goliath was potty trained to point of trust in less than 2 weeks. Big difference. I've only had the Rottie about a month. But all the same things I did with Chewy, I did with him. One last thing....whatever command you decide on for them to go potty, never say it in your house. LOL! When I tell you they literally go on command, I'm dead serious. Dogs need repetition and short words....keep at it and you should see improvements in about 2 weeks. Good luck....and let me know if I can help with anything. :) -Danny
Lots of great tips there! Actually, I also notice that we came to apply a lot of them instinctively (and also because, my wife being the definition of dedication' she's ordered and read a bunch off books on the topic of dog training). It's odd though to have to train a dog in our second language - you mention the word "outside" and that's definitely one we will integrate to her training - yet, for whatever reason, I hadn't realized it could be such a key word. I also do lots of positive reinforcement ("good girl", treats), and I try not to associate the cage with the idea of punishment. But you gave me lots of additional ideas of things to try. Thanks a bunch for that! Today, she's been pretty good. No accident so far. We're trying to establish a routine, identifying key moments when she may need to go. But she is very intelligent. I can take her out in the backyard w/o a leash, and she never venture away for long, she's constantly coming back to us, and obeys pretty well. Actually, we've already seen good results at fetching and sitting. She's a great dog. :)
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Dogs have a way of winning our hearts quickly. We started fostering this baby.... and before long we realized she was meant to live with us. Her name is Lilly and I introduced her and told her story on how she came to be with us some time back. Now... over a year and lots of love and training later...... She's an amazing family member. So well behaved and now.... she's started training to be a SAR (search & rescue) team member with me. In fact..... she just came bounding up the steps to the studio/office to let me know it's time to get off my posterior side and get dressed so we can go run a few miles..... so... my fitness coach has spoken and I must obey..... Rescue dogs rock.
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My aunt had a dog. We found him at a garbage dump one summer. Every night at 10:00 he would go to the closet and get her shoes. While my aunt put on her shoes, he would get his leash and bring to her. It was uncanny how they came to know each others habits, just like an old married couple.
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