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2014/02/20 12:25:11 (permalink)

New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant

A large amount of radioactive water has leaked from a holding tank at Japan's troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant, its operator said Thursday.
The leak of an estimated 100 metric tons of highly contaminated water was discovered late Wednesday, Tokyo Electric Power Company (TEPCO) said in a statement.
The company has struggled to manage the vast amounts of radioactive water, with a number of leaks reported last year.

The leak reported Thursday is one of the largest since TEPCO reported last summer that about 300 tons of radioactive water had leaked from a tank.
 
 
 
these guys CLEARLY do not know what they are doing,
and are incapable of dealing with the situation they created with poor design.
 
wow.
 
why don't we build a nuke plant down at green river near moab?
in the middle of a desert?
doesn't that sound like a good idea?

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/20 13:14:02 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby jbow 2014/03/01 20:12:10
In related news, a new, water-based, energy drink is introduced by Japanese investors... 

 
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/20 13:37:53 (permalink)
i don't think nuke energy translates into the new 'have you got it in you' catchphrase.
 

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/20 14:38:01 (permalink)
But they claim it's a "Power" drink... 

 
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/20 14:59:13 (permalink)
We're going to keep it up until we waste ourselves or mother earth shakes us off like a bad dream.
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/20 17:43:07 (permalink)
for me, it kind of ties into this story:
 
 
Judge approves nuclear power plant in Utah
A judge has cleared the way for a nuclear power plant to be built in Utah, with conditions.
“The court finds that there is reason to believe that the project will not be detrimental to the public welfare,” Judge George Harmond said in a ruling issued late Wednesday
November 27, 2013

nuke plants need water.
Utah is the second driest state in the nation with a population slated to double in the next 40 years.
The Utah Geological Survey stated that Utah has over 1,000 earthquakes a day....
que Fukushima.
Downriver, of course, are the jewels of America’s national park system, Canyonlands and the Grand Canyon.
What if there were a release of radioactivity, even a minor one, into the Green River?

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/20 21:08:47 (permalink)
That's easy ... we would simply rename it the Iridescent Green River.

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/21 11:11:31 (permalink)
or "River of Doom"
 
that has a nice ring to it.
 
they can film 'game of thrones' there

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/21 11:21:33 (permalink)
Names may have something to do with it after the fact but
with a name like Fuk us hima it must not mean a thing on the front end.
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/21 12:08:24 (permalink)
LOL 

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/21 12:24:21 (permalink)
Note to self- Don't buy Pacific seafood. Might also be a good time to get one of those geiger counters.

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/21 13:43:44 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby craigb 2014/02/22 01:00:19
Personally, I'm disappointed there hasn't been a single 100-foot fire-breathing lizard sighted yet.


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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/22 01:04:16 (permalink)

 


 
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/27 00:33:48 (permalink)
In the opinion of one who has seen past the stainless steel and zirconium deep into the pile at PUR-1...and who has been watching close since 3/11...
 
1. I have no reason to believe in core, primary, or secondary containment integrity since day 2, F1,  units 1-3. That doesn't mean all the scary stuff got loose, or that none did, it means that some did, and it ain't goin away anytime soon.
 
2.I have no reason to believe in SFP containment or rod integrity, units 1-6. Scary enough but 3 costs me sleep, MOX means P-239, scary as it gets, till you add in ancilliaries and byproducts, and they're in play too.
 
3. You get water hot enough, you can dissociate H2, but not enough to launch that much steel reinforced concrete that far. To do that, you have to heat Zirconium past 2300, in the presence of H2O. Figure it out.
 
4. HEU won't go supercrit, but P239 might, very long shot. Both will go crit in the right config and that'll spew just fine.
 
5. TEPCO lies.
 
6. Japanese politicians lie.
 
7. Mainstream Japanese media lie.
 
8. Best I got says the corium ate half a meter of the CV, out of 6-8 meters plus, BUT...there's cracks or other fails in the PV, CV, and secondary, cuz there's Sievert level hotspots out past the 30 km evac zone. Only one way that happens, core fuel outside.
 
9. I'm done w seafood.
 
10. West coast oughta be eating stable iodine, and watchin close.
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/27 00:52:40 (permalink)
If you know enough to understand the above, or care enough to look up a couple terms, then you have a good chance of understanding My Opinion to the point of balance tween over and under reaction.
 
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/27 02:14:51 (permalink)
I'm still waiting for Fukushima to become a verb/adjective.
 
As in, "...a three-eyed lobster? That is so fukushima'd, dude!".
 
As in, "Hands behind your back, Mr. Bieber, you can't drive when you are that fukushima'd"
 
As in, "All you graduates have so many opportunities ahead of you. Now don't fukushima it up."
 
Or just a general expression of frustration: bass player to drummer - "Fukushima! Can't you follow a friggin' click?" drummer to bass player - "Fukushima yourself! Is Am the only key you know?" 
 


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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/27 02:19:00 (permalink)
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If you know enough to understand the above, or care enough to look up a couple terms, then you have a good chance of understanding My Opinion to the point of balance tween over and under reaction.
 
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I tried to process it all on your system, but that only provided enough radiation to cook a burrito... 
 

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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/27 02:20:34 (permalink)
Actually this gives the term "Three-mile island" a whole new meaning, ya?
 

 
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/02/28 16:10:35 (permalink)
Comparing Mr. Bieber to a three eyed lobster isn't fair to the lobster.
 
"You're no ghost, you're just an undercooked bit of" burrito.
 
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/03/01 20:17:38 (permalink)
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/03/02 08:32:24 (permalink)
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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/03/10 18:07:37 (permalink)
Here is a fun article about the NRC ...
 
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/fukushima-anniversary/u-s-nuclear-agency-hid-concerns-hailed-safety-record-fukushima-n48561
 
and here is my favorite quote ... an e-mail excerpt from a senior NRC engineer:
 

From: Rudland, David
Date: Friday, March 11, 2011, 10:54 AM
No, at this point all we know is that they are struggling to shut down the plant.
 
We all need to say a prayer.…


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Re: New radioactive water leak at Japan's Fukushima Daiichi plant 2014/03/11 09:18:06 (permalink)
batsbrew ...
The leak reported Thursday is one of the largest since TEPCO reported last summer that about 300 tons of radioactive water had leaked from a tank.
...
these guys CLEARLY do not know what they are doing, and are incapable of dealing with the situation they created with poor design.
...

I think this is unfair, to the people that will be losing their lives in the radiation trying to save it for all of us.
 
The situation in that thing was ridiculously bad, and they are having to make choices that are difficult, in order to prevent anything, including a total meltdown that would probably render the whole area done for about 100k or more years!
 
It is a very difficult situation and I'm not sure that they can prevent some leaks, and they probably will have to leak some, in order to relieve pressures now and then, or it would be worse!
 
The bad "design" is a 2nd guess best armchair quarterback situation. However, I don't think that anyone would consider that a tsunami would have the biggest of ships and everything else moving down Main St either! It's simply a wonder that the whole nuclear facility didn't get ripped in half and then everything be contaminated for 100k plus years!

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