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New track, Dancing free
Hi! This is my most recent tune I did. I thought it was ready but got some feedback which made me think things again. One problem is the intro thingy. I welcome comments and especially about the intro. There is more to read in the SoundCloud about it. https://soundcloud.com/madrigal7/dancing-free
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/21 09:41:50
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☄ Helpfulby kakku 2016/02/22 12:18:16
That Gina G song is a guilty pleasure of mine  . It does sound a little similar, and also reminds me of the break in Howard Jones 'New Song'. I thought it was the best bit of the track, loads of energy going on there, had my head bobbing. The rest was fine, pleasant but quite bland, it would have been nice to hear some of that energy coming back later in the piece.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/21 14:33:27
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☄ Helpfulby kakku 2016/02/22 12:18:24
I like the intro mate. That theme coming back in the song would be cool.
Mix-wise, the drums have too much reverb to my ears
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/21 23:58:01
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☼ Best Answerby kakku 2016/02/22 12:18:57
Mix is inoffensive. Although I'm only listening to it on laptop speakers. But that's good because it's coming through clean. Drums sound a bit boxy, maybe use an EQ at 400hz to clean this up. Without a chord chart it's hard to tell you to change a chord sequence. But for me, there is nothing like using maj minor, to create some interest and difference. I think that's what's missing for me the most, and what I've been trying to tell you. Here use this http://www.guitar-chords.org.uk/chords-key-f-sharp-minor.html it's Roman Numeral Analysis and it tells you what chords you can use in any giving key. Normally it's 1, 3, 5...but to really shock people when you're about to go into the first section at the very end of piece...try the seventh. I'm sorry if you already know music theory. The modulation near the end was cool. That's more like what I've been talking about. Peace Ben
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/22 11:43:21
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That Gina G song is a guilty pleasure of mine . It does sound a little similar, and also reminds me of the break in Howard Jones 'New Song'.
I thought it was the best bit of the track, loads of energy going on there, had my head bobbing. The rest was fine, pleasant but quite bland, it would have been nice to hear some of that energy coming back later in the piece.
Thank you for your nice comments although unfortunately I now think that putting this tune on the SoundCloud was a bit silly because it is not a good tune. I don't know why but after I was told by a close person that it is really good I believed it really was a good tune and only now I realize my mistake. I agree with what you say about it on other parts.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/22 11:46:50
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I like the intro mate. That theme coming back in the song would be cool.
Mix-wise, the drums have too much reverb to my ears
Thank you for your nice comment. Mixing not my strong point. The intro part actually comes once again after the first chorus.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/22 11:52:03
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BenMMusTech
Mix is inoffensive. Although I'm only listening to it on laptop speakers. But that's good because it's coming through clean. Drums sound a bit boxy, maybe use an EQ at 400hz to clean this up.
Without a chord chart it's hard to tell you to change a chord sequence. But for me, there is nothing like using maj minor, to create some interest and difference. I think that's what's missing for me the most, and what I've been trying to tell you. Here use this http://www.guitar-chords.org.uk/chords-key-f-sharp-minor.html it's Roman Numeral Analysis and it tells you what chords you can use in any giving key. Normally it's 1, 3, 5...but to really shock people when you're about to go into the first section at the very end of piece...try the seventh.
I'm sorry if you already know music theory. The modulation near the end was cool. That's more like what I've been talking about.
Peace Ben
Thank you for your comment and tips. I really don't know much about music theory. I should invest some time on that.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/22 20:11:35
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Hmmm...I like this. Synthy, in a Beverly Hills Cop sound track sorta way!
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/23 10:38:49
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Hmmm...I like this. Synthy, in a Beverly Hills Cop sound track sorta way!
Thank you twisted6s.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/25 13:55:43
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Sounds mostly like you, though I hear something just a bit different than other recent pieces... can't quite put my finger on it. Anyhow, the main melody and supporting structure is a nice listen. And the synths fill the space well. The drums could still use a little work, but you probably already know that. 
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/26 04:04:45
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Sounds mostly like you, though I hear something just a bit different than other recent pieces... can't quite put my finger on it.
Anyhow, the main melody and supporting structure is a nice listen. And the synths fill the space well. The drums could still use a little work, but you probably already know that.
Thank you for commenting Steve. The other recent tunes I have sent here are not so recent. This one is about 4 months young, so not new, although I for some reason said so in SoundCloud. I have made many newer tunes but they are made by humming or piano or with a keyboard not connected to sonar and i have found it very difficult to put them to sonar as I have crap patience and difficulties to play things exactly as I hear them IF they are a bit long or difficult otherwise to play. The 'riff' in the beginning and after the first chorus remind me and probably many of the Gina G song Ooh ,aah just a little bit's riff. My drums are a mess. I put a couple of sample loops and SI Drum synth together to make the drums sound bigger. Edit: I made some minor changes to this tune just before sending it and also tried to mix it well.
post edited by kakku - 2016/02/26 04:21:38
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/26 13:13:43
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Very nice. Not familiar with the other song you wanted a comparison with, but here are my notes. Keep in mind, they are personal preference only. Too much reverb on the drums. Try not to rely on effects to gain space. Use your stereo field to your advantage. Everything else seems to be panned center. Try moving this around to fill out the space and you'll find you actually won't need much reverb. Just my two cents. Love the tune though!
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/26 18:27:56
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The reason I compare the intro with Gina G is mainly because the sound is alost the same, not the melody. I liked the mix of sounds. The string melody gets a bit dull after a while.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/28 07:39:25
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Very nice. Not familiar with the other song you wanted a comparison with, but here are my notes. Keep in mind, they are personal preference only. Too much reverb on the drums. Try not to rely on effects to gain space. Use your stereo field to your advantage. Everything else seems to be panned center. Try moving this around to fill out the space and you'll find you actually won't need much reverb. Just my two cents. Love the tune though!
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Thank you for the nice words and tips. My mixing is still very basic so drums have the same reverb as other instruments. In the future i will try Møre advanced tricks like your tips.
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/28 07:42:20
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The reason I compare the intro with Gina G is mainly because the sound is alost the same, not the melody. I liked the mix of sounds. The string melody gets a bit dull after a while.
Sorry for the late response. Thank you for the comments. I was afraid the intro thingy is too similar. The string melody is far from good I agree.
post edited by kakku - 2016/02/28 07:57:17
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/28 21:12:50
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Strangely appealing. I like it though I'm not a fan of this style.
Is that your "A Day in the Life?" It came on after. That was spectacular!
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Re: New track, Dancing free
2016/02/29 01:48:19
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Strangely appealing. I like it though I'm not a fan of this style.
Is that your "A Day in the Life?" It came on after. That was spectacular!
Thank you for your comment. I didn't do a cover song that I know of but like I said the intro reminded me of the Gina G song. But of course it can be that the tune is a copy but I don't think so. I have tried doing covers a long time ago but it didn't work out well.
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