Helpful Reply[SOLVED] New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in Sonar

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2016/05/26 07:54:02 (permalink)

[SOLVED] New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in Sonar

Hi all. Sorry if this is in the wrong spot, but it does seem to be potentially a Sonar-related issue, so... 
 
I have the Arturia V-Collection 4 and am investigating the new updates. I noticed that in my Arturia Software Center I had the option to install Analog Lab 2, which I did. Played around with it in standalone a bit. Nice interface! And nice to get some of the new sounds as a free/teaser update. 
 
However when I open the VSTi or the VST3i in Sonar (Platinum, latest build) it runs, and opens the GUI, but receives no MIDI and produces no audio, even when played from its own virtual keyboard. It's not an across-the-board issue with the new versions, as I've installed the Synclavier demo (which is pretty sweet!) and it functions as expected.
 
I am checking it in Ableton to see if the problem is there too... Nope, it works as expected in Live 9.
 
So it seems Sonar does not like this plugin? Can anyone confirm?
post edited by subtlearts - 2016/06/15 18:14:28

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 08:41:44 (permalink)
Let us know what you find.  I'm sitting on the upgrade/update question myself.  You looking to merely update the existing VST or upgrading to the new suite including the Synclavier?

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 08:51:23 (permalink)
OK. I've posted the question over at the Arturia forum as well, but I think that is a somewhat quieter place than this. I guess they probably have a problem report area as well, but I wanted to see if anyone here could confirm the issue before I do that. Might just be my system. Haven't tried uninstalling/reinstalling yet, because it seems so strange - the plugins scan, and load, but just don't do anything.
 
Regarding the upgrade question, I'm not sure yet. I want to make sure things work first. I do really like the Synclavier, though it would be better if it had the sampling/resynthesis possibility as well. But the piano and organ emulations aren't doing much for me, so the full meal deal upgrade is overkill and likely not worth $200 to me - maybe if they would update the V4 instruments and throw in the Synclavier for $150 I'd be tempted, but I think they know full well the Synclavier is the main draw and they'll want to tie it all together, or not at all. So the minimum update is more likely, but again - this issue with AL2 is making me cautious. 
 
EDIT: Also, cleverly, UVI seem to have a special on their Beast sample-based instrument, to tantalize those of us who have a sudden hankering for Synclavier sounds but aren't convinced by the full Arturia upgrade. Looks like it's 50 beans and change at AudioDeluxe. 
post edited by subtlearts - 2016/05/26 09:21:52

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 09:08:54 (permalink)
Running 64bit SONAR 2016.05 EAP release on Win 10. The 64bit Analog Lab 2 VST3 works OK. Any particular patch having problems?
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 09:12:25 (permalink)
I'm on exactly the same. All patches. No MIDI getting through, and no sound when played from the plugin's own keyboard. Argh. I guess I'll uninstall and reinstall then. 
 
EDIT: did a full uninstall and reinstall of AL2 and the situation is the same. Works everywhere except in Sonar. Strange!!!#
 
EDIT 2: on an impulse, I tried it hosted within NI Komplete Kontrol, within Sonar. Works fine. The plot thickens! But at least I have a workaround for the moment if I want to use some of those Synclavier sounds... 
post edited by subtlearts - 2016/05/26 12:57:05

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 14:16:26 (permalink)
Maybe try a rescan of your plugins?
 
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 14:31:10 (permalink)
I only have NI Guitar Rig 5 and Reaktor 5. I wonder if the problem is related to NKS support.
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 14:47:12 (permalink)
Just done a quick test of Arturia Analogue Lab 2 in SONAR Platinum 2016.05 Early release without a problem.
Sorry.  Will test again in the latest release and report back.

Edit:- Works fine under 2016.05.43 64 bit.
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 15:50:31 (permalink)
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So it seems Sonar does not like this plugin? Can anyone confirm?



Well you are not the only one having a problem http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/3423278 however it seems unrelated.
 
I have just updated Sonar to 2015.5 (64 Bit) and I tried Analog Lab 2 (VST3 version) I did not do an extensive test but a went through quite a few patches and everything seems to be working fine.
 
One thought, by any chance are you running the 32 bit plugin in Sonar 64 bit? Check the paths in the plug in manager and make sure its pointing at the right location for the 64 bit version of Analog Lab 2.

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 16:07:09 (permalink)
I ran into something similar in X3 with the demo version of Jupiter-8V (2.7.0). It worked fine standalone, but acted strangely disconnected in Sonar, no response to MIDI or GUI, no sound ... until I re-ran wave profiler. Then it responded normally, until I closed the project and/or restarted Sonar.  Running the wave profiler corrected the problem again temporarily.  So I uninstalled it.  Oddly, the CS80-V (2.7.0) worked just fine in Sonar.
 
Just noticed on the Arturia website, new in V Collection 5: Jup-8 V3 (3.0.0).  Installed a demo of the new version and using the included VST3, it works fine in Sonar now. Plus the larger, resizable GUI does wonders for my old eyes :-)
https://www.arturia.com/s.port/updates&manuals
 
Update: Just tested the demo for Analog Lab 2 VST3, and it works fine here with Sonar.
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 16:28:34 (permalink)
Just buyed and installed - all works fine as VST3 64-Bit.
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/05/26 16:41:31 (permalink)
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Running 64bit SONAR 2016.05 EAP release on Win 10. The 64bit Analog Lab 2 VST3 works OK. Any particular patch having problems?


I just quoted Steve - to be lazy. ;-)
I'm running the same setup here, and it loads OK and plays OK
I am having a problem where some presets are causing SONAR to crash though.
I've got another thread here
http://forum.cakewalk.com/Arturia-V-Collection-5-m3419140-p3.aspx#3423327
basically, I'm just looping a section of a song, and running through some presets. I crashed SONAR about 8 times. I don't know if it was the particular presets - or the fact that I'm looping an 8 bar section or what...
 

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/06/01 17:53:16 (permalink)
I've updated my seven Arturia synths to the new V3.
 
The Prophet is giving me problems... It has crashed Sonar twice now while I am browsing presets. Not even getting a chance to play the sound.
 
I clicked send on the fault reporter but I guess I should be contacting Arturia.
 
Oh, I should add that I am using the VST3 version...

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/06/01 19:18:42 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby synkrotron 2016/06/02 01:11:46
Yes you should contact arturia. If you give them the crash dump it wiill be useful to them.

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/06/01 19:49:57 (permalink)
I just d/l'ed the Arturia stuff for a new install... LAB 2 works like a charm.
 
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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/06/02 10:20:22 (permalink)
Thanks all.  I'm tempted by the update to existing rather than upgrade with Piano/Synclavier.  But... SPLAT Lifetime or Arturia?  I still have 5 months of my Sonar sub left, but not sure the 199 deal will last til then.

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Re: New version of Arturia Analog Lab 2 not working in SOnar 2016/06/15 17:56:04 (permalink)
For anyone possibly stumbling across this thread, having the same problem, or just curious... the problem turned out to be high latency. Analog Lab 2 seems to become unresponsive if latency is set to 50ms or higher. I had it set high while mixing a very large complex project on my poor old machine, but if I turn it down to normal playing/recording settings it works perfectly.
 
The solution came out of the blue thanks to this thread: http://forum.cakewalk.com/Arturia-Analog-2-problems-Sonar-Platinum-m3434659.aspx#3435043
 
So I'll mark this solved and report the same to the Arturia thread I have open on the same subject. Thanks all for help and suggestions! Another forum win!

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