Newbie Needs Help: Delta Audiophile 192 to Mackie 802-VLZ3 Mixer Setup

Hello All,
Following recommendations from the forum, I have just bought a M-Audio Audiophile 192 soundcard and a Mackie 802-VLZ3 mixer. Actually I am new to both hardware but installed the Audiophile 192 without any problem. My Windows XP Pro has already identified the sound card but when I opened the Windows Sounds and Audio Devices panel the default soundcard is Delta AP 1/2 but the Volume is grey out but the Sound, Audio, Voice and Hardware in the menu are all set to Delta AP 1/2 but I can't here any sound from my headphone which I hooked to the Mackie 802-VLZ3 mixer.

So here is how I connect the Mixer to the Soundcard using single 3m cables.

6.3mm Mono Male ---> Audiophile 192 Monitor Output 1+2
RCA Mono Male ---> Mackie 802-VLZ3 Tape IN L+R (I have tried the Tape OUT L+R but no success)
Headphone plug ---> Mackie 802-VLZ3 PHONES jack

1 How can I know whether the Audiophile 192 is communicating with the Mackie 802-LVZ3?
2. I have no idea how to set the Mixer to send sound to my headphone. I read and reread the Mackie user manual but I can't just understand the whole novel there.

So I shall be so much grateful if someone will put me in the right direction to save me from the frustration I have been going through for the past ten days.

Thanks everyone in advance.

SLooper

 

Hello Beagle,

Thanks so much for your response.

I guess hooking the Mackie to the Audiophile 192 is not the problem but how to set the Mackie 802 Mixer to send sound to my headphone. Too many explanations on a very simple setting to get sound into my headphone. I don't want to do much with my system for now as I am just a beginner.

My very question is, is it normal that the Volume on the Windows XP Pro Sound and Audio Devices panel is gray out? It seems somehow that the volume on the sound card is Muted. I am not sure whether my problem is with the sound card or the Mixer.

So I shall be so much grateful if someone who is conversant with the Mackie 802 can and the Audiophile 192 point me to the right direction e.g. which button to press down and which knob to be turn to which direction etc. on the Mackie 802 to get sound.

Thanks all again in advance.

SLooper.

Turn down the control room volume (if you have speakers connected)
Press the "Tape" button on the output select panel.
Turn up the headphone volume.

no, you don't need more connections from the AP192 to the mixer if you have those connections L & R connected to the TAPE IN L & R on the mixer.

if you are have the TAPE IN button depressed then you should be able to get output from the headphone output.  if you don't, then you need to check your m-audio software panel and make sure that your signal is routing to the MONITOR OUTPUT MIX. 

if not, route it there.

if you can't get that to work - it might be easier for you just to connect the MAIN OUTPUTS instead of the MONITOR MIX OUPUTS on the AP192, just move the cables over to the other outputs.

I didn't say to change back to your onboard soundcard, tho.  I said to change the output from MONITOR MIX to MAIN OUTPUTS like the m-audiophile 192 instructions you posted above.

what 2 boards are you talking about?  the 192 and the mixer? 

what do you have set up in sonar for your OUTPUTs?  if you have the mixer connected to the MAIN outputs then you need to set your sonar outputs to the MAIN OUTPUTS of the 192, if you have the mixer connected to the MONITOR MIX connections then you need to set your outputs to the MONITOR MIX outputs in sonar.

give me some screen shots of your m-audio software panel and your sonar settings in OPTIONS>AUDIO

if you don't know how to do screen shots, here are the instructions
http://forum.cakewalk.com/tm.aspx?m=1592276

Here are the Screenshots of the Sonar Audio Settings:

1. Devices



2. Driver Settings



3. Playback and Recordings



Thanks in advance.

With the mixer, you should test the headphone output by plugging in a CD player. There are ways to route monitoring on the board using the solo /mute buttons so if say a solo button on Chan 2 is depressed you won't hear the tape return.
WHy don't you try using the main 1/2 outs?
The big problem with those cards is they don't have a dedicated headphone jack, I've seen a few threads hear with same topic.

why is sample rate set to 22050?

Beagle and Batsbrew,

Thanks so much for the correction. Actually the rate was set to 44100 but I guess I forgot to change it back after playing around with it.

Anyway, nothing changes, still no sound coming in my headphone.

Any other ideas...?

Thanks again in advance.

SweetLooper


Those are NOT RCA jacks on the card. Those are SPDIF jacks. (Digital I/O) You can't plug these into your Mackie. They plug into SPDIF jacks on outboard gear with digital I/O capability.
 
Those are not Headphone jacks on the card. They're TRS balanced monitor out jacks. One is L ch., one is R. ch.
 
Plug Mackie outputs to your balanced input jacks on your card. Use your outputs from your card to feed active monitors. Use your Monitor outputs from your card to setup a monitoring chain in conjunction with the intermal Audiophile software mixer.  

ok - but I want you to check the meters on the m-audio software.  play something while the m-audio software is open and look at the OUTPUT and MONITOR MIX METERS.

Johnny - actually YOUR m-audio panel is the older software - his is the new.  I used to have an m-audio delta 44 and yours was what it used to look like, his is the newer version.

then the problem is in the mixer.  let's try connecting it up slightly differently and see if that will tell us a little more.

if you have some 1/4" instrument cables, connect them up from the soundcard monitor mix output to the INPUT 1 & 2 on the mixer.  play something either in sonar or in WMP and see if the meters on the mixer move now.

yes, LINE 1 & LINE 2 inputs of the mixer connected to the OUTPUTS of the m-audio 192.  check the meters and listen withheadphones.

no, you misunderstood.  what you did WILL cause a feedback loop - that's not what I was trying to get you to do.

all I wanted you to do was move the OUTPUT of the M-AUDIO AP 192 to the INPUT 1 & 2 of the MACKIE instead of TAPE IN.

look at your mixer - you currently have cables going from the soundcard 192 outputs to the TAPE IN L & R.  move those to the MACKIE INPUT 1 & 2 instead.

look at the picture below - I know it's not exactly the same mixer, but it works very much the same way.



see where it says FROM SOUNDCARD?  move those to the place where it says MIC and GUITAR instead.