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davlav4210
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2014/05/30 20:59:42 (permalink)

Newbie needs help

I'm new to Sonor X3 (previously worked with a much older version) and am simply trying to export a project to MP3. Unfortunately, the 'Audio' option under File->Export is not enabled. The only option enabled is 'Track Template'. I'm sure there's just something basic I'm missing. Can anyone help out a newbie?
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    scook
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 21:07:11 (permalink)
    Tracks must be selected to enable the export option.
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 21:15:21 (permalink)
    I use Ctrl key + A key and it selects all tracks, then you should get all the export options. eg mp3 etc

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    davlav4210
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 21:16:11 (permalink)
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    Tracks must be selected to enable the export option.




    Hmm. I've tried that and still no go. Simple as Edit->Select->Select All, correct? Still does not enable the export dialog. Am I missing something stupid here?
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 21:50:06 (permalink)
    It sounds like the project may contain only MIDI tracks being played through the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. If this is the case, there is nothing to export because there is nothing in the project producing sound. In order to export audio from SONAR, something in SONAR must be producing audio. This might be a good time to run through the tutorials in the "Getting Started" section of the help files especially tutorial #4.
     
    If the above assumptions are wrong, providing more details about the project and your hardware/software configuration may be necessary to provide a solution.
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 22:24:17 (permalink)
    That's probably it. Thanks!
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 22:39:20 (permalink)
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    It sounds like the project may contain only MIDI tracks being played through the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth. If this is the case, there is nothing to export because there is nothing in the project producing sound. In order to export audio from SONAR, something in SONAR must be producing audio. This might be a good time to run through the tutorials in the "Getting Started" section of the help files especially tutorial #4.
     
    If the above assumptions are wrong, providing more details about the project and your hardware/software configuration may be necessary to provide a solution.




    Looked at the tutorial and still a bit confused. I can't even get the midi tracks to bounce to an audio track - they don't show up as a source. Is there something about the GS Wavetable Synth that doesn't support this? Do I need an alternate Synth output? I don't recall this from the previous version of Sonor I used.
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/30 22:49:26 (permalink)
    To save some typing here is a thread about using the Microsoft GS Wavetable Synth http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2221378 I would suggest using soft synths instead. The TTS-1 is the GM synth supplied with SONAR.
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/31 09:37:19 (permalink)
    +1
    There's no reason to use GS wavetable synth when X3 offers so much better options in soft synths.
    You don't mention which version of X3 you are using, though, so I don't know what synths you've got.
    Do the tutorial about using soft synths and study the Help files & Youtube videos.
     
    BTW, selecting nothing equals to selecting all.

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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/31 10:03:28 (permalink)
    Sonar comes with some really nice soft synths, which you will like much better than the cheesy MS sounds.
     
    The TTS-1 is a nice GM synth, and is multi-timbral, meaning that it can play multiple sounds at the same time.  (you can have a different sound on each of 16 midi channels, or could assign multiple sounds to the same midi channel, or combine those approaches as desired).
     
    It will require some investment of time into learning the ropes with Sonar, but if you go through the tutorials and videos, and consider picking up one of the REALLY well-written books on Sonar, you will get up to speed MUCH faster, and create much higher quality work in the process.
     
    Just a heads up - IF you are not currently using a dedicated audio interface with Sonar, you may begin having dropouts and crackly noisy sound, once you start using the soft synths, or get into larger projects.  If this happens, it is because of all of the massive analog/digital conversion that has to take place all being handled by your CPU.
     
    An audio interface has dedicated circuitry to take over that daunting conversion of conversion, and is really a needed component for using Sonar.  A basic interface will run from around $120 to around $160, and fancier ones with more inputs can run up to and over $500.
     
    I know the above was not part of your questions - but I thought you might want to know ahead of time, so that you can prepare for adding one to your budget at some point.
     
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    davlav4210
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/31 12:37:17 (permalink)
    OK, I think I'm getting the idea. For the record, I'm just running the base version of X3. When I look in the preferences for the midi output the GS wavetable is the only option that shows up. Should I be seeing other options? Is there something I need to do to enable the other synths that you say comes with Sonor?
     
    Also, for the record, I'm running Sonor with Parallels.
     
    Also, thanks for everyone's help here!
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/31 12:43:20 (permalink)
    you have to insert the tts1 synth into the project from the synth rack or insert-synth menu option.

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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/31 12:57:42 (permalink)
    davlav4210...Is there something I need to do to enable the other synths that you say comes with Sonar?



    Hi, Davlav - You're at square one of Sonarland, and it's a long winding path ahead of you.  Slowly, but surely, you'll grasp how to use the program to create the music you want.  And look at how great this Forum is - You've already gotten expert advice from some of the most patient and knowledgeable Forum members.
     
    It's difficult to pass on info to newbies, because some of the basics are still not understood, and of course more experienced users who are willing to help still can't be expected to re-write the manual.
     
    Start working your way through the manual and tutorials that came with your basic version of Sonar.  Save up your studio budget pennies for an audio interface, because, as Bob Bone says in post #10, you really need to have one.
     
    Your basic version does have the TTS-1 General MIDI synth people have referred to here.  In fact, your version of Sonar has 12 virtual instruments, including the Studio Instruments suite. -- But now, you need to start studying on how to use them.  It's really beyond the scope of any thread to explain everything - it would call for pages and pages of text with information that's already available in the manuals and guides Cakewalk has written.
     
    Good adventure ahead!--- Have fun, see you here on the Forum.
     
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    davlav4210
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/05/31 13:01:43 (permalink)
    dlion16
    you have to insert the tts1 synth into the project from the synth rack or insert-synth menu option.




    That was it. Thanks!
     
    And thanks to all for their patience and time to answer my questions!
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/06/09 21:58:15 (permalink)
    Using X3, I exported to a 96/32 wav last week, no issues...worked as normal.  Now, for the same 3-min song, it takes over an hour.  The song plays through, then "mixing down audio" just crawls.  Waz up with that?!?!?!
     
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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/06/10 18:44:13 (permalink)
    Sounds like all Midi tracks. If you have some Synth sounds, that would be the way to go.

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    Re: Newbie needs help 2014/06/10 19:11:26 (permalink)
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    Sounds like all Midi tracks. If you have some Synth sounds, that would be the way to go.


    ?? Who are you talking to, and what does any of this mean?  Sorry - I can't figure it out.
     
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