clintmartin
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Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
https://soundcloud.com/clintmartin/nineteen-eighty-seven This song has reminded me of the 80's all along so... 1987 it is! The year I graduated High school. I had a few new plugins for this one. The guitar is Amplitube Fender Super-Sonic with Valhalla Ubermod and a touch of ValhallaVintageVerb (mix was up to 6%). I got a deal on Fab Filter's Pro-C. It's on the master bus with about 1db of gain reduction. The master bus used Sonar's quad curve with the pure setting, Fab Filter Pro-C and LimiterNo.6. I tried several Limiters on this one with all giving good results, but in the end LimiterNo.6 is my favorite. I tried the Concrete limiter (which I did use on the bass track), TB Barricade, and T-Racks clipper+Brickwall. The Limiter is only barely doing anything, but it's loud enough in my opinion. Any thoughts or suggestions would be most appreciated.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/06 19:21:04
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Hey Clint! Sounds great bro! Lots of nice fretwork in there! I agree with you that it's got that eighties vibe going on. That's not a bad thing though. Lots of my favorite music came from the eighties. Got any lyrics in the works for this? I can definitely hear a vocal melody when I listen to it. Good job on this. Mix sounds good!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/06 19:26:41
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Thanks! I thought it sounded like "Hang on Loosely" by 38 special, but I checked...I should be good! Hahaha. Yeah, singing is something I've always done so I'm sure I'll get back to it. To be honest, I'm trying to get some songs in Music Libraries and Instrumentals are what's most requested. The last band I was in was a 3 piece were I did all of the singing. 40 songs a night for 5 years. I just want to play guitar for awhile. Thanks for listening, I always enjoy hearing your songs.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/06 21:36:47
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Hang on Loosely it is...but better! I wish my mixes were this defined. Great job, ol pal!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/06 22:01:13
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"Hold on Loosely" Is the .38 Special song. I've been saying Hang. I told you I'm from Arkansas!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 06:05:05
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Clint, this is awesome man!
Yeah it does start with that 38 Special feel but you took it in totally different directions.
Very clean guitar work. The guitar sound is great. Your riffs are tight.
Mix sounded very balanced and bright.
That is something mine lack.
Good job
Dave
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 10:11:18
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Nice job on all the way around. Really love the guitar tones during the solo. Super expressive and sizzling. Mix is really good.
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clintmartin
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 11:02:30
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yorolpal
Hang on Loosely it is...but better! I wish my mixes were this defined. Great job, ol pal!
Your a far better engineer than me, but thanks for lying! I appreciate it! I'm trying to improve.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 11:03:59
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@ dxp and guitartrek (I love that name) Thanks for taking the time to listen. I do appreciate it!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 12:25:00
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What can I say but totally awesome to the max. Love the guitar sound and your playing speaks for its' self. Everything fits together very nicely and the mix sounds great. Very nice piece of work.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 13:48:56
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Thanks John! Nice of you to take the time.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 14:27:35
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Hi Clint,excellent guitar playing and mix !
Rik
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 14:58:55
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Nice tune and nice playing. Thanks for dragging back the memories. 
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 15:11:38
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Very cool... the opening riff reminds me of something...
excellent production Clint...
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 17:51:46
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Oh it reminds you of .38 Special! I had to go back and listen when I realized it was close to that song. I think it's plenty different enough. I never ever thought I would have a song that would remind me of .38 special...I think they suck! Hahaha.
Thanks for the comments...Rikkie and Wookiee. Thanks for listening!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/07 22:28:03
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Excellent playing and the mix is top notch! The opening also reminds me of something else also.
Nice one!!!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/08 20:42:57
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It only sounds like those .38 guys for about the first 30 seconds. Great playing all around! The lead sounded just a touch muffled to me, but that might be your intent. Loved it!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/08 21:10:05
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I like this Muchly...... The lead guitar is too upfront and wide for my taste though and the drums feel too in the middle...the rhythm guitars and bass are right on but the lead takes up 90% of the stereo field.... get the drums more like the Lead guitar and the lead more like the drums and then I`ll ...Love it instead of Like it Muchly.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/08 21:10:08
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I like this Muchly...... The lead guitar is too upfront and wide for my taste though and the drums feel too in the middle...the rhythm guitars and bass are right on but the lead takes up 90% of the stereo field.... get the drums more like the Lead guitar and the lead more like the drums and then I`ll ...Love it instead of Like it Muchly.
Whoa.... to you ...oh...earth and sea...
for the devil sends the beast with wrath.....
because he knows the time is short.....
let him who hath understanding.....
reckon the number of the beast.....
for it is a human number...
it`s number is.....
666 So if JESUS rose from the DEAD Does that mean he`s the ORIGINAL ZOMBIE?
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clintmartin
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 12:39:27
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Thanks for the input dcumpian and alkie! I apprecate your ideas and will give it a good re-listen with both of your thoughts in mind.
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THE NIGHT FOX
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 15:24:40
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Very cool Clint !! Enjoy your guitar playing everytime I listen to any of your music on this forum . I'm still trying to TAME my AXE , shes a bit too wild for me right now but I'm working at it with daily practice .
James
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 16:09:58
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Thanks James, and Thanks Freddy J for the compliments and for taking the time to listen.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 19:15:31
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Frank: Opening riff is like "Hold On Loosely" I like this a lot. The mix is nice and open and the playing is superb.
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clintmartin
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 21:15:46
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Thanks Scotty. I didn't steal it on purpose! Hahaha. I did know it reminded me of something and when I figured it out I went and listened to that song. I'm safe. I am starting to think it's a little on the quite side. I didn't hit the limiter very hard at all. I guess it could use a couple of dbs. Thanks for listening...I like your new band!
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 22:02:28
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First, great guitar playing and I like the song a lot! I wish I could play like that! I echo alkie - once the lead comes in you have to struggle to hear the rhythm guitars - and they're good, don't hide 'em. If you have Channel Tools, put it on the lead track and narrow it a bit (or use TB OmniSone - http://www.toneboosters.com/tb-omnisone/). What are the drums? I'm an old dude, but I think they could use just a touch of reverb. I'd make them a bit wider too, although the crash cymbals are panned pretty far to the sides.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/09 23:46:03
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Thanks for the listen and the ideas! The drums are EZ drummer triggered with a Roland Octapad. They are panned, but not much. The overhead mics are panned fairly wide, which is getting that cymbal spread. I thought the drums had too much verb from the room mics in EZ drummer so I turned those off. I'll go back and re-visit this after yours and others comments. The guitars (Thanks for the compliments) are a little trickier to get what I wanted and to still have the rhythym guitars loud. The rhythym guitars are double tracked, while the main guitar has a lot going on. I'm using channel tools to widen the image (7ms of delay on the left side) and Valhalla's Ubermod for a stereo delay and slight modulation. There is a touch (6% mix) of Valhalla's Vintage Verb which follows channel tools in the signal flow creating a slight stereo reverb. In the 80's the snare always had a big lush verb which I never cared for, but the over the top guitar effects were good at times. Chorus, delays and reverbs...kinda out of fashion now, but a slightly retro sound without the splash in the snare was the original idea. Now I just want it to sound good. I'm not tied down to the eighties theme at all. Thanks for the feedback guys...It's really helpful to have your ears to lean on.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/10 02:37:17
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Yeah great chops there... Drums are definitely flat to me, no dimension, almost like you have a phase problem with the drums. Very mono and flat. Given that it's an instrumental at this point I think the upfront solo guitar is fine for the mix... only complaint there is too much verb on the solo guitar. Perhaps a bit drier in the verb dept. with maybe more delay reflections instead of verby haziness? The wide chorusy verby sound of the octaved solo line sounds good though. Anyway, great job all the way around. Can we get the tab? :)
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/10 08:42:50
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They say that great music happens when the composer writes about something they know. So, you clearly had a really fabulous time at High School! This is inspired composition and faultless musicianship. And while my hearing is not what it was (it's never recovered from me leaning against Clapton's speakers in the sixties!) I reckon the mix is better than good.
Malcolm
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/19 16:18:18
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Thanks Malcolmb! I appreciate your comments and I would like to hear that Clapton story sometime! I just watched a Cream documentary on Netflix...I've never been a huge Clapton fan (I of course respect and admire him), but I love Cream. I wish he would have stayed on that road awhile longer.
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Re: Nineteen Eighty-Seven (Original Instrumental)
2013/07/19 16:41:05
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Clint,
This sounds just fantastic. I might brighten the lead just a tad and widen the drums a little bit, but minor nits there. Playing is quite remarkable.. Like it.
Regards
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