No Royalties for Radio Play?

thats odd, I mean all DJ's have to submit playlists here.. and yep there is a royalty attached to it.

it's caused a nightmare for club dj's here.. since a lot of the stuff is on pre-release in certain genre's.

if someone was playing my stuff , not for profit.. no worries

but the commercial stations here have to pay PRS or the equivalent of it

WOW!....that site is a wealth of information.

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Well I hope more and more of this royalty stuff will spoil everyone's good time. I'm perfectly happy to let them drive their business away to the amature crowd.

Mechanical royalties come from CD sales. (sheet music, records, films etc..) The artist & record company makes royalties from these sales...


Performance royalties are paid to the songwriter & publisher, and this is paid based on a formula by the Performance rights org....like BMI to which the songwriter & publisher belong.


Artists ...unless they have writing credit, don't necessarily collect performance royalties. They make their money in mechanical royalties and concert revenue.

Interesting... I'd be happy to sell a CD for a buck! LOL!

Performance royalties are just not from the radio, but movie, TV anytime in a public venue that your music gets paid. I don't know about clubs/jukboxes, tho I suspect there is a built in cost.

I had a friend and I produced a couple of incidental songs of his for a major release movie (350 screens or so). The movie tanked (I didn't even get time to see it in the theatre) but it did show on TV and video. This guy joined BMI (I think, or one of the organizations) and still has his check framed (it wasn't enough to cash - he wanted the wall bling).

There is a forumla that the performance companies use - they basically charge radio, TV and the movie companies a fee. They then divide the loot into small pots they send to their clients. THis is in addition to whatever fee you are paid by the producer/etc. I'm not sure how clubs/venues work, but that is the job i want - go spend the night in a ti ... gentleman's club counting which songs are played and then giving that to someone who extrapolates what is played in the market.

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don't know about clubs/jukboxes, tho I suspect there is a built in cost.

TRUTH.... I was in a house band at a night club for a few years.... and the people from ASCAP did come in every so often to check the music on the jukebox as well as our set lists. The club owner had to pay a fee to ASCAP based on what songs were on the J-box and what songs we played live. There was a little ASCAP sticker that was placed on the door.

ParanoiA, clubs over here have to submit EVERY song on the playlist.. regardless.. if the artist is PRS registered then they get money.. So of course a DJ will put a fair few of their own tracks on the play list

film / tv licensing is an interesting one.. the BBC here use someone I knows music for a buy out fee for TV show use ONLY, not films. They get a far smaller commission every time it's used.

another friend did some library music that sky used a fair bit, BUT it was solely 1 fee for it.. no repeat fee's.

Moby is probably the most famous case of making as much money from licensing for tv / films as he did in sales with his play album...

I mean most record labels, well independents used to give none legit stations dj's here promo copies to get air play / promote a record. that used to be the case with the few I knew. They just wanted the advertising really.