No Sonar on Future of Music Coalition survey

The future of music coalition is conducting a huge survey to help determine how musicians make money. http://futureofmusic.org/...artist-revenue-streams I took the medium survey and as part of the survey, it asked how I created/recorded music. It listed pro tools, ableton,logic,garageband and many others(10 or 15) but not sonar.(I should have printed the page) I think that omission says a lot about both the popularity of sonar and even more about it's perception in the eyes of MUSIC INDUSTRY LEADERS. Sad but true. ---dale

They're heeeeeerrr

ampfixer


They're heeeeeerrr

Who's heeeeeerrrre, John?


RB

Did they ask about Reaper? It's free too and a lot more advanced than Garageband from what I hear.

Thank you Susan, I use it so infrequently that I forgot about that. IIRC, I even mentioned it's not free in a thread the other day. Doh! :)

That is one nice thing about Reaper ... the demo never times out. I've had it on my system for months and only used it 3 or 4 times to evaluate it. It's nice to know it's there for you to keep trying out.

I personally would have no issue at all giving them $60 if I used it.

kc2ine

John


Also why do they ask about Garageband when its a free and very limited app. Not unlike wordpad.

have you ever heard about Garageband crashed? Limited but reliable.  Application has to be rock stable to succeed. Same reason why Kalashnikov
most simple weapon is the most reliable and recognized assault riffle.
Regardless if in snow, mud, water or sand it just does work...simple as that.

Don't write about a subject you know nothing about. I have had a lot of time with both an M16 and an AK47 in combat. I doubt you have.

rbowser

John

Don't write about a subject you know nothing about. I have had a lot of time with both an M16 and an AK47 in combat. I doubt you have.

An especially ugly post.


Randy B.

Yes it is and is meant to be. People talk as if they know about weapons for combat and haven't a clue. I resent someone causally using wrong information they may have heard in such a way.

Not only is it wrong but it has no reason being used here.

 

 

Okay I took the survey and got to Item #36:
Also missing is;
Cubase/Nuendo (this immediately raised a flag)
FL Studio
Studio One
Reaper
Samplitude
 
These are big ones I can recall off the top of my head. So, I don't think Sonar is being slighted here.

Goal: To gather crucial information about the ways that US-based musicians and composers are currently generating income from songs, recordings, performances or brand, and how this has changed over the past five years.


From their introductory page...US based only.


https://www.research.net/s/moneyfrommusic

one survey.  pretty insignificant.  it was probably written by a mac user.  and judging by the other daws that are missing, I'd say sonar users are in pretty good company.  garageband is not a professional tool and cubase, reaper and sonar are three of the most popular daws in the world.

John

rbowser

John

Don't write about a subject you know nothing about. I have had a lot of time with both an M16 and an AK47 in combat. I doubt you have.

An especially ugly post.


Randy B.

Yes it is and is meant to be. People talk as if they know about weapons for combat and haven't a clue. I resent someone causally using wrong information they may have heard in such a way.

Not only is it wrong but it has no reason being used here.

How about if the person writes about it exhaustively in a Pulitzer Prize winning book after finishing a career in the United States Marine Corp.?

http://www.amazon.com/Gun..-Chivers/dp/0743270762/












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Yes it is and is meant to be. People talk as if they know about weapons for combat and haven't a clue. I resent someone causally using wrong information they may have heard in such a way. Not only is it wrong but it has no reason being used here

 
I think he was referring to the reputation of the AR in the beginning (most soldiers in Viet-Nam hated them) and the well known fact that the AK variants will work patched together with Yougoslavian, Romanian, Russian, and other components cobbled together. Also, through personal experience an AR .223 will tend to bury a bullet in a tree while an AK will tend to knock chunks of tree away. It is widely accepted that the AK is a marvel in the world of assult/miitary rifles.
 
A Kalashnikov DAW.. that would be interesting!
 
Finally, I defer to your experience and thank you for the infored opinion. I am just saying what popular opinion is and one of the reasons why... the original AR-16 need improvement but I think all that was addressed pretty quickly. However, it got a bad rap in the beginning and those things are hard t shake. 
 
 

It's just that if someone uses an analogy one should be a little more careful about which analogy they are using....


Quite frankly it looks to me more like the original survey was more about in what ways musicians, producers, etc receive income from their work...I guess the DAW question was poorly formulated but was secondary to the main question.

jbow

         It is widely accepted that the AK is a marvel in the world of assult/miitary rifles. 

 
A Kalashnikov DAW.. that would be interesting!
 
  

exactly, only complete ignorant like John doesn't accept that.  I guess he thinks he's second name is Rambo...
As I see he's like that on any subject.  Waste of time going into discussion with that dude. 

Yes it is and is meant to be. People talk as if they know about weapons for combat and haven't a clue. I resent someone causally using wrong information they may have heard in such a way. Not only is it wrong but it has no reason being used here.

A bit sensitive there, eh?

But frankly - I feel the same way reading some of the posts around here regarding DAWs