No startup of newly installed X1 Studio

Nice to see that there are lots of you getting to work with X1.
I have a problem that is really getting my back up and just wondering if there is anybody else trying to get this wonderful program to work.
I have tried to install X1 on my machine over the past 2 days (Xmas gift) I can get right up to the point where it tests my audio set up which it says is fine but then when I click to start the program I get no response on the screen i.e. it seems to fail to start. BUT when I try to shut down it tells me it cannot because X1 is running. The strange part is that there is no sign of it in the task manager.
Running Win 7 64bit, Intel Q8400, 4gb RAM,ATI RadeonHD5450 graphics, Creative XFi Elite Pro. 
All ideas and suggestions (be nice) welcome.

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Does your audio driver have any release in background options? No idea

What driver mode do you have chosen in preferences?
Don't understand
WDM or the new native stuff?
Don't understand

Do you have sounds turned to "none" in you Windows settings?
 Windows default sound scheme.
Sorry but I am new to all this and havenot grasped the jargon yet. Thanks for your interest.

Turn off windows sound... set it to NONE.

Learn about what sort of drivers your Creative has..and in the short time before SONAR crashes on you open "P" and check you driver settings in SONAR under audio options etc. Make sure they match what's available for your Creative card. You mave have a WaveRT driver running or maybe a WDM

Your Creative card has a small driver application. Find it in your windows "system" dialog and open the driver app and see what options are available.

Do one thing at a time so that you don't get to confused.

best regards,
mike

I have not tried the 32bit, I thought about it but really want to be able to use Maxm RAM.
I've been using Acid music studio 8 and in that you can use ASIO but you choose that within the program (works very well with the Xfi elite pro) and as I cannot even get into X1 how could I choose it?
Short of changing the sound card and console (cost an arm and leg) I want to get it working.
I wondered if the Acid MS8 would conflict but really don't want to uninstall it.
I'm at a loss really.

Mike, Have set sounds to 'NONE'
In the Driver details it shows
Value
Creative Xfi Audio Processor(WDM)
I have no chance to check within X1 as it does not start let alone crash.

the WDM s preferable for use with SONAR... so the wave profile is working on the right thing

It was just something that needed to be checked before you went further in trouble shooting.

Does the Creative dialog have a share or release in background option?

Katherine, Hi! the only way I could kill it was to revert the PC to an earlier version because although it was telling me Sonar was running it did not show in the task manager. I shall have to do another install.
Mike
Does the Creative dialog have a share or release in background option?
Not sure I understand what you mean here. I shall have to read the manual.
1 thing I notice is that I have an ATI High Def audio device, which I am sure is the built in sound on the motherboard, also enabled.

Next time you get the indication that Sonar is still running but cannot find it in task manager.  Check another way.
 
Go to Start, type "CMD" in the box and a dos window will open, then type "tasklist"   Note if SONAR.EXE is in that list.  Also note that is has an PID (a 3 or 4 digit number) associated with the process.
 
If SONAR.EXE in that list, you can kill it while you are there at the cmd/dos window.   Type "taskkill /PID[pid#] /F     So, for example, if SONAR's PID is 2548, you would type:  taskkill /PID 2548 /F
 
Katherine

Mike can probably provide more definitive information re the release option, but, check in you normal Control Panel under Hardware and Sound, then Manage Audio Devices, then Speaker Properties, then Advanced.  Check to see that Exclusive mode is not checked.
 
I have not used SB stuff in 10 years, so my brain is a bit (ah heck...a lot) foggy on its implementation.   Also, check within the Cakewalk forums under Hardware and look for threads about your Creative card.
 
 
Good Luck.
 
 

Katherine
Had a look at the hardware section and got filled with gloom. Seems there is plenty of history re SB.
Brain now going round in circles. Research would seem to suggest that an audio interface, preferably USB would be in order. If I were to go down this road and remove the SB from the system so it could not interfere would I then be able to run SonarX1? I can see a benefit in having a dedicated PC for this but am really annoyed that I have to go to these lengths.
My whole system at the moment is;
Self built PC Win 7 64bit, Intel Q8400, 4gb RAM,ATI RadeonHD5450 graphics, Creative XFi Elite Pro. Roland A30 controller (it's circa 1984) Waldorf blofeld synth, Yamaha TG100 tone generator, Alesis Multimix 6 which I output to a Panasonic HiFi amp and Spkrs. I intend to go for some studio monitors when funds are available or I can persuade the wife of their absolute necessity.( as they say in the Simpsons, "what about the children", I have 2 boys both learning Guitar,electric. This is all for them really,honest.)

In Task manager there is a tab labelled processes. the pprogram may not show but its likely that the process is still running.

Clcik the process tab and look for SONARPDR.exe or SONARSTD.exe if running Producer or Studio versions.

Just right click and select end process. In a second or 2 the process should end allowing you to be able to restart SONAR.

there are usually one fo 2 things that cause thios problem.
1. A running connected MIDI device that hasn't "let go of SONAR" and won't allow it to close. unpluging this MIDI device usually wil allow SONAR to close.

2. A pplugin that isn't working properly and stops SONAR from closing.

using the above process close SONAR and then start it by double clicking on a project file name while you hold the shift key down. This is called starting in Safe Mode. It will allow you to select 1 plugin at a time as SONAR opens the chosen project and you will finally find the culprit as it will be the one that stops SONAR from loading properly or gives an error message.