No worms here............

I'm thinking this thread was a bad idea and will lead to some sort of bad scene.

I should of thought that thru a bit more.

Thanks for the civil replies.

You guys are all good people.

What I think isn't worth the proverbial "Can of Worms"Sorry guys

can't argue with you right now...........




I'm eating a corn dog! :) lol


Nah, you're pretty right and I doubt CW will remove it. It's just an observation and not political.

Corn dogs are the absolute worst thing on the planet. how is that food? Uh oh....now it's going to be political somehow!! :)

zungle

all THOSE jobs went overseas.

I hear this a lot, as well as negative remarks regarding immigration.


I say............


"You Reap What You Sew"...and "What Short Memories We Have"


Oversea's jobs and immigration issues are just excuses...........

They're not excuses, they are realities. 

We are so damn hypocritical when it comes to over sea's jobs and immigration it Flipping kills me!!!!


Oversea's job's?


If people don't want to see oversea's manufacturing ............easy solution.......


DON"T BUY ALL THE CHEAPEST OVERSEA"S CRAP YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON!!!!  (and yeah to save  10cents)

It's not possible anymore or I would.

Or


HOW ABOUT IF "AMERICA" COULD ACTUALLY MANUFACTURER OR PRODUCE DOMESTIC PRODUCTS WITH ANY QUALITY!!!


Let alone do it competitively.

We can. All we have to do is stop giving tax breaks to companies for shipping jobs overseas.

Besides guitars of course....................

Sorry, I'm not buying that one. The best guitar I ever owned was a Japanese made Fender Strat. She's 26 years old and still plays like the day I bought her.

Immigration issues?.......................



WOW, really ? I suppose all of the Caucasians I see around my town are natives?

Yeah, most of them.

Yeah right.................Their  forefathers came over here in boats and they took what ever job they could,worked hard,saved and were thankful for the oppurtunity.

Stop living in the past. Every culture on the planet has it routes somewhere else. I'm tired of the whole 'white guilt' thing.

Sound familiar? 

They would be ashamed of us now.

I welcome anybody that wants to work hard and better themselves.

We as 'Americans" have taken so much for granted   It is truly sad............

You gotta stop using the word we man. :) Hey! It's snowing again! Sorry, I just looked out the window and got distracted. I don't know what happened, but you are right. It seems every generation since WWII has had this increasing sense of entitlement. 

We have real issues and continually blame everyone else.

Shoot ... name one.

I call B.S.

Me too. I think.

 

Many of problems facing Americans are our own doing.

This is where I disagree with you, I think. The problems facing America was cause by a handful of people we voted in to office to take care of things while we were out trying to make a living and we didn't keep our eye on them.

We are country of "I" and "Me".........We only care about whats in it for me.

Not true. No other nation in the world is more charitable and giving than the U.S.

We have become fat, lazy.


We are glutinous.

Damn it, I forgot to turn off my web cam. ;)

We are naive to how the rest of the world actually works.

Not true, but go on ... continue.

We are rude and arrogant.

Up yours Kojak. j/k ;)

We lack discipline and respect.


We no longer have the will,gumption or drive to actually do real work.

That's because an illegal immigrant will do it for us for $1.25 an hour.

We want to be paid lots for little.

That's do to inflation. We the people have no control over that.

Our expectations for our standard of living are way to high.

You watch The House Wives Of Atlanta too much.

No one saves any money.

I do.

Everyone has to compete with the Jone's.

I could give two ****s less about what the Jones' are doing, short of something illegal that could cause me or anyone else harm.

We are crippled with personal debt.

I have no debt other than my mortgage, student loans for my wife, and normal living expenses.

We are addicted to credit..............see "We are crippled with personal debt"

I have no credit card debt, car loans, 2nd mortgage's, or anything like that.

We are energy wasters.

I have everything unplugged that may use electricity except for what I'm using.

We are addicted to fossil fuel.

It's 60 F'ING degrees in here right now because I'm trying to save money on heating. I drive a Honda Fit that gets 35mpg. To save gas I never accelerate over 1500 RPM's when I move from a stopped position, and I coast to stop signs and red lights. My truck is parked unless I need it to drive in snow, or haul something. I have a 1998 Chevy Lumina with 180,000 miles on it that my wife drives for work that actually gets pretty good mileage for a 3.0 v6.

I could go on and on................


We need to deal own problems, and have some accountability.


Everything will take care of its self.




CW will likely shut this one down.


But hey............ tried to keep it a simple unpolitical rant.

You have to stop using terms like 'we' and 'everybody' because not everyone is like that. Actually, sometimes I wish I was because I'd be a hell of a lot happier. But I wasn't raised that way.

I'm not bustin' your chops or anything, I'm just trying to give you some hope and let you see that not everyone is how you describe. Actually, most people I know are uber-conservative like I am, and it makes me stop and wonder, just who are these people you are talking about?

Thanks Randy  for input

Bub. i agree with most of what you say, but i will say that the US is consistently the LOWEST giver of overseas aid (as percentage of GDP) of any 1st world democratic country.
and i'm glad environmental stuff is hitting the US now, for example in the UK we now recycle around 40% of waste, which is less than a lot of Europe. petrol (gas) is around £6 per gallon here now ($8) - hence most of our cars do 40mpg plus.

Aw come on. Go for it! :)

Yeah like that Coke commercial:

"I'd like to teach Bapu to sing... at least one single note"

bapu


Yeah like that Coke commercial:

"I'd like to teach Bapu to sing... at least one single note"

....you too, huh?


Think that might work for me....

 

    Thanks James for the reply.

Oversea's job's?
If people don't want to see oversea's manufacturing ............easy solution.......

I'll just speak to this one point, having seen it at work first hand in my company (50,000 employees, worldwide).  Thousands of client support jobs were outsourced to Manilla, Bangalore and other points, and not one of them was a manufacturing job.  It's a simple formula really: replace domestic based employees with foreign based contractors... pay them less and give them no health care or 401K, and you, my new star executive friend, have just saved your company a ton of money, boosted profitability, and, no doubt, put yourself at the head of the line for a fat bonus and a kick upstairs. 

In most instances, the former employees are not the only losers, being joined by the company's loyal clients who now have to deal with less knowledgable staff and scripted spiels that start something like "And what can I do for you today to offer you exceptional service?" 

Thnks Bapu for keeping it lite

Thanks MGH for the reply and the Death Metal...............

Europe is kinda a model for fairly stable living right now. of course

Except for that whole Bosnia/Serbia/Kosova genocidal stuff that went on in the 1990's.

And the rest of Europe sat there and talked about it!

Hardly our proudest moment.

mgh

jamesyoyo

mgh


randy has it right. the world we live in, the best you can hope for (IMHO) is social democracy - help those who need help, fair taxes, be as environmentally good as possible. pretty bland generic stuff, but i'd rather live in the UK than in China, Cuba or even the US...i'd say Europe is kinda a model for fairly stable living right now. of course, it took 2 world wars and 2500 years of history to get us to this point!

You are kidding, Mark, right? Europe is starting to implode from the "social democracy" experiment that the US's military protection has afforded them since WWII. If you build too big of a safety net, the importance of work and production become dangerously reduced. Now European states are bloated with social engineers with an ever-decreasing class of workers to supply the money through taxes. Or perhaps you haven't seen the riots in UK, Greece, France in the last two months? Italy, Spain, Portugal not far behind, maybe even Ireland:  All folks weaned from birth on the government tit, which has now begun running out of milk. I am more fearful for Europe than anywhere else right now.

With all the US's problems (which are many), there is no better place to be.

To the OP:

As the late Erma Bombeck used to say: 
the grass is always greener over the septic tank!

erm, don't agree. that's ok. i could say that the root cause of European economic problems stem from US banks, but of course it's a global financial market to which UK banks were just as complicit. seems amazing that in a period of relative economic stability and growth George W let the US get such a massive deficit.
yes in a period of fiscal austerity belts are tightened and people will protest, but for example recent French unrest was because of a proposal to increase the retirement age from 60 to 62, hardly a major issue but that is how the French like to tell Government they're unhappy.
The Eurozone commitment means it's harder for less stable economies like Greece to micro-manage themselves, but also means they can rely on support from others like Germany. Economics is such a complicated thing though.
However i would rather live somewhere where we get more rights and protection as citizens and workers even if it costs us more in taxes.
and don't get me started on 'stability through US military protection'...needless to say i'm sure the views on that are different depending on which side of the pond you live!

anyhow, more importantly for world peace, how's  Spockpit's Revenge coming along?!

Spockpit's Revenge, soon to be retitled "Yoyo's Revenge",  is coming along quite nicely. Still waiting for a few more contributors. Your solo at the end is staying in, as it really works.


Just for the record: Congress creates the budgets in the US, not the President. And the deficit under the Democratic Congress from 06-10 is when the ballooning really happened.


And relative economic stability: you mean the period which saw two recessions (01 and 08), two wars, and a terrorist attack that caused $1T in economic damage?

Randy,I tried last night but it looks as if no one has seen what I did?