rfmann
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Notation
Hello, Has anyone had the trouble with entering notes in the staff view. My problem is that when I enter notes there are extra rests in the measure that don't belong there and I am unable to delete them. Example: 4/4 time there are 4 quarter notes. My first measure has a 1/8th note followed by three 1/4 notes ending with another 1/8th note. There should be no rests in that measure. In addition, sometimes the program will layer the note on top of the rest. Can anyone help me? Thank you in advance.
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joeh20_444
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RE: Notation
October 10, 05 3:23 PM
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Quick answer: MC's notation is not up to snuff. I tried the measure you said, and it worked, but I had to keep sliding notes around just to get it to fit. I ended up with an eighth note, a quarter note, two tied eighth notes (same as a quarter), a quarter, and an eighth. No rests. So it's possible just tougher. If you're into the notation, I'd recommend picking up a program more geared to it. Joe
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rfmann
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RE: Notation
October 10, 05 4:42 PM
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Thank you Joe, How did you tie the notes together? I looked it up on help by typing "tie" in the index and nothing turned up. Thank you again, Robert
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57Gregy
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RE: Notation
October 10, 05 9:11 PM
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If you don't put the notes in exactly the right place (it may look right to you, but the computer knows that second 1/8 note is half a milimeter to the left of exact and will put a rest in). Click and drag the notes around until it does what you want, is what Joe said, I think. The program ties the notes together itself, right, Joe? Greg
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rfmann
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RE: Notation
October 10, 05 11:53 PM
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Thank you Greg, It is a bit tricky and difficult to work with. I bought it exclusively for this "note entering feature". I want to score some of my songs and use the synths. I do not have a midi device, so I need to enter them one by one. Thanks again for everyones help on this matter. Robert
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rfmann
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RE: Notation
October 11, 05 7:37 PM
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FYI: I sent an e-mail to tech support a long time ago and they didn't give me any answers. This time around, they gave me some useful information. In order to get the notes right, you have to use "Piano Roll" to move the notes around. I assume that is what you guys meant when you said to slide around the notes. I had always been in "staff mode". Thank you again to everyone for your help. Robert
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Robomusic
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RE: Notation
October 11, 05 8:23 PM
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The piano roll will work as well, but what greg is talking about is to click and slide the staff view notes into the correct locations, if you enter a half note two 1/16th notes ect it keeps count on the fractions, slide the notes to the left and right until they are just right and the rests will fill in automatically
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joeh20_444
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RE: Notation
October 11, 05 10:01 PM
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Yeah the notes tie themselves together, it's not a manual thing. Joe
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Greek2Me
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RE: Notation
October 16, 05 5:44 PM
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If you are not math challenged, consider this Go to Options/Project and the clock tab. By default it is set to 960 (computer) ticks per quarter note (or 3840 ticks per measure). We can then calculate that an eighth note woudl be 480 ticks (half of 960), a sixteenth note is 240 ticks, a thirty-second... you get the idea. Now, go to staff view and right click any note. The first item in the dialogue box will look something like this 16:2:480 which tells you it is in the 16th measure, the second quarter note, starting at tic 480, or one eighth note over from the start of the second quarter note. Like I said, if you like math, this allows you to click a note, determine where it belongs and enter a numeric value. Greek2Me
post edited by Greek2Me - October 16, 05 5:56 PM
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thewordsmith
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Re:Notation
December 30, 11 0:08 PM
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Check the duration of each not. The duration of 1/8 notes is 480. 1/4 is 1:000. Chances are the notes do not have perfect timing.
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patmc007
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Re:Notation
December 30, 11 8:29 AM
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rfmann, if after you incorporate all of these suggetions and you still can't enter notes to your liking, the piano roll option was a great suggestion as an alternative. I find piano roll to be very intuitive and user friendly. And if you need a further level of detail, the event list can really let you micromanage your midi data.
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Guitarhacker
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Re:Notation
December 30, 11 9:17 AM
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I think you have the option to turn off the "Display rests" in staff view. I know when I work in SV I do not have rests in the view. They simply clutter the screen. Also.... yes, unless you have the snap to grid on, and have the note resolution "properly" set, it is very possible to enter an eighth note thinking it is properly places when in fact it is off my a few milliseconds. Using the quantisize will snap them into place. But that can sound too mechanical at times. When editing a part that I played manually, I will click and drag the notes. Sometimes it's difficult the place them exactly where I want. Pitch is where this is really a pain if I want a note that is NOT in the natural key of the music. BUT: in staff view, if you RIGHT CLICK the note....a note properties window opens. In that window, you can change the note pitch manually. If F & G are the key notes and you want F#, this window lets you put the note there. It also allows positioning the note in the time line to the finest tick of the music. If the note is currently at 2:03:002 ..... which is two ticks past beat 3 in measure 2...and you want it delayed a bit more.....entering 2:03:125 for example would move it far enough to the right that you would likely hear the delay better...delay from the beat of 3. all you need to do is highlight the last 3 digits generally to edit the timing. This is tedious but gives you absolute control of the note. I tend to use this at times when it is necessary to fix my horrible piano playing.
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57Gregy
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Re:Notation
December 30, 11 11:22 AM
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This thread is over 6 years old. I don't think the OP is going to respond. But thanks for trying, tws.
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Guitarhacker
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Re:Notation
December 30, 11 1:02 PM
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dang.... why drag up these old threads? Why not ask in a new one?
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