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Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
Recently I've been experimenting with various nootropics because I have some attention and focus issues and always have done (probably mild ADD, if such a thing exists). I was always a skeptic about these "smart drugs" but am finding that they actually do work. There are loads of them and they all have different effects, it's all about getting the right "stack" to work for you. Last night I took a Huperzine pill in the evening for the first time. Boy was that a mistake. ONLY take these things in the daytime. I tossed and turned for about 90 minutes unable to sleep, and these surges of terrifyingly intense focus would hit me that almost paralyzed me - I'd have to flip over to "escape" the paralysis. Then eventually when I did drop off, the "damn I can't sleep" theme persisted throughout one of the most screwed up dreams I've ever had, one of those really lucid ones full of horror that leave you traumatized in the morning. That's some powerful stuff, in my mind anyway. Took some this morning figuring it's probably the best time for it, lol. And now I do feel super focused. These things are like steroids for the brain though - no point taking them unless you plan to exercise your brain on something. Out come the PDF manuals......
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 15:48:01
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So are focused enough today to get one of those 100+ track projects completed so we can hear it?
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 15:54:57
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Just Another Bloke
So are focused enough today to get one of those 100+ track projects completed so we can hear it?
No amount of focus will turn Sonar into a fully working DAW unfortunately.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 17:13:49
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need more botox?
eta: if you're really "experimenting with various nootropics" you should at least keep a blog, or vlog for higher ad income
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 17:45:53
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I have enough trouble wading through all of the other nootropics blogs. It's one of those things where it's almost impossible to find any kind of consensus.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 17:52:37
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still, keep notes!
eta: cos like you say it's about finding the right stack or combo, but that's on top of your own makeup, so the more data available the more likely some consensus comes through
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 20:03:58
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sharke
Just Another Bloke
So are focused enough today to get one of those 100+ track projects completed so we can hear it?
No amount of focus will turn Sonar into a fully working DAW unfortunately.
There's always Reaper, Studio One, Samplitude etc. etc. etc.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 20:09:23
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Drugs, drugs drugs...
Some are good, some are bad.
Drugs, drugs, drugs...
Ask your mom or ask your dad!
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 20:52:01
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So are focused enough today to get one of those 100+ track projects completed so we can hear it?
No amount of focus will turn Sonar into a fully working DAW unfortunately.
There's always Reaper, Studio One, Samplitude etc. etc. etc.
That won't help me finish my unfinished Sonar projects. Although I'm guessing you knew that.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 20:56:35
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☄ Helpfulby Just Another Bloke 2018/02/07 21:20:36
Sounds like you need to get in on Azslow3's beta testing team; make the move to Reaper.
I must add though; as slow as I am at finishing projects, its not SONAR's fault.
T
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 21:18:03
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Yeah, I too don't understand the problem. Cripes... I'm STILL on Manchester but working uninterrrupted (by SONAR shenanigans at least).
I'm prone to freaking out in general but I'm just not seeing how this can adversely effect my music production (at least in the foreseeable future) from what I've already been doing. I long ago accepted the fact that SONAR cannot do certain things so I figured out other options. Everything in SONAR that I do use seems to work reasonably well and I enjoy the environment for what I do (which is mostly tracking and mixing these days). Unless I've been misinformed I will be able to use SONAR (and all the updates I have not yet installed) in perpetuity. The ONLY question about that which remains is whether we will receive a permanent reg code for our product(s) when/if the servers go down... which has continuously said will be the case if it comes to that... but the servers are obviously still up sooo.
Anyhoo... maybe as I age my rage synapses have eroded to the point of "meh" but logically I don't see how this stops anyone from working with SONAR. If it DID though I would certainly find my younger self and his inner angst to launch the "old man yells at cloud" equivalent of a flaming garbage can through a Starbucks window (because does Gibson really have windows...?)
alright... I may have gotten a little sarcastic there but you get my gist...
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 21:22:20
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 21:47:10
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usedtheswerewerdvershunofbuttalt+prntscrn
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 21:48:49
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sharke
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sharke
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So are focused enough today to get one of those 100+ track projects completed so we can hear it?
No amount of focus will turn Sonar into a fully working DAW unfortunately.
There's always Reaper, Studio One, Samplitude etc. etc. etc.
That won't help me finish my unfinished Sonar projects. Although I'm guessing you knew that.
 It will if you want it to.
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2018/02/07 22:01:37
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☄ Helpfulby DeeringAmps 2018/02/07 23:08:35
The trouble with finishing a project is finding someone who will listen to it.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 22:20:14
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DeeringAmps
Sounds like you need to get in on Azslow3's beta testing team; make the move to Reaper.
I must add though; as slow as I am at finishing projects, its not SONAR's fault.
T
I have Reaper and Bitwig and they are my DAW's for new projects. My current Sonar projects are just too large and complicated in terms of tracks, sound design, fx chains, routing and automation to be transferred without weeks of painstaking work.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 22:26:06
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Yeah, I too don't understand the problem. Cripes... I'm STILL on Manchester but working uninterrrupted (by SONAR shenanigans at least).
I'm prone to freaking out in general but I'm just not seeing how this can adversely effect my music production (at least in the foreseeable future) from what I've already been doing. I long ago accepted the fact that SONAR cannot do certain things so I figured out other options. Everything in SONAR that I do use seems to work reasonably well and I enjoy the environment for what I do (which is mostly tracking and mixing these days). Unless I've been misinformed I will be able to use SONAR (and all the updates I have not yet installed) in perpetuity. The ONLY question about that which remains is whether we will receive a permanent reg code for our product(s) when/if the servers go down... which has continuously said will be the case if it comes to that... but the servers are obviously still up sooo.
Anyhoo... maybe as I age my rage synapses have eroded to the point of "meh" but logically I don't see how this stops anyone from working with SONAR. If it DID though I would certainly find my younger self and his inner angst to launch the "old man yells at cloud" equivalent of a flaming garbage can through a Starbucks window (because does Gibson really have windows...?)
alright... I may have gotten a little sarcastic there but you get my gist...
Imagine a project in which plugins reset all of their settings not only when the project loads, but also while you work on the project. You can see screencasts of examples of some of this crap happening here. And that's not all of it. I also have hidden tracks unhiding themselves every now and then (I have to go back through 150+ tracks and re-hide about 50 of them), MIDI tracks legitimately disappearing into thin air, automation envelopes disappearing into thin air, certain tracks which won't show themselves in the console no matter what I do, turning on archived synths only to find that the patch I had programmed has been screwed up, clips that snap "by" instead of snapping "to" even though Snap To is selected (and no snap offset is set for the clip), automation that goes out of sync with the trap when loop points are set, and a whole host of other oddities that don't happen to me in new or relatively small Sonar projects. It's a huge mess and a nightmare to work with (although I am making very slow progress lol). I've come to truly hate the program for its bugs.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 22:27:07
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tom1
The trouble with finishing a project is finding someone who will listen to it.
LOL I don't even care about that! Just listening to it myself will be reward enough.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 23:14:38
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Are you using "Aux tracks" in the problem projects?
I haven't had the kind of issues you describe (but I don't have anything approaching 100+ tracks),
but I do have a few projects with "issues".
It seems to trace back to using Aux tracks (for instance: to keep verb and delay organized)
in the VOCAL, GUITAR folders.
Just curious.
T
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 23:33:53
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DeeringAmps
Are you using "Aux tracks" in the problem projects?
I haven't had the kind of issues you describe (but I don't have anything approaching 100+ tracks),
but I do have a few projects with "issues".
It seems to trace back to using Aux tracks (for instance: to keep verb and delay organized)
in the VOCAL, GUITAR folders.
Just curious.
T
Actually I only have one aux track in this project, but the problems started before it was introduced (and indeed these problems have been reported many times by others and predate aux tracks). I believe Sonar has serious MIDI issues, in that MIDI messages end up in places they're not supposed to, and I've seen this happen when doing seemingly innocuous things like starting and stopping the transport, as well as soloing and muting tracks. A few times I've been in situations in which hitting mute or solo on a track would actually trigger a drum hit on a completely unrelated drum synth track. It's weird as hell and almost impossible to pin down! And believe me I've tried - I've spent dozens upon dozens of hours, entire evenings, trying to formulate recipes and work out exactly what's happening. I have seen problems with aux tracks as well though.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 23:35:48
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Oh and another tidbit - Noel has said in the past that previous problems with plugins losing their settings have been due to their implementation of ARA. He didn't say exactly what, but I suspect it has something to do with the timeline and the transport, and mix in a bit of controller/MIDI data oddity.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/07 23:36:02
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Ya. I've had issues but not like that.
Sometimes weird crap goes down and I just restart the program.
Most of my issues come from jamming a project with too many takes/comp edits without cleaning them up and/or too many tracks with too many plugins.
Other programs seem to handle that type of thing better but really... I try to KIS(S*) these days. Seems to work out better in the long run.
*IR teh stoopid one in this example... must control the inner spazz puppy
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2018/02/07 23:37:14
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This thread has moved to fast for me. I think I'm gonna shutupandplaymytuna.
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/08 00:50:35
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Beepster
Ya. I've had issues but not like that.
Sometimes weird crap goes down and I just restart the program.
Most of my issues come from jamming a project with too many takes/comp edits without cleaning them up and/or too many tracks with too many plugins.
Other programs seem to handle that type of thing better but really... I try to KIS(S*) these days. Seems to work out better in the long run.
*IR teh stoopid one in this example... must control the inner spazz puppy
I wish I could do that. I wouldn't mind restarting at all if it meant the weirdness would end. Unfortunately for me it happens as soon as the project loads
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/08 01:28:56
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sharke
Beepster
Ya. I've had issues but not like that.
Sometimes weird crap goes down and I just restart the program.
Most of my issues come from jamming a project with too many takes/comp edits without cleaning them up and/or too many tracks with too many plugins.
Other programs seem to handle that type of thing better but really... I try to KIS(S*) these days. Seems to work out better in the long run.
*IR teh stoopid one in this example... must control the inner spazz puppy
I wish I could do that. I wouldn't mind restarting at all if it meant the weirdness would end. Unfortunately for me it happens as soon as the project loads
Sounds like you got some toxic shiz loading, sharke-o. Again I would normally just revert back to a stable project but in your case (based on minimal info and assuming reverting would lose too much work) I would attempt a Safe Mode load of SONAR and do the ole dance of "find the crashy plug that seems to hate SONAR". Then... because I'm obstinate about how I like things to sound... I would concoct an evil scheme to preserve whatever the crap it was I did to strangle choke my project... just to be an arsehole... to that specific plug... that was being an arsehole to me. /stable genius
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Re: Note to self: do not take 200mcg of Huperzine before bed
2018/02/08 02:36:44
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sharke
Oh and another tidbit - Noel has said in the past that previous problems with plugins losing their settings have been due to their implementation of ARA. He didn't say exactly what, but I suspect it has something to do with the timeline and the transport, and mix in a bit of controller/MIDI data oddity.
Just brainstorming here... Does the settings-lost issue only apply to vst3 plugins, or is it across the board? I've had to ditch a few vst3's in favour of vst2's because they don't behave. Also, your MIDI interface - have you tried using a different one (I'm wondering if there's a driver issue maybe causing some issue somewhere, if indeed it has a proprietry driver rather than a standard class compliant one). M.
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2018/02/08 03:00:54
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Beepster
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Ya. I've had issues but not like that.
Sometimes weird crap goes down and I just restart the program.
Most of my issues come from jamming a project with too many takes/comp edits without cleaning them up and/or too many tracks with too many plugins.
Other programs seem to handle that type of thing better but really... I try to KIS(S*) these days. Seems to work out better in the long run.
*IR teh stoopid one in this example... must control the inner spazz puppy
I wish I could do that. I wouldn't mind restarting at all if it meant the weirdness would end. Unfortunately for me it happens as soon as the project loads
Sounds like you got some toxic shiz loading, sharke-o. Again I would normally just revert back to a stable project but in your case (based on minimal info and assuming reverting would lose too much work) I would attempt a Safe Mode load of SONAR and do the ole dance of "find the crashy plug that seems to hate SONAR".
Then... because I'm obstinate about how I like things to sound... I would concoct an evil scheme to preserve whatever the crap it was I did to strangle choke my project... just to be an arsehole... to that specific plug... that was being an arsehole to me.
/stable genius
It has nothing to do with plugins crashing or stability though (although I do have stability problems in large projects - Sonar sometimes crashes while looping sections). I would estimate there is probably 200+ plugins in this project, so even if the problem was a plugin crashing, doing the whole safe mode thing would be a gargantuan task.
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2018/02/08 03:03:22
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sharke
Oh and another tidbit - Noel has said in the past that previous problems with plugins losing their settings have been due to their implementation of ARA. He didn't say exactly what, but I suspect it has something to do with the timeline and the transport, and mix in a bit of controller/MIDI data oddity.
Just brainstorming here...
Does the settings-lost issue only apply to vst3 plugins, or is it across the board? I've had to ditch a few vst3's in favour of vst2's because they don't behave.
Also, your MIDI interface - have you tried using a different one (I'm wondering if there's a driver issue maybe causing some issue somewhere, if indeed it has a proprietry driver rather than a standard class compliant one).
M.
It's mainly VST3 plugins I think although I've seen VST2 synths lose their settings as well (as well as some of my NI plugins which I think are VST2). By MIDI interface do you mean my controller? I actually disconnected that in case it was causing problems but it didn't help. Also, if what Noel said was true about ARA being the source of these problems, I guess interfaces wouldn't matter.
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2018/02/08 03:20:32
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All I can say then is... these are the risks we run whilst ramming our kit with all sorts of whatever on large amounts of tracks.
Then there does unfortunately come a point where things start saying "nope".
Sadly that point does seem to come far sooner in SONAR than it does in (some) other platforms. That's why I use it with care.
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Yeah it's definitely a very fragile platform, and it has some serious issues that manifest in large and/or long running projects that have been worked on across successive updates. I've definitely pissed some people off by talking openly about these problems, primarily because they never experienced them in their projects and didn't like anyone tainting their view of Sonar as the "best DAW in history, ever." I honestly think it's probably a great DAW for working with traditional band recording setups, and I get the feeling that's what the vast majority of users do with it. Someone asked the question on the Facebook group a while ago, "how many tracks do you typically have in a session," and a lot of people answered. The average seemed to be in the region of 10-30 tracks with most people saying "just the usual stuff - guitar, drums, bass, maybe a drum VST and a synth pad." Sonar handles that pretty well. Here's one of mine zoomed out, as you can see there is a lot of stuff going on (this is with all of the MIDI tracks hidden except a handful), about 20 minutes worth of timeline.  I've noticed as a rule of thumb that when I start to get irritated by the length of time it takes Sonar to save a project (i.e. there's no quick CTRL-S and continue with what you were doing, you have to sit back and wait a while), that's about when the project starts to become troublesome. It's not exactly as if it's taxing my CPU too much either - I mean each of these tracks have upwards of 5 or 6 plugins on them (maybe more), but my CPU meters are showing just over 50% (mind you, with maximum buffer size). But really, in the realm of electronica, this kind of project size is typical. It's not as if all the tracks are playing at once, there's just a lot of sounds throughout the project. I'm convinced that it's when you have a lot of MIDI and automation flying around, that's when Sonar starts getting confused and sending signals where they shouldn't be.
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