Nothin To Do... reodo

I redid the drum tracks and I won't pretend that its the ideal track but HOPEFULLY its a better fit than the original.  I also incorporated most if not all the mix changes suggested, except I can't put any grit into my voice
 
I would appreciate any comments or feedback that I'm actually learning something.  I'm still restricted primarily to drum loops but I'm committed to learning how you use a drum program and thanks again for all the wonderful help.  Everyone is really been a big help to me these past few years.  Thank you all.
 
Daryl
 
We Aint Got Nothin To Do  (new drums and mix changes)
 
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=582907&songID=11468383

awesome as usual!  Very clean sound, very catchy tune!

Great vocals Daryl!!

Thanks guys.... I didn't hear any negatives on the drums... I hope that's a good sign

Daryl

sorry, I have to agree with James... the drums sound great... they just don't feel quite right... the song swings, but the drums are straightt... aside from that, I love the song arrangement/production... guitars & vocals shine... love the stops too... 

 Great job.

Mix sounds great even on lappy speakers - I'd be happy if I knew how to even get close to that. Quickly scanning the other posts, I see that you are contemplating Superior Drummer. It's a really good prog imho, but if you go for it, buy ezdrummer first and then upgrade - usually works out way cheaper - they have offers all the time for upgrading. You also get a lot of midi loops included which are easy to tweak to taste. Rather than start form scratch I usually find something close and just modify it with my own touches / fills etc. It's not as difficult as it might seem once you see it in front of you and remember that the drummer usually only has two hands.

As I have come to expect a great tune, cool guitar, sweet vocal, well recorded nice balanced mix, everything is swinging.

Well nearly everything and I do not have to what say do I?  Though much better with this production.

There is always EZdrummer as an alternative to Superior Drummer same stable with some cool looking mix tools.

what Kenny said.

curious as to what was the sequence (order) of this recording Daryl?


I mean what was the order of instruments laid down. like did you play a guit part and then add drums or vica versa?
It sounds to me like the drums were like an afterthought. I know you keep saying that you don't do drums but you said they are loops, so, I just sort of can't figure out the dilemma. 

Good comments and very astute observations.  Normally I laydown a rhythm track, even if I'm not intending to use the track and I do this with a straight beat just to keep me on time, then I try to find a workable drum track to record the bass to.  I just couldn't find the right drum beat either before or after recording so it's actually a little of both.  I did the drums first and AND before and After I searched for a workable drum track... but have come up short.

Drum programmin is in my future for sure.  - Daryl

Tim,  You're right on.  I have had a few cases where changing the drum pattern resulted in something very nice and unexpected, but for most part you are right.  I tend to record often with a straight beat, then I get the rhythm and the bass doing what I want, in time, then I struggle to find the right beat for the rhythm.  I've had some luck adding midi beats with the keyboard, which can alway be easily synched up with the music.  My main problem is that I don't have good sense of what the drums should be doing, with all the various components.  I spend years working with some very good drummers, but like an idiot I just took what they did as a whole and never gave any real thought to how the were formulating the total package.  Consequently, I have a hard time even when listening to records, identifying just what they are doing.  I love good drumming, but I aways consider as a whole, either I like or I don't, or I'm indifferent.  Again, that has cost me the ability to understand as well as should, and especially in light of all the years I worked with my drummer friends.  Now I'm paying the price.

I wish I could find a program that would apply a whole set of drums, rather than me programming kick, snare, etc.  Is that how any of those programs work?  I need all the help I can get.

Thanks for the input, your 2 cents worth is probably more like $100. 

Nothing wrong with loops. I don't use um, but lots of people do. I think your mix sounds pretty good on the ear buds? :-) This would be much better with a drummer though. Yoyo is a damn fine drum programmer, you could learn a lot by listening carefully to his drums.
 
Or even take some old Alman Bros and listen to what their drummer did? Since that's kind of the style you have going here.