AnsweredNotion 6 - Revisiting as a host

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Notion 6 - Revisiting as a host

Notion 6 has received updates since I last spent time with it and I just spent the last couple of hours tinkering with it and got more impressed as I went. Initially I had been using it for its default instruments and, for someone who only RTFM when I hit brick walls, things like drums are not the most intuitive. I ended up revisiting the VST plugin manager, and found that you can now simply hunt down and add *.dll files to it and they add without issues. The help files say it automatically hunts down and adds VSTs from your default (registry) VST plugin path, but it doesn't (and that may actually be a good thing, since I want to navigate finding them without a massive list). Quick note: 64-bit Notion can only host 64-bit VST2 plugins.
 
I never thought to use Notion 6 as a host before, but in the drum frustration, I added Geist to the plugin manager and it loaded without issues. A nice side-effect for me is that I tend to work with onboard audio unless tracking, and Geist requires ASIO... unless it is inside a host.... and Notion 6 hosts it nicely and uses onboard audio nicely as well. Geist can then be used in pseudo-standalone mode ("Song mode" inside of Notion 6), so all work can be done there and Notion 6 simply triggers the whole shebang. Another upside is that everything can be saved within Geist, so Notion can be taken out of the loop later on.
 
After putting in a quick acoustic guitar riff, I ended up revisiting the plugin manager and added Heavier 7 Strings and TH3 to it, then went into the Score Setup and replaced the acoustic guitar with H7S and added TH3 as an effect (the best navigation to VST(i)s I found is from the Mixer view inside Notion 6). Overall was quick once I got exposed to that. Exported audio from the whole thing and went without a hitch.
 
Final test... tried to send to Studio One Pro, and got the popup that "can do this, but Studio One is not running"... so launched S1P, tried again, same loop. No data was sent from Notion 6 to Studio One Pro at all, even with both programs actively running in tandem. At that point I realized why I never got into Notion 6 before, but now that I realize Notion 6 can host on its own, I will need to revisit this issue.
 
Bottom line - Notion 6 has some nice hosting capability. The plugin manager, Score Setup, and Mixer View are very helpful for both work flow and program navigation.
 
[I will have to revisit why Notion 6 and Studio One Pro seem to be oblivious of each other, as that is a significant issue to me.]
 

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Re: Notion 6 - Revisiting as a host 2018/01/01 02:13:32 (permalink) ☼ Best Answerby mettelus 2018/01/01 07:06:00
This is a good post/thread on SO3-N6 interop.  There is more than one way to configure, so it's worth looking at
 
https://forums.presonus.c....php?f=167&t=20634

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Re: Notion 6 - Revisiting as a host 2018/01/01 07:18:36 (permalink)
Hey Bob, thank you for that. I was only missing the network setting in S1P, but that was all it took to tank it out. I just did a quick check to see what Notion sends to Studio One and the notes options sends the VSTi and notes, but not the VSTi parameters (or FX used). I still need to check this out in more detail, but this may simply turn into remembering to save VSTi presets religiously. For composition purposes, I am appreciating the notation view more and more. It will be interesting to see where this integration goes in the future.

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Re: Notion 6 - Revisiting as a host 2018/01/01 12:37:52 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby abacab 2018/01/08 18:04:49
It would be really sweet to see a Notion score pop up for editing a MIDI clip in SO.  I think these guys have set themselves up pretty good for future functionality in this area. 
 

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