Novation Zero SL MKII anyone?

Actually, I have an additional question:

If I'm using an automapped plugin on a track to be controlled by the Novation device, can I also control it with another controller with ACT? Will ACT still have access to the controls on the plugin window even though they have the Automap wrapper on them?

He he, cool.

Does he use it with Sonar?

Hey Drewfx1!

Thanks for your input. That sounds pretty good. I was thinking that I could use the Zero with Automap when I am doing all the Edits, mix, tweaks, etc and when I'm at my Axiom to actually record something MIDI I can use that with ACT. If Automap and ACT work without trouble side by side then I'm pretty close to take my credit card for a walk to the music gear store.
 
Build Quality, I have had a look at this hardware before and although it's very plasticy it's still rugged enough for me. It's not a System 5 MC but it doesn't cost that much either

Thanks Bysbox1!

I'm not getting the keyboard version. I'm very happy with my Axiom and at this point I couldn't get rid of it anyway. Got it too customised to wanting to begin that all over again And the longer faders on the Zero is the most atracting part actually.

But thanks for your input. To hear of experiences with this and Sonar is what I'm after[;]

I have the keyboard and it sort of works with ACT, in other words the displays aren't always correct. Automap was great until Sonar development outstripped the templates that were available. They have been promising an update for almost a year and nothing as of a couple of months ago.

If someone is ambitious and cobbles together a template for Automap, Novation has a user sharing site where it can be posted.  

EJ

@Bentedgz - Thanks for your input! The template you're talking about, is that the mixer template thing? Not working anymore? I suppose Pro Channel is out of the loop there? Got any specifics? This is actually important info to me and I would really appreciate some details on this if you don't mind

@Adrian4u - No secret that you hate ACT my friend I've actually had a satisfying experience with ACT so far. It's limited but sure is nice to have those knobs working. But the lack of visual feedback on my Axiom does make it somewhat old school. I want to continue using ACT for when I'm on my Keyboard just for minor adjustments like volume, some filters, presets, transport etc for which ACT has never let me down. I agree with you on the MIDI mapping in Live, it's ace! But it's just old school MIDI mapping and not dynamic which is an advantage ACT has - and that Automap has - and this is really appealing. I want my knobs to do a lot of things Thanks for your input tho, you're slowly pushing me over the edge here towards a purchace!


But still wondering, when I've wrapped my VSTs, when I open an old project, do I have to replace all my VSTs with the wrapped ones or does it do that automagically?
 
And come to think of it, how does the Novation controllers work with Pro Channel? If that's smooth sailing (after setup perhaps) then I'm sold!!

Hey TabSel!


That's great news!! So you're saying that I should put the wrapped VSTs into it's own folder and steer Sonar to scan the "wrapped" folder? Then the 100's of thousands of VSTs I have in each project will load all wrapped up in my existing projects? It's almost too good to be true Or will the wrapped ones always be the first ones scanned so I can leave wrapped and original in Sonars default VST folder?


Thanks for the info man, made my weekend and will probably empty my wallet too...!

ProjectM  - I don't like ACT, because it has serious limitations, moreover to see what you editing - you have to click at Control Surface ACT propertes all the time.
In Automap you just have to push one button.

But - I use BCR2000 in custom "ACT" Control Surface - made by AJ. I have access to all the controls in ProChannel (X1c), I have access to track, busses, main outputs... But even this CS is much better than ACT - it allows you to use 32knobs at the same time, and it has MIDI feedback, it's little bit messy.
But it's worth to have together with BCR2000.

Never tested with Prochannel because I have it in BCR2000 with AJ plugin.
Theres another user here who is in the middle of writing custom script for BCR2000, even more tricky and much better than ACT.

I use Nocturn for tweaking plugins, especially when NO OTHER device gives me full access to all controls.

Hey Jeff!!


Thanks for that - you're qiute the Novation fan, aren't ya?

But I appreciate your input here. A small downer that I have to reload all the plugins tho, as I would have wanted this control surface to aid me in a current project that is huge!

I would imagine that Pro Channel is not Automapable. But is it not accessable from the controller in the normal "mixer" mode at all? It have to be through the advanced mode? And how do you find that in use? Is it annoying?

OK I think I understand this now. When I get the device I might shout out for some help But it looks like it will be relatively painless - and usefull - as long as I am prepared and take the neccesary precausions. Excluding the "normal" ones in Sonar seem like a good idea.

Just one final question - is there any issues with automap and 64-bit plugins on a totally 64-bit system with the occasional 32-bit favourite?

Jackel - AKAI kontrolers are the worst money for features buy. Personally I don't like keyboard action, pure imitation of pads, and definetly - price. For me Novation are much, much better in any aspect. I also have no problems with Automap 4, but I have issue with Nocturn tabletop itself. I have USED Nocturn and sometimes, some knobs response with value jumps. I will try to clean pots, it should help.

Hey!


OK, I ended up taking the plunge today, even though I swore I'd wait until february But here it is, my brand new Remote Zero SL MKII

BUT, I can't get the top row endless encodere to do anything. The encoder rings show the value from whatever is highlighted but when I turn the encoder it self it doesn't do anything. Some plugs have a small jitter on the corresponding control but that's about it. Mostly nothing happens. Faders and the second row encoders seem to work fine. Any ideas what might be wrong? I couldn't get them to work in Live or Reason 5 either - although in Live, I can use them in the non-Automap mode so the hardware seem to be working. I've tried reloading the Automap template, device OS etc but to no avail.

Any suggestions to this?


Thanks

Hey Drewfx1!


Thanks for that. Eehh... you wouldn't happen to know they they should be set at? They are in Normal Mode with Min=0, From=0, PointsxSize= 101x1.00, To=100, Max=100

Tried inverting with the same values (inverted of course) and Increment/Decrement mode. No change...

ProjectM


Hey Drewfx1!


Thanks for that. Eehh... you wouldn't happen to know they they should be set at? They are in Normal Mode with Min=0, From=0, PointsxSize= 101x1.00, To=100, Max=100

Tried inverting with the same values (inverted of course) and Increment/Decrement mode. No change...

That's odd. I would think those settings should do something. What are they set to control?

Maybe compare and match all of the settings to be the same as a control that's working (you can assign 2 controls to the same thing)?

you wouldn't happen to know they they should be set at?

You can play with those things to get different behaviors - for instance a button can be set up as on/off, or momentary, or to step through values, and stuff like that.