Nowtime marker and counter stops suddenly after a few seconds

Hi Johannes,

What clock source do you have selected? Check the Clock tab on Options-Project
Sounds like you are using SMPTE/MMC with an offset.

Best regards,
Luis

Just curious - what is the rationale for choosing between audio and internal as the clock source? In what circumstances is audio the correct choice and vice versa?

Hi Christopher,

Internal - for projects containing only MIDI (no audio).
Audio - for projects contain MIDI and audio, or only audio.

You can get the details in Sonar's Help. Search for "clock source".

Best regards,
Luis

ORIGINAL: hanni.hanni

Hi,

... with the setting "Internal" it is working with all my audio projects.

Wow! That is not normal. But, nevertheless, I am glad to know you are back to work.

Regards,
Luis

You guys are my heros!!!! I had the very same problem and I've been bouncing from forum to forum to get it fixed....and now it is!!!!!

Thanks big time.

Sonar will change it to internal on its own when audio is selected and visa versa. Theres no need to switch them on your own
Cj

Hi Marcus,

"If I import an Audio file it switches my Clock to "Audio" ..." - That is the normal behavior.
What I don't think is normal is that you have to switch to Internal.

Just an idea:
1. Run the Wave Profile.
2. Check in General tab of Options-Audio what you have set as the "Playback Timing Master" and what can you choose there. How many soundcards have you got? Is the motherboard's built in soundcard disabled in BIOS?

Regards,
Luis

I still have the same problem Hanni Hanni did. Everytime I import audio it changes back to "Audio" clock which I understand it should anyway.BUT when it does the marker and now time freeze but still able to record and hear everything. I can switch it back to "internal" every time I go to record but that is not how it should be done.

I have the 1.82 drivers for my 0404Pci card. I recall before when I was having conflicting driver issues in which I had a previously installed Audigy 2 that it's driver output was showing up in the "Record Latency Adjustment" area as the Device and I had no problem at that time with the freezing. Of course now that the drivers have been cleaned out and I did a "Virgin" install the Audigy drivers are gone and the freezing is back. E-MU ASIO (4in-1out) is the device now which I'm sure should be correct.

I have Reaper 2 and all works great in that program so it must be something to do with the way my sound card is set up in Sonar. Is ther a way to "reset" the defaults in the Audio preferences?

Any help would be greatfull.

Thanks,

Hi Chris, I have tried to install the older Beta 2's and the new ones that came out on the 11th countless times. All I kept getting was BSOD as the drivers are being installed Yet the 1.82's install fine. I've tried "virgin install" and everything I could think of but still BSOD. There isn't even a code or line break on anything on the screen...just blue! I'm fed up with spending hours to get it to work with the new "beta" drivers.

I honestly feel it's in my settings that need tweeking. If anyone has the 0404pci running in Sonar 6.2.1 please send me your settings in the Audio Options tabs.

That would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

Ok...tried the reinstall thing again...yup...BSOD with no message. No keyboard stroke would do anything. Hard drive activity was zero for 15 minutes. After rebooting I looked at the PatchMix About screen and noticed that Driver version 6.xxxx was there. The PatchMix error message said it didn't find enough E-MU hardware. The speaker Properties tab is missing the Levels tab. I installed the PatchMix of the Sept 11 release and rebooted. Same PatchMix error and same missing tab Driver version reverted back to 5.xxxx.

E-MU knowledge base has nothing on BSOD that Icould find.

Thank god for Restore points....rolling back to 1.82 (again).

Thanks for sending your Sonar settings...tried them and still no change. I noticed you don't have Vista (check box greyed out in screen shot) I'm using ASIO drivers.

I've sent a Support request to E-MU. These latest drivers had a number to call if you had problems so I'm assuming they are supported. And of course it's not a toll free number.

I'm begining to really like Reaper....sorry!

Thanks for all your effort Chris....very much appreciated.

From the help file of Sonar 6 PE

Choosing Clock Sources: SONAR as Master

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When SONAR is used alone, or with an external device that does not have its own clock or timing signal, you use one of two clock sources: Internal or Audio.

When the clock source is set to Internal, SONAR uses the clock built into the computer or the computer's MIDI interface as its timing source. If your projects contain only MIDI (no audio), this is the most efficient method of playback.

If your projects contain MIDI and audio, or only audio, you should set the clock source to Audio. This lets the sound card clock determine the correct speed for audio playback and automatically synchronizes MIDI playback to match the audio. For more information, see System Configuration. You cannot use the tempo ratio controls when using the audio clock, because the audio playback speed is determined by the audio clock.

When either of these clock sources is used, you can also configure SONAR to drive other MIDI devices using MIDI Synchronization. For more information, see MIDI Synchronization. If you need to send MIDI Time Code (MTC), SONAR will send this data regardless of the clock setting.

To Use the Internal Clock Source
Click on the Sync toolbar.
OR
Choose Options-Project, and click the Clock tab.
Check the Internal box.
Click OK.
To Use the Audio Clock Source
Click on the Sync toolbar.
OR
Choose Options-Project, and click the Clock tab.
Check the Audio box.
Click OK.


Best
John

ORIGINAL: John

From the help file of Sonar 6 PE

Choosing Clock Sources: SONAR as Master

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

When SONAR is used alone, or with an external device that does not have its own clock or timing signal, you use one of two clock sources: Internal or Audio.

When the clock source is set to Internal, SONAR uses the clock built into the computer or the computer's MIDI interface as its timing source. If your projects contain only MIDI (no audio), this is the most efficient method of playback.

If your projects contain MIDI and audio, or only audio, you should set the clock source to Audio. This lets the sound card clock determine the correct speed for audio playback and automatically synchronizes MIDI playback to match the audio. For more information, see System Configuration. You cannot use the tempo ratio controls when using the audio clock, because the audio playback speed is determined by the audio clock.

When either of these clock sources is used, you can also configure SONAR to drive other MIDI devices using MIDI Synchronization. For more information, see MIDI Synchronization. If you need to send MIDI Time Code (MTC), SONAR will send this data regardless of the clock setting.

To Use the Internal Clock Source
Click on the Sync toolbar.
OR
Choose Options-Project, and click the Clock tab.
Check the Internal box.
Click OK.
To Use the Audio Clock Source
Click on the Sync toolbar.
OR
Choose Options-Project, and click the Clock tab.
Check the Audio box.
Click OK.


Best
John

Thanks John, yes the concept of internal and external syncing I did understand before but the thing that is kicking my butt is why the "Now Time" stops after a beat or two while "Audio" is being used. If I switch it back to "Internal" even with audio files in my project it works fine. Then if I add another audio file it goes back to "Audio" as it should but "Now Time" freezes again. I can still record and hear everything ....I just can't visually see where I am in the project. And I know some "Smart Ass" is going to suggest "listening" to where I am but I like to "See" it too.

Thanks for your input....much appreciated!

Hey Chris, I deselected the drivers and restarted and Sonar and the now time works just fine in "Audio" so it appears maybe the drivers are "not happy" in Sonar. As I said in one of my posts Reaper works just fine. I must admit I've been using Reaper for a few days now and it's very impressive especially for the price.

As far as the log goes....ah...where do I find it? I've done a lot of things on my computer but that is not one of them! Give me a full name for it because I did a search for "log" and got more results than you can shake a stick at.

Thanks,

Hi Chris, I reinstalled Vista (felt it was due anyway) and installed latest Sept 11 drivers with out any problems what so ever. I still have to install Sonar and all my apps again but I'm sure my problems are solved.

Sometimes it's nice to start clean!!!!

Thanks for your help!

John, how do i deal with the tempo ratio controls? what do I need to do sir?