Nudge - why is it so limited?

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2016/11/01 19:03:34 (permalink)
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Nudge - why is it so limited?

I see no reason why I cannot set nudge "1" or "2" or "3" to any number of measures all notes I want. Currently it is just ONE measure or ONE note, while time units are bot limited.
 
Make nudge more versatile !
post edited by Afrodrum - 2016/11/02 14:41:48

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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/01 19:34:15 (permalink)
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    Maybe you're overlooking that Preferences allow you to set nudge in units as small as ticks and samples, or using time units.  I just set nudge 2 to 121 seconds and nudge 3 in ticks to 9600 which is 10 quarter notes.
     
    If you haven't visited this part of the application, go to Edit > Preferences > (make sure 'advanced' is checked at the bottom of the dialog) then select Nudge under Customization.  Does that help?
     
    Edit: I forgot to mention that some of the numbers will only increment/decrement using +/- controls.  That's pretty dumb, but it is what it is.

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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/01 21:17:29 (permalink)
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    Maybe you're overlooking that Preferences allow you to set nudge in units as small as ticks and samples, or using time units.  I just set nudge 2 to 121 seconds and nudge 3 in ticks to 9600 which is 10 quarter notes.
     
    If you haven't visited this part of the application, go to Edit > Preferences > (make sure 'advanced' is checked at the bottom of the dialog) then select Nudge under Customization.  Does that help?
     
    Edit: I forgot to mention that some of the numbers will only increment/decrement using +/- controls.  That's pretty dumb, but it is what it is.



    Seconds and samples are fine but try to set up Nudge to 4 or 8 measures (or more).

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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/01 21:35:45 (permalink)
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    Afrodrum
     
    Seconds and samples are fine but try to set up Nudge to 4 or 8 measures (or more).



    Why? That's what cut n paste or click and drag is for.. Nudge means, well nudge, not move to the next county.
     
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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/01 22:43:39 (permalink)
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    Yeah, I was going to say moving 4 to 8 measures is more like a drop kick than a nudge.  If you really want to nudge a clip 4 measures set your preferences for 15360 ticks in 4/4 time.
     
    As Gabo suggested, the nudge function is meant for little moves you might do frequently.  I might set 1/4 note, and I could see myself clicking three times, but it's more likely I would drag and drop to a snap point. In truth, I've never set my nudge that high.

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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/02 07:55:19 (permalink)
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    Or hit nudge one measure 4 times (which is what I do).

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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/02 14:38:47 (permalink)
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    Or hit nudge one measure 4 times (which is what I do).

     
    An overkill solution when you need to nudge 32 measures
     
    ricoskyl
    Yeah, I was going to say moving 4 to 8 measures is more like a drop kick than a nudge.  If you really want to nudge a clip 4 measures set your preferences for 15360 ticks in 4/4 time.
     
    As Gabo suggested, the nudge function is meant for little moves you might do frequently.  I might set 1/4 note, and I could see myself clicking three times, but it's more likely I would drag and drop to a snap point. In truth, I've never set my nudge that high.



    Well, nudge means MOVE and it should be equally easy to move a clip by a hair or to the next chorus. Cutting and pasting is a PAIN (!), I always prefer to select clip and nudge. Very useful when boundaries of a clip are not on a grid line.
     
    And you have lead me to a perfect solution. Indeed ticks are the answer. The number you gave did not work with my setup perhaps because my clock is set to 48 unlike yours, but I found the right number.
     
    So to set the nudge to:
    4 measures in 4/4 time - 768 ticks, 8 measures  - 1536 ticks and so on.
    4 measures in 6/8 time - 576 ticks, 8 measures  - 1152 ticks, etc
     
    Thanks for the great hint.

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    Re: Nudge - why it is so limited? 2016/11/02 15:40:09 (permalink)
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    And this is just a workaround. There is no reason why we can set nudge say to 500 seconds but not to 24 measures.

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