MJames4208
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OS X
Does anyone have the latest info on OS X?
I truly miss using Sonar.
I've been on a Mac since March.
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doncolga
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Same here man...I'm really looking forward to Sonar on my Macbook. I've been checking every day.
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bwhit
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Me too! I signed up for lifetime updates just to get the Mac version. In hindsight, that was probably a mistake.
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Sheanes
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If Sonar Mac will not be a succes after all.....good news is Mac/Apple like performance and gear has come to Windows / PC.
Fe, Universal Audio new line of Appollo Thunderbolt 3 is available for Windows now too, as are Windows Notebooks (and a rare Desktop) with Thunderbolt 3 port.
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Sanderxpander
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I know I shouldn't get into a Mac vs PC debate (FWIW I think OSX is mostly a good OS even if I prefer Windows), but that is just a silly statement. Generic PC hardware has always been able to outperform Mac hardware and usually for less money. Arguably since before but especially after the switch to Intel. My last laptop (5 years old) ran circles around the then current MB Pro and my current laptop easily competes even with the current Mac Pro (and is more expandable by far).
If you don't think that's the case you've probably been looking at the wrong PCs. Apple simply buys and appropriates regular PC parts, there's very little magic in there except I suppose the touch pad and the case.
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Bristol_Jonesey
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bwhit
Me too! I signed up for lifetime updates just to get the Mac version. In hindsight, that was probably a mistake.
Why do you say that?
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tlw
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Sheanes
If Sonar Mac will not be a succes after all.....good news is Mac/Apple like performance and gear has come to Windows / PC.
Fe, Universal Audio new line of Appollo Thunderbolt 3 is available for Windows now too, as are Windows Notebooks (and a rare Desktop) with Thunderbolt 3 port.
Running wifi networking at low audio latency is still a lottery on PCs. Not on Macs. Windows doesn't have built-in MIDI networking, and if it did the dpc latency wifi adaptors nearly always cause would make it somewhat less than usable unless networking were done by ethernet. On the plus side if Cake's new stuff for getting low latency out of an-board sound chips is as good as claimed, then so long as you use Sonar a PC may be able to use onboard sound as easily as a Mac can. This is something MS should have sorted out a long time ago. And Windows PCs offer more power per buck spent.
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Sanderxpander
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I keep hearing this but I've honestly never encountered this mythical wifi dpc issue. My WiFi has always been on on all my laptops and I've used over ten (vastly) different audio interfaces with them without a single issue of that kind.
That's not to say I don't like CoreAudio better because I do.
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tlw
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Mythical? Hardly. I've seen it on every PC I've had.
Switching off wifi is regularly recommended on this forum as a first step in solving a drop-out problem.
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Sanderxpander
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I know it is, that's why I find it so odd that it has never been an issue for me. I've always used Ethernet on my desktops and my three music laptops have been problemless in this regard. I know that's very anecdotal but since people keep mentioning it...
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pwalpwal
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maybe it depends on the wifi controller/chipset/driver, a la firewire?
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tlw
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It might be a chipset issue I suppose, but if it is I'd have thought someone somewhere might have identified it as such as was done years ago with firewire. Ethernet nearly always seems problem-free so it's not a problem related to Windows networking in principle but wifi drivers.
Macs don't seem to have the problem, which might point to it being a chipset issue and Apple being careful not to use chips that cause problems. Firewire on Macs is also generally free of the Windows chipset/driver issues.. Or maybe it's because OS X/MacOS simply isn't Windows and does things differently. Dpc latency of any kind doesn't seem to be an issue on Macs. Which makes me wonder if at least part of the issue is how Windows handles multi-tasking in general.
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tenfoot
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I have a dedicated studio wireless network just to run controllers for my audio gear as well as a wifi router in the back of my stage rack. It has been quite some time since wifi was an issue on Windows.
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mettelus
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The #1 issue with Win Wi-Fi issues is the "auto discovery" feature. #2 is all of the software that autoloads and begins to use an active connection.
For the average PC user, both of the above are expected (hence defaults), but for streaming functions, they become a menace.
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Sanderxpander
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FWIW, I've had Atheros, Broadcom and Intel WiFi chips in my laptops, none of which gave me any issues except that I switched an Intel chip for a Broadcom once because I wanted to run a hackintosh on that laptop and OSX didn't support the Intel one.
Anyway, I know this is a relatively common issue, I just wanted to give some perspective and show that it's not a completely universal problem.
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