OT - Beatles New "Love" CD better than modern stuff?

ORIGINAL: markmann

I just got the Beatles new CD titled "LOVE". It's sort of a mashup/remix of Beatles tracks by George Martin and his son Giles done for the Cirque du Sole. They apparently got all the individual tracks and "unbounced" everything so they could put it up in Pro tools and remix it. The sound blows all the modern pop stuff completely out of the water. I've never heard anything like it. If you like the Beatles and you're into recording, you'll find this extremely interesting and something to shoot for in terms of sound quality. Even if you don't like them much, the recording itself is just mind-boggling. Surely some people on the list have heard this by now. Why does this record sound so amazing. Is it the one inch four track quality thing? I think that's what they used for a lot of stuff up through Pepper.

I think it's just that George Martin produces music that is good or maybe just "normal". And when compared to the hammered dog $#!% they pass off as HiFi these days the contrast is very revealing. To be honest he would not have to try very hard to best most CDs made in the last 10 years.

Is it the one inch four track quality thing? I think that's what they used for a lot of stuff up through Pepper.

Umm... I think it borders on wishful thinking to say it sounds good because of four track tape. 'Love', by necessity, is an incredibly hi tech production. The amount of digital pitch shifting and time stretching on it is mind boggling. It is as digital as you like.

I would attribute it to Goerge Martin being very, very good, and having very, very good assistant engineers to work with.

Of course, there is both character and quality to a lot of the original recordings. But part of what makes Love sound as good as it does is, frankly, digital processing in Pro Tools.

Well, yeah. The original recordngs do sound good. But I don't think that's because they're from tape or anything. You can record to tape well or badly, you can record to digital well or badly.

Markman your a markmann of my own heart. Thank christ somebody else likes The Fab Four

I just got the Beatles new CD titled "LOVE". It's sort of a mashup/remix of Beatles tracks by George Martin and his son Giles done for the Cirque du Sole. They apparently got all the individual tracks and "unbounced" everything so they could put it up in Pro tools and remix it. The sound blows all the modern pop stuff completely out of the water. I've never heard anything like it. If you like the Beatles and you're into recording, you'll find this extremely interesting and something to shoot for in terms of sound quality. Even if you don't like them much, the recording itself is just mind-boggling. Surely some people on the list have heard this by now. Why does this record sound so amazing. Is it the one inch four track quality thing? I think that's what they used for a lot of stuff up through Pepper.

Scuse me, Peter, but are you saying there's a snowball's chance in hell that some self-evidentaly mentally derranged/challenged being living on planet Earth DOES NOT like them or recognize their staggering contribution to popular music??!! No, I didn't think so.

Knowing I am about to be thoroughly flamed, although I recognize their talent and contribution to music, I don't own any Beatles, nor do I plan on buying any. Just not my bag , baby.

Tim Umstead

I dunno. I first got into the Beatles several years after they broke up. My older cousins gave me Abby Road a few years earlier, but I guess I wasn't ready for it. When I was about 16, I put the album on my mom's old tube stereo. I have never been the same since. So, there is more than one context for creating a Beatle fan. I thank the Beatles for all of my interest in writing songs, and more importantly for opening up my ears to what recordings can be...

But I haven't yet heard the remixes.

Doc_DROP

Can you amagine the 60's without the Beatles. WE'd still be listening to...oh God the thought is scary

Scuse me, Peter, but are you saying there's a snowball's chance in hell that some self-evidentaly mentally derranged/challenged being living on planet Earth DOES NOT like them or recognize their staggering contribution to popular music??!! No, I didn't think so.

Can you amagine the 60's without the Beatles. WE'd still be listening to...oh God the thought is scary

Even though I am not a Beatles fan, that is something I do understand. We would be stuck in a world of "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window".
I guess my point is, you don't have to be a fan of someones music to understand the impact it has had on music.

I'm smart enough to realize that the Beatles have even influenced me by way of influencing my own musical heros. Kind of like you have to understand heavy metal would not be what it is without Black Sabbath. I play metal, love metal, but am not a huge Sabbath fan. I do understand they are basically the creators of the original sound, though.

By the way, my influences run from classical, to jazz, big band swing, prog rock, corporate rock, to thrash, prog metal, black metal, power metal, middle eastern sounding stuff. I love Celtic sounds. I'll go straight from Tori Amos to Opeth on my mp3 player. Basically, if I hear it and like it, I will listen, regardless of style. As it has been said, Good music is anything you want to hear twice.

This kind of thing can lead to some really interesting conversations about musical influence and impact.

Tim Umstead

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ORIGINAL: doc_drop
I dunno. I first got into the Beatles several years after they broke up. My older cousins gave me Abby Road a few years earlier, but I guess I wasn't ready for it. When I was about 16, I put the album on my mom's old tube stereo. I have never been the same since. So, there is more than one context for creating a Beatle fan. I thank the Beatles for all of my interest in writing songs, and more importantly for opening up my ears to what recordings can be...

But I haven't yet heard the remixes.
Doc_DROP

From the horses mouths: http://youtube.com/watch?v=WdepGKDZ5Lo

The first time I heard them was on a Sunday. My parents were driving my brother and I to the cider mill in our '59 Plymouth station wagon. "I Wanna Hold Your Hand" came on the AM radio and we were all silent through the whole song. I was thinking to myself, "WOW. I'VE GOT TO HEAR THAT AGAIN." There was a short pause and they played it again (the station was probably flooded with calls).

ORIGINAL: timumstead

Can you amagine the 60's without the Beatles. WE'd still be listening to...oh God the thought is scary

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We would be stuck in a world of "How Much Is That Doggie In The Window".
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Doggie in the Window? I don't think so.

If the Beatles never happened, I would be listening to Muddy, Lightening, Berry, Little Richard, all of the Sun Record Boys, Ray, Aretha, Mr. Brown and all of their derivatives from Costello to the Stones.

Oh wait, the Beatles did happen and yet that is what I'm still listening to.

But I'm a grumpy old coot.

Gonna get this album today. I saw the show "LOVE" in Vegas in August, and while it was okay, I was quite galvanized listen to a "mash-up" of the beatles stuff done this well. I believe Martins son did most of the work on this.

ORIGINAL: timumstead
Knowing I am about to be thoroughly flamed, although I recognize their talent and contribution to music, I don't own any Beatles, nor do I plan on buying any. Just not my bag , baby.

Tim Umstead

If this were KVR, by now we'd have seen someone post a photoshopped book cover of The Beatles Really Are My Bag Baby with your name as the author.

There's a 5.1 DVD version available of this too. Might be pretty cool!

The funny thing about Let it Be 'Naked' is that in the absence of the Phil Specter influence the absence of George Martin really stands out.
As for the Beatles; you can’t deny the amazing body of work they produced in seven short years including 27 number one hits. I was only two years old when they first appeared on the Ed Sullivan show but it didn’t take me long to catch on. As a small child in the sixties I remember my sisters playing their records all of the time. By the early seventies I was a full blown Beatle-Manic!