OT: Behringer ADA8000- to buy or not to buy!!!

I have one but have only used it in live situations to add 8 channels to my digital mixer. I believe the A/D converters are the same ones used in the M-Audio equipment but not 100% sure on that.

I love mine - it's great for the money.

Can't do SMUX though - so it's 8 channels at 44.1khz/48khz and that's it.

Kind regards

Dave Rich

If you can live with 44.1/48k, the ADA8000 is really had to beat for the $$$.
The sound quality is surprisingly good...

ORIGINAL: dontletmedrown

Please do not support a company that makes ALL of its money from completely copying other companies' designs. Behringer has NEVER made an original product that doesn't completely ripoff the internal schematics and design of another product. Some things are more important than saving a buck and this is one of them. Not trying to get all preachy here, just sharing my views and giving a little insight to why this company has a such a bad rap. They represent corporate America at its worst. Behringer is the Wal-Mart of audio. I read that Eli (owner of Behringer) is now staying out of the US to avoid getting slapped with even more lawsuits. They have lost 3 lawsuits for violating intellectual property laws (Mackie, Roland, and another I can't remember) and they still continue to ripoff more and more companies. They make more $$$ from the ripoff products they sell than they lose from the lawsuits, so to them, I guess it is worth the trouble. I think it is just wrong.

Ah, can you be more specific on what product was copied to create the ADA8000.

And do you have an opinion on what brand of Root Bear or peperoni. How about the popup toaster.

It's a good solid piece of gear. I use one in the studio for drums and vocal monitoring. I would recommend it to anyone barring the caveats of signal routing mentioned above. If you don't need to monitor the inputs via both the analog outs and the ADAT outs than it's a great buy.

Behringer lost any suites?

I live in Mackie country, I have visited the Woodinville ,Wa location on one occasion I actually spoke with their current CEO,,my good friend worked as a production tech at the Woodinville plant..........when Mackie still manufactured in the U.S.(pre- St. Louis Music aquisition)

It is my understanding that Behringer won their law suite with Mackie.


I love it ..................were sitting here in the US.......at least I am.

Its actually a bit comical, we have no problem taking native property thats not ours.....we enslave a race................put good people in intern camps....prohibit women from voting........invade other countries..............use actors as politicians................pay athletes millions........

Shun our senior citizens(whom we will all become)........created McDonalds.............live at Walmart...................live in general excess.

But Oh no!!! .........please don't buy Behringer.......their the devil !!!!!!!!

Whom, by the way has a few good products and allows the average musician at least a chance to experience music and music production...........live or studio.

If Behringer was a USA based company......no one in our borders would give a rip.........they'd be the best....were showing them.....

Its all good though.......the best thing about USA is the ability to have and express ideas and thoughts.

I almost forgot.............

Be sure and turn off your PC.............................. I think Gates may have unethically aquired a little intellectual property

Researching ths incident-- Looks like Behringer and Mackie settled out of court. Also, it looks like Behringer's mixer conatined a design flaw from the Mackie mixer. This showed that they used the exact same schematic when they built it. I'm sure you can find more info about it on google

here's another one for you- http://musicthing.blogspot.com/2005/03/behringer-website-shows-new-look.html

ORIGINAL: jcschild
hI,
its at best an ok utility peice. (good enough for mic'ing drums i guess) live.
for the money anyway.
i got a used one i will gladly dump for $100

the best out there for the money right now is the Presonus Digimax FS.
Scott
ADK

If you have an original DigiMax (pre 96k) still lingering around...
You might want to do a side-by-side comparison of noise-floor and subjective sound quality.
You may be surprised at the results...

Not that the ADA8000 is awesome...
But it's hard to beat at a shave over 2 bills.

Behringer is a rip-off company. Their products are garbage. Personally, I would never purchase a Behringer piece of gear. That;s my opinion and I don't care if its humble or not.

I have a number of Behringer pieces including the ADA800 and have never had any problem. I have had major problems, however, with Presonus, and will never buy from them again. So go figure.

Reverse engineering is a common and perfectly legal business practice and doesn't bother me in the least. Maybe if Mackie didn't 'name-brand' mark up their gear to such a ridiculous extent, or offered gear in the Behringer price range (even Tapco stuff is more expensive feature for feature, and they don't offer large Tapco mixers, for example) they wouldn't lose so much business to the 'knock-off' companies.

ORIGINAL: GC San Diego Seth

Just to add on a bit, and to reply to a question in an earlier post here about what Behringer has "copied"

ADA8000 - Presonus Digimax

VAmp - Line 6 Pod

Truth Monitors - Mackie HR824

Xenyx mixers - Mackie Onyx

And this is just a small example. Each of the Behringer products is a direct rip-off of their counterparts. I don't care about where Behringer is from, or the history of mine or their respective country. When you put money into Behringer's pockets, you take money away form companies who lead and innovate in this pro-audio industry we love so much.

i think behringer is taking very little business away from mackie. i think there are few people who are having a tough decision between Hr824 and truth monitors.

the real benefit of a company like behringer is they offer a very low price, albeit somewhat less quality version of the things they "rip off" , but it puts those products within the reach of those that cant otherwise afford them.

there are companies like this in every industry. competition is good. in many cases this forces the companies who are being "ripped off" to create a "value" line of their own products.

ORIGINAL: Duojet

ORIGINAL: GC San Diego Seth

Just to add on a bit, and to reply to a question in an earlier post here about what Behringer has "copied"

ADA8000 - Presonus Digimax

VAmp - Line 6 Pod

Truth Monitors - Mackie HR824

Xenyx mixers - Mackie Onyx

And this is just a small example. Each of the Behringer products is a direct rip-off of their counterparts. I don't care about where Behringer is from, or the history of mine or their respective country. When you put money into Behringer's pockets, you take money away form companies who lead and innovate in this pro-audio industry we love so much.

i think behringer is taking very little business away from mackie. i think there are few people who are having a tough decision between Hr824 and truth monitors.

the real benefit of a company like behringer is they offer a very low price, albeit somewhat less quality version of the things they "rip off" , but it puts those products within the reach of those that cant otherwise afford them.

there are companies like this in every industry. competition is good. in many cases this forces the companies who are being "ripped off" to create a "value" line of their own products.

Mackie also let their own products go to hell,.. they can't blame anyone else for that. Behringer makes a lot more stuff then just Mackie mixer copies stuff that Mackie won't make. If Mackie stuff were still made in USA and still good quality I would support them but they let us all down. It's not even the same leadership team anymore it's just a bunch of bean counters now and the engineers have no say.

I'm not trying to say Mackie is this or that. The point I am trying to make is that Behringer does not innovate. Their products are not unique, or are of particularly high quality. Shure, not everyone can afford high end monitors or preamps, but that doesn't make Behringer's products "good" IMO. To me, its not about the price, but rather what a product is worth, and its overall value to you. If eight mic preamps for $200 represent a good value to you, I say go for it. Just keep in mind that you won't get anything for that price other than a piece of gear that cost's roughly $25 per preamp.

BTW I am a self-admitted gear snob.

Peace

ORIGINAL: sscannon

ORIGINAL: jcschild


i got a used one i will gladly dump for $100

I'll take it. email me at sscannon at aol.com, and I'll paypal ya! Cheers!

SOLD! Thanks, Scott.

ORIGINAL: Lay In Wait

The point I am trying to make is that Behringer does not innovate.

Well then please, tell me who does.

Umm, pretty much every reputable manufaturer:

Line6 - First to come up with an alternative to guitar micing
Presonus - Interfaces that improve AD/DA with every new revision: Firepod, Firestudio, Digimax; Original tools like the Central Station and Faderport
Universal Audio - Creating combo versions of its cherished preamps and compressors (like the 2x LA2A)
Mackie - Onyx and Satellite
Digidesign - Yes, I know everyone here hates them, but their digi 002 had hardly any competition until the last year or 2
Apogee - High end converters and innovative products like the miniDAC, MiniME, and Rosetta line.

just to name a few...

Sorry, not trying to be a prick here, but you'll need to try harder than that. My issue is not so much that Behringer doesn't innovate, but that IT STEALS INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL DESIGNS FROM OTHER MANUFACTURERS. I find it strange that people who call themselves artists are okay with this. What if someone stole something you created and made a KILLING from it.

I think Americans have been taught to be so dollar-conscious that we want to pay ABSOLUTELY AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE for EVERYTHING we buy. Corporate America gets around this by hiring children in Honk Kong and Indonesia to do all of their labor so they can keep their six-figure paycheck. Why on Earth would ANYONE want to support that? Personally, I have no issue spending a little more to support my country and its workers. Sometimes MONEY is NOT always the most important thing.