OT: Help with EastWest Fab Four vst

when you say the sounds are "fussed" what do you mean exactly?
I have Fab Four and just instantiate it into 8.5 and X1 btw and just make sure its audio out is pointing to my sound devive and the midi in is my midi device

Can someone give me a step by step for setting up the Fab Four plugin in Sonar 8.5

Glyn "Fuss? do you mean Fuzz?" Yes :)

Not working - in fact it will not produce any sounds now. The standalone is good but useless as can not load a midi track?

If someone has this vst working please provide the how to steps 9I,m using the asio 2 driver) on pc i7 920 with win 7 ultimate.

Glyn, I am a newbie with all this vst and vsti stuff and I do appreciate your help


PC
PC Intel i7 920 quad core, win 7 ultimate 32/64 bit, 8 gigs RAM,
Operating System: Windows 7 64-bit
Version: 6.1 Service Pack 1
System architecture: Intel CPU Family:6, Model:10, Stepping:5 with MMX, SSE Integer, SSE FP, SSE2, SSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2
Physical processor count: 8
Processor speed: 2660 MHz
Built-in memory: 8183 MB

CAKEWALK 8.53 32/64 bit
using the 64bit Sonar 8.53
using the 64bit ver of the Fab Four vst
audio driver is ASIO 2

 I have been able to get DropZone and TTS-1 to work.
I emailed Cakewalk last week about links to tuts or video tuts on a whole list of vsti - they
said to see the simple instrument tracks tut in help. I then wrote back that some of the synths would not work (produce sound.

You said "Any VSTi should work as either a simple instrument track or with the separate audio / midi tracks. " I think I have been doing simple instrument tracks on all vsti's I have using a blank template.

You said "To acheive that do not use a simple instrument track. Insert the VSTi into Sonar and ensure the "all synth audio outputs" option is ticked." I tried this and boy did it create a lot of midi tracks. This time I used the normal template instead of the blank template. I am not sure when or what templates are to be used for what and which vsti's. Anyway did not get sound out. I am running, for now, out to my realtek speakers.

The WDM driver did not show up but the MME did and I tried that one and no sound. Under ASIO and the MME driver mode shows movement tat something is going into but nothing coming out through the speakers. I think it's something simple I am missing to do on setting it up. Least wise I know  it's not to be set as an simple instrument :)

I started a post there as you stated to do. Thanks

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Three thoughts/opinions:

-The original fuzzy sound was due to too high levels

- The Fab Four is too much for the integrated soundcard (?). With a powerful computer like that you'd need a decent soundcard that is up to the task.

- You are/were not using ASIO 2 driver, as you stated, but ASIO4ALL v.2  which is not ASIO driver at all, but a WDM-wrapper. They are totally different. ASIO is the most recommended driver and designed for low latency DAW-work, and your internal soundchip can not even use it.

Can you clarify one thing. I know you said TTS1 was working but i am not clear on the sequence of events, was it working after F4 stopped making a sound, or only when F4 was distorted?
 
Create a project and insert Fab Four and TTS1, and an Audio track with a WAV file in it.
 
If you can hear one and not the other its probably not down to the soundcard or sound card drivers but a routing issue in Sonar. Post what happens?
 
The Realtek / Asio4All combination is probably not helping but I think your problem is more fundamental. The effects of a poor sound card are likley to be latency, pops, crackels etc. rather than no sound at all.
PS - can't see the attached image (or any imageshack links form others) I think its because I am in the UAE and the govt. proxy is preventing it.

Glyn Barnes


Can you clarify one thing. I know you said TTS1 was working but i am not clear on the sequence of events, was it working after F4 stopped making a sound, or only when F4 was distorted?
 
Create a project and insert Fab Four and TTS1, and an Audio track with a WAV file in it.
 
If you can hear one and not the other its probably not down to the soundcard or sound card drivers but a routing issue in Sonar. Post what happens?
 
The Realtek / Asio4All combination is probably not helping but I think your problem is more fundamental. The effects of a poor sound card are likley to be latency, pops, crackels etc. rather than no sound at all.
PS - can't see the attached image (or any imageshack links form others) I think its because I am in the UAE and the govt. proxy is preventing it.

OK here is what happened
WASAPI does not apply when click apply
WDM/KS no sound on any of them
ASIO (the ASIO4ALLv2 wrap) no sound on any of them

MME 32BIT wav sounds good - TTS-1 sounds good - Fab Four back to the FUZZ sound.

sgotr


OK here is what happened
WASAPI does not apply when click apply
WDM/KS no sound on any of them
ASIO (the ASIO4ALLv2 wrap) no sound on any of them

MME 32BIT wav sounds good - TTS-1 sounds good - Fab Four back to the FUZZ sound.

OK - progress. Keep these settings as they are working for TTS and a WAV file, they should work for Fab Four.
 
Have you tried turning down Fab Fours output? Have you checked the meters are they peaking. From you discription it sounds like the output is too hot and distorting.

sgotr


Fab Four metters do not move at all until I add ADT then onlt to the first click line.
Before adding ADT in Fab Four Sonar's showed about 1/5th way up (both from the bottom up). When I went to ADT sonar's went about 1/2 way up - these for the track. The one on the right near bottom (master vol) only goes to the first number from the bottom with or without ADT.
And the Fab Four master vol is 3/4 the way up.

ADT ? - is that Automatic double tracking ??  is this an effect buit into Fab 4 or something you have inserted into the effects bin.
 
Fab Four, as i understand it has different instruments. Have you tried other instruments, like the drums, do they distort too?