OT: Paul McCartney The Fireman

The Fireman electric arguments by Paul McCartney just released is......

1. It’s different. Its not typical McCartney you can hardly tell its him.
2. It’s not a pop album it's an art album
3. He pours his heart out and it’s full of emotion.

This album is not bubble gum pop.

This is art. And its Paul McCartney showing his soul and pouring out all his emotions.

I can’t describe the style. Some of it is blues, some of it is heavy old led zeplinish, some of it is soft.
Overall it has a darker emotional tone than anything I’ve ever heard from him.

I ve listened to it several times and I am still trying to take it all in and analyze this album so I can’t really give a full review yet.

I know he has come out with some great albums in his career and lately some crap albums.

I assure you this……. what I am feeling and hearing here. Pure emotion and pure art, pure heart. Its genuine and genius.

Make it a part of your music collection

ORIGINAL: 35mm

Yes but it's Paul McCartney

it's Paul

What's wrong with Paul McCartney?

Who produced the CD? I would think someone other than George Martin might feel a bit intimidated by a Beatle. With that said the other factor is Geoff Emerick. With that combination is about as close to a Beatle record as you can get these days.


Hawky

I listened to samples of each track out on Amazon. It sure sounds weird. I'm a huge McCartney fan, but there is something very strange about this work. The story I heard was that he played all the instruments. No session players, just him. Got to give the guy credit for hard work.

DaveT

ORIGINAL: layer_road

ORIGINAL: 35mm

Yes but it's Paul McCartney

it's Paul

What's wrong with Paul McCartney?

He ordered the hit on Lennon.

You can read and listenhere

The Amazon product description is:

Paul McCartney's 2008 album with producer Youth. Each track written,recorded and sung in the space of one day with Paul McCartney, playing all instruments. 'The album's opener is classic rock and an instant attention grabber. A heavy guitar riff with loud drums and souring vocals, it's like nothing The Fireman have ever done before.' The Fireman are back after a ten-year break. Electric Arguments is their third and brand new studio album and it's not the album people might expect from the mysterious duo.'

One song a day (written, performed, recorded)?

I find the snippets rather weak. Nothing grabs me at all. Sorry.

It's always refreshing when artists go out of their comfort zones and do something "different". However, the music has to stand up on it's own regardless of who created it. Don't get me wrong, Paul McCartney was my favorite Beatle and he's still sort a awesome but there is nothing wonderful about this album. Art and concept album are usually a bad word and "The fireman" is no exception.

ORIGINAL: Monkey23
Art and concept album are usually a bad word and "The fireman" is no exception...

So, on that basis the following are all crap??

- Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
- Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
- The Wall
- Dark Side of the Moon
- Let it Bleed
- Dust Bowl Ballads
- Pet Sounds
- The Who Sell Out
- Tommy
- Ogdens' Nut Gone Flake
- Thick as a Brick
- Year Zero
- American Idiot

ORIGINAL: ...wicked

Oh okay, I know this project now. Yeah he's been bustin' this out for a long time now, though very rarely.

I went ahead and got it based on what I read. I like it. You can tell it's a bit of a scattershot of experiments but I like that about it. It's a left-of-center bunch of songs for sure, but they get pretty experimental and I like that a lot.

yeah wicked -- I am glad at least one person agrees with me ....


Ive been listening to it all day ....

heres some things I think you have to keep in mind when listening to this project

1. It's avante garde (spelling?) or a concept album

2 ... and i think the most important thing is to know a bit about Paul McCarney the person.... where he is in his life.... this is just my opinion..... but here it goes..... I think Paul has been lost and hurt since Linda Died.... I think .. from the biographies Ive read about him... he loves performing live.. hes basically a work acholic... now in his middle or late 60's its harder to do what he loves....he's also still looking for whats lost in his life without linda.. a little older and a little more tired... well frankly, .. a little beat up and hurt ......he had heart sugery to have stents put in last september that he kept under wraps..... I think all that is reflected in this music in this album -- just a ton of emotion.... he's searching again

3. Listen to it like you would a classical piece not a pop/rock music

the last track 13 ... starts fading in with a popular riff the beatles played a lot in hamburg germany days..... 8 hour shows.... then it goes to some chord changes....same chord changes as "while my guitar gently weeps".... then some avante garde weird stuff .... but emotional ... ends with some backwards recorded talking .. its about 10 minutes long... I think its the best one on here


I am just trying to say ... you have to listen to this with a different set of ears then what pop/rock people are used to .... there is something great here I think .... I am still trying to figure it out after listening to it all day

if you listen to "snippets" of this real fast .. its easy to dismiss it as garbage .. I know I would..... but really give it an honest listenall the way through and i think you'll agree ... you will have to listen to it more than once to really get it ... ( ia m still trying to get it) listen with an open mind and some back ground of where Paul is at in his life ...

I think then you might agree that there is somthing that is special in this album


yes he still plans on writting "regular pop" songs as always ........ fyi from an interview i read about this album

anyway .. i really dont want to start a heated argument .. if you dont like it or hate it and you made up your mind then... ok ........

I just hope you all keept an open mind before you decided that......

cheers,

Paul

Some people just don't get it.

You could also dismiss Tom Waits for some of the "arguments" above, but unless you listen to and if you're able to MAKE music for the sake of the feelings behind it, and how your music "measures up", you won't get it. There's more to a good tune than being "well produced" and the starndard 3:30 minute pop format. Just ask Robert Johnson. And as for someone like Tom Waits, he's one of those rare artists that can create a world in the space of 2 minutes. Paul is a master at it as well.

When you leave the metronome of the music buying public behind, and the meter of Billboard - and when you cease caring what other people think: you can start creating some real honest material - that I for one will cross the street for. It's the only stuff that I have time for anymore. I can tell when something is contrived. This album isn't. From what I've heard of it, it's impulsive, and that's what makes it so refreshing.

Groundbreaking? NO. But that's not the point. I find it listenable. To me, that's the fundamental point of music.

Again, some people just don't get it. But in short: I do.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention Mooch. This is on my must buy list.

I agree, Thanks mooch!!! I can say that it was the Beatles that flipped the switch that turned on my musical hunger.. I learned "Let It Be" on Piano & as they say the rest is History... I can definitely hear & feel his soul as well as relate to the incredible dynamics his Life has seen.. That's what makes for a truely great musician.... The mountains of Life... Thanks to spacey for the link too!!!

HAPPY HOLIDAYS TO ALL... Wildman

Your welcome for the link. Glad to have helped.

I haven't had a chance to listen but I will add my current thoughts..

I usually hold back on my decision about music until I've listened a few times. Especially with artists I'm interested in.
I remember my mentor telling me, " if you hit a wrong note..hit it again. It may be your just not use to the sound". Well that has gotten me looked at a few times..I should have known he meant when practicing. But like any artist you have to reach when it feels right.

I also find that maybe tomorrow I'll like listening to something that I just didn't care to hear today.

I'm just glad The Fireman is still doing what he does. I'll get the music and take it from there.

Regards,
Michael

you're welcome splindlebox -

Also I like wicked's point of view too.....

if nothing else at least Mccartney has you guys talking about art and creativity

What I might think about Macca's new stuff is inconsequential to say the least. But I'm glad to see both a peer and inspirational mentor still out there taking at bats and swinging for the fences. Rock on, Sir Paul.