Glyn Barnes
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OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only. NEW also Drumcore 4
Those of you that do not venture downstairs to the Software forum or visit KVR may have missed this bombshell http://forum.cakewalk.com/FindPost/2946631 So far that seems to be the only revolutonary revelation about this product.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/10 22:53:31
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I still really like SampleTank 2.5 (and the other related products I have with it, like SonicSynth2). The only thing I don't like about it is a few of the interface things are just "off", like the fact that the mouse wheel STILL doesn't work and obviously never will be. There are a ton of great sounds in these packages. Honestly, pretty much everything I need is in one of these packages.
I'd seriously consider this upgrade if it were price effective and got good reviews as being a new version of as strong (and fun) a plugin as ST has been for me.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/10 23:15:37
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I have Xpantion Tank libralies but never use them because I find Kontakt and VI.ONE much better soundwise. How is the full version of Sampletank compared to these two or Dim Pro or maybe Halion Sonic 2?
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 01:50:42
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Jlien X
I have Xpantion Tank libralies but never use them because I find Kontakt and VI.ONE much better soundwise. How is the full version of Sampletank compared to these two or Dim Pro or maybe Halion Sonic 2?
I have 2.5 and all expansions except the loops and Miroslave CE. Miroslave is still very nice and there is useful stuff in Sampletank. It does tend to be my third port of call when looking for sounds after Kontakt, Independence and Dimension Pro. Its closer to Dim Pro than the other two as it lacks key switches, but Dim Pro has the edge IMHO. I don't experience the bridging problems that affect a lot of others, but the interface is pretty nasty. With ST3 a lot will come down to the upgrade price. Its going to have an all new big factory library so I doubt if it will be cheap. It would be nice just to be able to update the player so one could take advantage of the new interface and 64 bit without having to pay for a library that I may not need. The bread an butter stuff I have pretty well covered already. I does not look like they are picthing it at the Kontakt market, making it more of a ROMplier for their content. One that is much simpler and (probably) much less powerful than Kontakt.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 02:13:56
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I hope Cakewalk make the decision to make X4 64 bit only as well. 32 bit needs to be stamped out like Internet Explorer 6.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 02:27:07
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CakeAlexS
I hope Cakewalk make the decision to make X4 64 bit only as well. 32 bit needs to be stamped out like Internet Explorer 6.
I don't disagree, but its a bold move to be the first!
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 05:28:30
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Only if they can update at least their own bundled plugins to 64 bit (VC64 anyone?) and pretty much guarantee a near 100% reliable BitBridge.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 08:41:11
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CakeAlexS
I hope Cakewalk make the decision to make X4 64 bit only as well. 32 bit needs to be stamped out like Internet Explorer 6.
There's an ie 6 Now ?? Who knew ??? Don't know why this should matter to you. It's already 64 bit only if that's how you install it.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 11:13:31
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As always there is a logical reason.If everybody ran 64 bit there would be a few less issues to resolve than with 32 bit. Also software companies will have less versions to test which means far more time for testing 64 bit. That would be a big deal.
BTW IE 6 is a website developers nightmare. Even MS had enough of it. So you know now.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 11:49:26
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paulo
CakeAlexS
I hope Cakewalk make the decision to make X4 64 bit only as well. 32 bit needs to be stamped out like Internet Explorer 6.
There's an ie 6 Now ?? Who knew ???
Don't know why this should matter to you. It's already 64 bit only if that's how you install it.
I agree paulo - tbh I don't understand CakeAlexs' comment at all. It already IS exclusively 64 bit if one selects that option at install....I for one think it is a good model offering separate versions to be installed at the users discretion.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 11:49:38
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CakeAlexS
As always there is a logical reason.If everybody ran 64 bit there would be a few less issues to resolve than with 32 bit. Also software companies will have less versions to test which means far more time for testing 64 bit. That would be a big deal.
BTW IE 6 is a website developers nightmare. Even MS had enough of it. So you know now.
And probably a few new ones, not to mention a fair few customers who just wouldn't buy it without some guaranteee that all 32bit plugs would work. I have some that I use all the time that don't function in Sonar 64. If it came to a choice between giving them up or not having a 64bit only Sonar, I would do without the new Sonar. As it is the biggest obstacle to me producing truly great stuff from what I already have is the idiot sat in front of the computer screens. ;) I'm sure it will happen one day though. I don't know anything about developers issues, but as a user I've never liked any version of IE.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 12:02:15
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Bitbridge is included with 64 bit Sonar. Impossible to guarantee all plugins will work in any scenario, that's mainly up to the third parties that develop them.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 12:55:26
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CakeAlexS
Bitbridge is included with 64 bit Sonar. Impossible to guarantee all plugins will work in any scenario, that's mainly up to the third parties that develop them.
I understand that and seeing as in my case those plugs are no longer sold then it isn't going to happen which in turn is why I wouldn't buy a 64bit only DAW.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 15:11:12
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I haven't installed a 32bit version of SONAR since making the move from 8.5 to X1. However, every now and then I consider it just because of those older 32bit DX plugins that will never work in 64bit, like the FX series reverb, chorus, flange, etc. If one was really attached to any of those, then 32bit SONAR would be required.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/11 16:54:22
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paulo
CakeAlexS
Bitbridge is included with 64 bit Sonar. Impossible to guarantee all plugins will work in any scenario, that's mainly up to the third parties that develop them.
I understand that and seeing as in my case those plugs are no longer sold then it isn't going to happen which in turn is why I wouldn't buy a 64bit only DAW.
Yeah the endless catch 22 :)
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Glyn Barnes
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/21 12:43:21
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/21 12:59:47
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I can understand new plugins being 64-bit only since all major DAWS now support 64-bit and there would be no logical reason to run a 32-bit plug on a 64-bit DAW if you already have 64-bit version. However, I don't see the advantage of cutting support for legacy products for the sole purpose of trying to force everyone to go 64-bit only. It seems a bit draconian and bound to tick off valuable customers who may have a go to plugin or synth that is not available as 64-bit and does not work in bridge software. There are a number of people who keep a 32-bit version of software installed along side their 64-bit one because a beloved plugin simply will not work otherwise.
As for Sampletank 3, I have adapted a wait and see approach. If the upgrade is in the stratosphere, they can kiss it. What I do like about sampletank is the sounds sit in the mix very well out the box. They suck for solo work imo.
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/22 20:06:47
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I always enjoyed ST2.5.. With the many group buys at IKM, I have every product, sample and loop library that I have no need for any more sounds or a new player. With NI Komplete 9 Ultimate, Independence 3.0 and EWQL Play ST 2.5's become a little dated. They'd have to do something really special in ST 3 to make it worth my while to upgrade. But who knows, you can never have to many plugins, samples, loops can you?
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Re: OT - Sampletank 3 will be 64 bit only.
2013/12/23 00:48:53
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I always enjoyed ST2.5.. With the many group buys at IKM, I have every product, sample and loop library that I have no need for any more sounds or a new player. With NI Komplete 9 Ultimate, Independence 3.0 and EWQL Play ST 2.5's become a little dated. They'd have to do something really special in ST 3 to make it worth my while to upgrade. But who knows, you can never have to many plugins, samples, loops can you?
Mike, I too own nearly all of the ik store but haven't used it in years, although it was nice in 32bit days. IF ik is smart, ST3 will be a hugely more powerful "wrapper" which can use the 70 or so gigs of ik samples I've got. That's the ONLY way I'll consider it, as my investment is just dead meat otherwise and I will not support a company that leaves my investment in the dirt. I loved lots of the sounds and with a good ARP and all the current dingles and dangles Sample Logic and others are implementing, it would be quite interesting. If the existing library is SOL, then to me, so is ik (until I get 64bit, they're just "ikky")
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