sandman5000
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OT-Get rid of your harware synths
Basically this software automaticaly samples your hardware synths. It can also sample VSTi's (and therefore freeing up cpu w/o freezing). Pretty neat! I first saw this in Open Labs neko line, but you have to buy their $5,000 and up computer/synths. I was hoping to see standalone software like this. I'm also glad there there is some competition (one goes for $329, the other for $99). http://www.samplerobot.com/was_b.htm http://www.cdxtract.com/samplit.php (I have no association with any of these companies. Just happy to live in these 'studio in a computer' times)
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 06:20:01
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Emulator X2 does this also, they call it synthswipe.
"SynthSwipe is a sampling tool that will automatically sample and create playable presets from any hardware or software MIDI instrument. Simply set the initial sampling parameters (i.e. key range, how many notes, how many velocities per note, velocity range) and SynthSwipe does the rest with the utmost precision. SynthSwipe is an invaluable tool for sound designers and anyone who wants to bring their old synth and sound module soundsets into the computer."
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 07:14:36
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Yea get rid of them, give them all to me. I'll dispose of them.......
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beltrom
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 07:34:28
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ORIGINAL: johndale
Yea get rid of them, give them all to me. I'll dispose of them.......
Sorry, I need to waste that particular space in just that way. But if you pay the ticket I might consider bringing one. Always wanted to see California... Seriously I use the midified modules pretty regularly still, and my Monopoly. But I have some stuff (like an MS10) that I haven't even seen for ages.
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harmony gardens
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 07:39:00
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No matter what softsynth I would add to the collection, nothing could pry my XP 60 away from me. 
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SteveJL
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 09:07:53
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Personally, I have about 4 hardware synths that I still use regularly. There are things I still feel hardware still has over software, the highest being control. When tweaking a patch, I find it MUCH easier to reach and twist a knob as opposed to turning a screen knob with the mouse.
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 09:16:26
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 09:25:21
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ORIGINAL: johndale
Yea get rid of them, give them all to me. I'll dispose of them.......
I'll have them on the front doorstep this evening if you'll drop by after 6 pM.
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beltrom
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 09:27:15
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That's right, had forgot about that. He added it a couple of "points" ago, had it for soft synths before.
I have EXSC, it's not only inexpensive - it's a great converter app. Has worked flawlessy for me. A pity he couldn't include ST2-support.
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 09:36:29
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Hi, I wouldn’t mind sampling my Yammie CS2X and then tossing it up on eBay, especially since I’m a drummer and not a keyboard player, but the cost of the software would equal what I would get for the dam thing ($250:00). However, you couldn’t pry my DDRUM 4se module from my dead rotten bones if you used dynamite.
post edited by Hexdigit62 - 2006/09/22 15:10:42
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 12:08:06
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Send them my way too. One rule - the space that the knobs and sliders take up on the front panel has to be at least 10x any LED or LCD screen. Think Memorymoog or P5.
While I can't say I would miss the editing capabilities of my Triton (though there are some interesting tweeks to the moss sound bank), I could not imagine tossing my analogs. Who cares what the presets are. That is why God made knobs.
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 12:47:44
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I've been using Samplit for a few month's now. Although I had already sold all but one of my synths, this tool has come in handy. I've been able to create refills of some of my favorite patches from Roland and Yamaha.
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 14:04:36
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ORIGINAL: harmony gardens
No matter what softsynth I would add to the collection, nothing could pry my XP 60 away from me.
Me either, harmony... or my Korg Z1 (despite it's size)... both together let me write tracks occasionally without turning my computer and all the associated hardware at all. At the end of a 10 hour work day, sometimes I want to write tunes without looking at a monitor. The tools still might come in handy though, I suppose... Take care, - zevo
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 15:29:22
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Well, if I had a burning desire to sample and unload all my hardware synths, I'd probably check out one of those programs. I've got 10 hardware synths that take up way too much room, but I use them for all my keyboard sounds and wouldn't consider getting rid of any of them. It's just a much more enjoyable way to work for me compared to soft synths, which I choose not to use at all. (Except for drum tracks, that is)
Besides, with all that gear turned on, it never gets cold in my basement in the winter time.
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WhyBe
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 16:08:19
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How much RAM and hard drive space do you have to use in order to faithfully reproduce the hardware synth? Especially synths like the Z1 or any FM synth.
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jonespnice1
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 16:51:23
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ORIGINAL: WhyBe
How much RAM and hard drive space do you have to use in order to faithfully reproduce the hardware synth? Especially synths like the Z1 or any FM synth.
Yeah, and how long (seconds) should you sample each note, I imagine it can take up alot of hard drive space.
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sandman5000
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 17:00:59
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ORIGINAL: Bottomfeeder
I've been using Samplit for a few month's now. Although I had already sold all but one of my synths, this tool has come in handy. I've been able to create refills of some of my favorite patches from Roland and Yamaha.
That is the one I am most interested in because it's only $99. Can you describe how well it works? Does it sound like the synths patch? How authentic is it? Is it as 'automatic' as they claim? I also use Reason, so that would be really cool. Thanks! Also, I guess the new emu x2 software has this feauture too. If it works like I hope, I'm sold (especilally scince I already have Proteus X le and get a good discount).
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sandman5000
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 17:04:55
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ORIGINAL: jonespnice1
ORIGINAL: WhyBe
How much RAM and hard drive space do you have to use in order to faithfully reproduce the hardware synth? Especially synths like the Z1 or any FM synth.
Yeah, and how long (seconds) should you sample each note, I imagine it can take up alot of hard drive space.
Good questions. I don't imagine one synth sound being more that 100 mb. Most will probably be under 50mb or even less. Craig Anderton is reviewing the emu x2. It be a good question for him.... http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=a7d9e27f4656523d6205c9594fdbe99e&threadid=1351934
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calaverasgrandes
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/22 17:07:10
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the hardware synths I hang onto just dont sample well. Especially with analog/digitla hybrids like the Korgs and Crumars. There is just a certain sound you get from the beating of the intervals modulating the filter cutoff. It is a littel bit different depending on which interval you are holding and which patch you use. Funny my Korg Poly 800 is my least programmable synth and I use it the most. It just has this great sound, kinda techno/early 80's/kraftwerk
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MArwood
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 02:42:43
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I have been using Samplit since it first came out. It is GREAT!!! Let me tell you why..... I love my K2500 it has lots of great sounds in it. For years I have been recording midi, tweaking midi then re-record all that to audio. Now that I have sampled my favorite sounds from the K2500. I record midi from K2500 and don't have to worry about latency since it is hardware. Then, I just load that same patch made from samplit into Kontakt. Then there is no rendering (recording Midi to Audio). It saves tons of time. I can fix a mistake later after I'm almost finished and don't have to re-record the tracks back to audio again. Its great! I also sampled my favorite kits from my TD-8.
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 02:52:23
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14 of my favorite K2500 sounds take up 2.3g My Roland TD-8 only took 1gig for my favorite 17kits. The K2500 samples are larger. The Stereo Grand 2 was 60 meg, Bass Guitars about 20meg All long samples no looping. If I had the time I would cut the sample time and do some sample looping, just don't have the time!
Max Arwood
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 05:49:43
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harmony gardens,
"Roland XP-60 MUSIC WORKSTATION," to be precise.
Has this. Has that. Has the ineffable it.
Classic lines, too!
Nuff sed.
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HysteriKen
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 06:25:54
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I've kept my old Roland MT-32 for 1 sound, I like the information relating to these devices and have downloaded demo's of a couple already. I will not part with my Juno 106 though.
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Alpine86
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 07:35:30
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I have 6 synths as well as a CP70, a rhodes and a bunch o racks.. even though I find myself using soft synths more than I have in the past... getting rid of them would totally kill the mojo of my studio..
Peace,
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HysteriKen
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 07:57:13
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WhyBe
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 09:24:40
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 09:38:49
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Why would you want to sample your hardware analogue synths? I prefer a software synth over a sampled hardware synth because the whole point of synthesis as opposed to sampling is the control and tweakability. That is exactly the same reason why I wouldn't get rid of my hardware synths. Take the Andromeda, if you move one of the knobs by less than a millimeter, the sound changes quite a bit. Sampling this beast would take terabytes of storage and still wouldn't come close to the original. Or the FS1R. There are so many possible sounds that you can create. Sampling doesn't come anywhere close to this. If you use hardware synths as preset boxes, you don't deserve to own them.  UnderTow
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svw24
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 09:47:26
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Dave Smith is right! Softsynths do sound cold, and dont have an own identity. I own al clavia machines except the NL3 and i must say that there is nothing that sounds like that. I wouldn't like to sample them because then they are just dead sounds that cannot be tweaked. Thats the main reason why i dont like the synths that Cakewalk offers nowadays. The softsynths are just like McDonalds food .. it tastes ok but doesn't forfills the need for real food! 
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WhyBe
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 09:50:53
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ORIGINAL: UnderTow
Why would you want to sample your hardware analogue synths? I prefer a software synth over a sampled hardware synth because the whole point of synthesis as opposed to sampling is the control and tweakability. That is exactly the same reason why I wouldn't get rid of my hardware synths.
Take the Andromeda, if you move one of the knobs by less than a millimeter, the sound changes quite a bit. Sampling this beast would take terabytes of storage and still wouldn't come close to the original. Or the FS1R. There are so many possible sounds that you can create. Sampling doesn't come anywhere close to this.
If you use hardware synths as preset boxes, you don't deserve to own them.
UnderTow
Preach!
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svw24
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RE: OT-Get rid of your harware synths
2006/09/23 09:53:01
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ORIGINAL: UnderTow
Why would you want to sample your hardware analogue synths? I prefer a software synth over a sampled hardware synth because the whole point of synthesis as opposed to sampling is the control and tweakability. That is exactly the same reason why I wouldn't get rid of my hardware synths.
Take the Andromeda, if you move one of the knobs by less than a millimeter, the sound changes quite a bit. Sampling this beast would take terabytes of storage and still wouldn't come close to the original. Or the FS1R. There are so many possible sounds that you can create. Sampling doesn't come anywhere close to this.
If you use hardware synths as preset boxes, you don't deserve to own them.
UnderTow
Uhm yeah what he said! Amen
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