Office 2013, I hate change

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2013/02/18 21:01:37 (permalink)

Office 2013, I hate change

Along with a new DAW, I figured I should update from Office 2007 to the current version. The GUI has obviously been tailored for tablet use. Very 2 dimensional with interlocking panes, great for a tablet, but on my monitor it's just a big white space. They put a lot of work into removing borders and separators that take up screen space. If you have a Microsoft Surface on your wish list, this app was made for you.

I guess what's really funny is my reaction when I first tried it. I'm trying to use Outlook and keep having flashbacks to X1's early days. It does everything the old version did, plus more, but I couldn't find any of my familiar stuff. The changed graphics put a whammy on me and the relocated commands finished me off. It changed everything, just like X1.

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    bapu
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/18 22:54:36 (permalink)
    Uh Oh

    I may have to get Access 2013 if I expect to do 10 hours of work for a client every other month or so.
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 01:46:21 (permalink)
    Well - I given up on Office a long time ago. At this moment I am using the completely free LibreOffice ( http://www.libreoffice.org/ ), and it does everything I want from a office suite. Of course - if you have clients that are using Microsoft-only obscure formatting in their documents you have no choice and cough up the money. But I rather use that money for other things. I am using PDF output as standard (and build-in standard MS document output for things like spread sheets) and this is sufficient in 95% of the cases.
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 08:30:26 (permalink)
    Ugghh... I do Access programming and I'm still on Office 2003 at work, but some people have been upgraded to 2010.  I have 2010 at home, mostly to get ready for the inevitable at work, but I'm not looking forward to yet another version to have to be prepared for.  At least at work they tend to skip around and take time their time before updating Office, so there is a chance I won't have to deal with 2013 there.

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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 10:54:24 (permalink)
    Have you tried Open Office?
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 11:03:30 (permalink)
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    Ugghh... I do Access programming and I'm still on Office 2003 at work, but some people have been upgraded to 2010.  I have 2010 at home, mostly to get ready for the inevitable at work, but I'm not looking forward to yet another version to have to be prepared for.  At least at work they tend to skip around and take time their time before updating Office, so there is a chance I won't have to deal with 2013 there.

    I use/program access 2007 and 2010 at work. I am getting a little nervous since there seems to be very little info about any changes to Access 2013. I also don't like the licensing tied to the original machine.
    post edited by JohnoL - 2013/02/19 12:33:37
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 19:41:24 (permalink)
    IMO office 2003 was still the best of the bunch, I do use office 2007 now. But I won't upgrade again till they make me. Why spend all that time trying to re-learn what you already know how to do?


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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 19:53:36 (permalink)
    Another plus for LibreOffice. Very recent note that ver 4 is out.

    I had the even more ancient Office 2003 or whatever installed.

    Went to Win 7 and the MS bastards had me at ransom. This said with all the deep respect to what Microsoft and Bill have done for planetary information exchange.

    Win 7 doesn't recognize my version of Word. Response to my inquiry was that they were in full sympathy with my problem and are there to make things right and guide me through to the Light. All it requires is a couple hundred dollars upgrade fee and life will be bliss as long as it is licensed/activated on one computer only...

    Fork these theives in spite of the historical good they have done otherwise...

    Went with Open Office and then Libre Office. These programs were a joke 5 years ago, but not now. Serious competitors. David and Goliath glory for the end user.

    Libre and Open are closely related and a cooperative effort. I went with Libre a year or so back because they were ahead in opening the file X formats of the new Office. Don't know where Open Office is currently.

    Libre and Open lack a replacement for Outlook, and like said, some subtle formatting may be missed opening an Access file from Windows in Libre.

    Conventional opinion is that Outlook is replaced by Thunderbird email and their Calendar app, though don't have info on whether Thunderbird can navigate on a collective field. Like updates in the address book etc on a server system, say across multiple sites of an extended company.

    Otherwise, the project is evolving and growing strength and grace in its open source rivalry.

    Free, no activation scheme, opens anything MS can spit out. Well worth the investigation and download.
     
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 20:32:32 (permalink)
    I'm sticking with 2010 primarily due to licensing.  I consult Office software automation, so if business needs it, I'll go with a 365 subscription at some point.

    The open source office packages just don't cut it for my usage.  They're good for casual use and for your own stuff, but once you go into cross business sharing and automation, they just suck.  I work primarily in VBA and you can't beat the development environment in Office.

    The extra features available for the UI in Access 2007 and after are WAY better than 2003 ever was.  I can draw up a really pretty UI that looks like a native application quite easily, in 2003 it looks dated and plain primaily due to the lack of control anchoring on forms.

    There's always going to be change... roll with it :)

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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/19 23:26:22 (permalink)
    work just upgraded to office 2010 and it's driving me nuts.

    dual screens at work and I can open a word document on each window no problem.  but excel, no.  have to do a convoluted open blah blah then it will open two instances.  then ya close everything and have to do it all over again.  truely frustrating especially since the SAME 2010 word works automatically opening another instance of word.

    change is hard.  as I get older changes is more challenging.

    I didn't even know  there was a 2013 ugh.
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/20 05:18:23 (permalink)
    Our company only recently upgraded to 2007. This was a major upheaval for a lot of the more inexperienced users. The rest of us more or less embraced the change, though I can get Excel to crash quite easily.

    I run 2010 at home, and I don't really like it one bit.

    So what are the new "features" of 2013?

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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/20 06:59:42 (permalink)
    I'm still using Office 2003 Professional and it does everything I need.  

    Office 2003 is not listed on the Win 8 compatibility list and not supposed to work but I have it installed on my Win 8 Pro installation and Word and Outlook (what I primarily use) works OK on Win 8. 

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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/20 07:13:20 (permalink)
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    work just upgraded to office 2010 and it's driving me nuts.
     
    unfortunately i know exactly what it feels like and even worse: with excel you'll never get over losing v2003. i do make a lot of work / money consulting for engineering companies and consider myself a power user of excel, but when I was forced to move to 2007 / 2010 I almost suffered from a fatigue break in my index finger having to click a million times more often to get the same things done ...
     
    so i refused to upgrade from access 2003 for 2 more years, but just recently had to go through porting my developments to access 2010, 64 bit. 2 weeks of work plus numerous headaches, just to get the same functionality back - and worst of it all: they still have that 2 GB file size limit in place which is absolutely ridiculous ... 7 years of development and license upgrades and no change???
     
    and it gets even better: counting all crashes of Excel I had in the last 15 years is certainly a smaller number than what I had in the past 2 months!
     
    considering all that cake has done a great jop revamping sonar and getting X2a stable! IMHO
     
    change is hard.  as I get older changes is more challenging.
     
    it's definitely NOT an age thing. this pseudo-streamlining of software just to fit new gadgets is one of the most annoying developments in recent years!!!!
     
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    Re:Office 2013, I hate change 2013/02/20 09:51:16 (permalink)
    change is hard. as I get older changes is more challenging.

     
    Change is hard for many, not just older.  My day job, before retiring, was as a  Regional LAN/WAN Network and Hardware Help Desk Manager for a US Federal Government Agency.  Before the agency migrated from "dumb" terminals (IBM 3270 terminals) to LAN, I was sent to a 1 week "managing change" seminar.  My tech staff (hardware help desk techs and network techs) were used to change, but the people at our field offices which were administrative types were not really (or not most) ready for a major change in the way they did work with computers.  It was a major task when we went from teletype machines to the dumb computer terminals.  From the dumb computer terminals to PC's and LAN's was even a bigger shock to how they did their jobs as each employee was to get a PC and have access to the agency's remote computer complex.  What small amount of PC computers that were on the sites (maybe one or two PC's) ran older DOS applications including WordPerfect, Lotus 123, dBase, etc.  The new LAN systems (initially Novell netware for the LAN) would be client server systems and MS Office applications, along with a 3270 emulator for on-line access to the agency's central office computer (CICS mainframe) complex. 
     
    Talk about a technology shock... They were given training on using the computers and one person in the office was given LAN Administrator training.  In preparation for the LAN conversion, my Help Desk staff was increased and given prior training including PC hardware troubleshooting and repair training.  I was also given contractor help staff, initially Novell CNE's and later MSCE's.
     
     
     
        


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