Offset for Midi recording?

Under Preference, Audio, Sync and Caching, Record Latency Adjustment (samples), there's a "Manual Offset" setting used for compensating for delay when recording audio. I need a similar offset for my midi recording. Is there such a setting? I don't see it under Preferences, MIDI. All my midi notes end up slightly AHEAD of where I play them!!

Thanks pinguin - the real bummer about this is that there's not a separate parameter for midi vs. analog audio! I need the offset for my firewire analog audio interface, but for my usb-connected keyboard controller I need a different value (possibly 0).
 
Cakewalk guys -- is there a way to work up a separate offset value for midi vs. audio?

Using ASIO drivers I do not have to adjust offset. The driver reports to Sonar the latency and Sonar uses " reported Latency" 
I've run loopback tests and with ASIO my tracks are bang on. It is when you use drivers other than ASIO then you will certainly have to use the manual offset.  
And as far as midi goes pretty easy to deal with it in PRV,  drag it.  
 
 

bgewin
the real bummer about this is that there's not a separate parameter for midi vs. analog audio! I need the offset for my firewire analog audio interface, but for my usb-connected keyboard controller I need a different value (possibly 0).

 
Not sure what you're saying here. Timing Offset (not to be confused with Manual Offset as noted) shifts the M:B:T grid against the audio clock. This affects the timing of MIDI going in and out of hardware ports vs. audio (including the audio metronome), which is why it works to correct a MIDI-recording alignment problem when recording to the audio metronome. Most interfaces don't have this issue; I've never figured out why some do.
 
On playback, SONAR handles MIDI driven soft synth audio just like recorded audio; it's buffered up in advance, and won't be affected by Timing Offset. Only hardware synths will be affected by Timing Offset. If you don't use them, it's safe to use Timing Offset to correct MIDI recording issue. If you do use hardware synths, having a large positive Timing Offset to address the recording problem will cause problems with hardware synth timing on playback.

So once again, like I said in the other thread ,, midi drivers are important!  So what happened to you was your USB midi drivers, if there were any to begin with, were pourly written, and just like a pourly written audio driver you get sync issues. You switched to your audio interface which has proper midi drivers, problem solved. 
 
You should never have to mess with manual offset adjustments if the audio or midi driver is doing it's job. 
 
I have a feeling this is another W10 issue where we find a lot of gear now doesn't come with drivers for W10. The web site will just tell you that W10 will deal with it and use a generic driver. 
 
I just ran into this with a Printer I have that I use for CD printing. Worked great with XP and W7 because it had a install disk, It won't fully work under W10 because W10 rejects the Install disk and installs a printer driver it downloads.  Problem is there is no driver to make the CD printing tray work under W10. The Epson web site say's the printer is supported by W10 but say's driver will be automaticly installed so no software on the site. 
I also had my G force Video card stop running in dual screen because w10 had overwritten the factory driver. 
So this song and dance is true of many manufactures who don't take the time to update drivers.