Old fashion country drinkin' song

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2016/01/25 19:19:34 (permalink)

Old fashion country drinkin' song

I just finished this one today and I would appreciate some feedback regarding the mix.  It's called the Old Dog.  Thanks!
 
 
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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/01/27 12:18:22 (permalink)
    Well... I'll try again.

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/01/27 17:25:51 (permalink)
    I liked it. As a violin guy I appreciated the extra gain on the fiddle solo. I would have raised the gain on the vocals a tiny bit more. Every instrument sounds nice and clear, maybe a little muddy in the lower mids, but it works. Good job and nice playing!

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/01/28 09:46:19 (permalink)
    Thanks for the feedback Leizer.  When I was listening to the track in my car I thought the same thing about the vocals..
    Thanks!
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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/01/30 19:50:20 (permalink)
    Very nice playing and singing on this -- but...there is something that -- for me -- just doesn't mesh.  It sounds a little busy and a tad out of sync.  Have you considered stripping it down a bit in the beginning and gradually bringing in the other instruments?  This might accentuate the groove and let the listener settle into the song.  You've got some good stuff here but to my ears it needs a bit of tweaking.  :)
     
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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/01/31 18:48:35 (permalink)
    Thanks Alan, I'll listen again and try your suggestion.  Thanks!

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/01 13:54:22 (permalink)
    Sounds really good to me - all instruments are clean and have a distinct parts. A very good honky-tonk vibe. My only crit is the same as Allan's - there's an occasional sense of being slightly out of sync (ever so slightly). Love the vocals. It's "good time" music and I like having a good time.

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/01 15:43:12 (permalink)
    I wonder if the bass is not lined up with the kick or the vocal not lined up properly.  I'll listen again.  Thanks again!


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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/01 19:39:47 (permalink)
    I like it , nice playing and vocals but I agree with Abull , it needs tightening up a bit.

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/02 08:26:05 (permalink)
    Nothing says COUNTRY MUSIC like a drinking song.  I like country quite a bit.  So, this interested me.  I listened the first day you put this up.... came back the next day and again today.... so here's my take on this.  Started off sounding like "Chicken Fried". Nothing wrong with that.... just an observation.
     
    Cool tune, but the mix needs some work.
     
    Vocals could come up a bit. I had a hard time understanding what was being said in a few places.
    Fiddle fills could go down a bit.
     
    I got the feeling that some of the parts felt a tad bit rushed. I'm talking about something that's a feeling as opposed to... yeah that's coming in too early. I noticed this in the beginning licks. Kinda like the players were trying really hard to nail it rather than simply letting it flow naturally.  We've all done that.
     
    Others have mentioned that it's a bit busy. I have to agree. Probably from the fiddle that's playing fills throughout. Start out by pulling the fiddle out where the singer is singing. Let it "fill" a few places between the vocal phrases. Sometimes, all it needs is a single note or two as opposed to an entire fiddle phrase.
     
    Also... Try using another fill instrument... acoustic guitar, piano, steel, dobro,  etc on fills in this. When I work on a song, I use a fill instrument, generally speaking, on one verse. The next verse will have a different fill instrument. Just as the lyrics are telling a different part of the story, the fill instrument is painting a different musical vibe and feel for the listener. The chorus sometimes will have the brightest fill instrument.

    Also, for a nice dramatic build to the song.....consider leaving the fills OUT in the first verse totally.  The idea for that and for using different fill instruments is to have a general building of energy and excitement in the song which hits it's peak on the chorus.

    I've even had the fill instruments swapping fills in some songs. And each song is totally different. So think about how you want to build the song. For country, also think what would be the minimum instrumentation that will sound good and get the song's idea and concept across.

    Good song, make a few tweeks and let us hear it.
     
    Edit: listen to this song on my site>>>  http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=13040458  this is using the things I spoke of.... no fills on the first verse, selected ones from there on.... mostly fiddle fills. Varying between piano, guitar and steel. The drums also start driving on V2.
     
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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/02 10:26:15 (permalink)
    Unfortunately I don't drink anymore - 3 years since my last drink - helps keep my girlish figure and keeps me fit for playing Football (Soccer).
    IF I still drank, I'm sure this would help keep my drinking elbow active :)
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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/02 19:32:25 (permalink)
    Thanks everybody..

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/03 14:54:50 (permalink)
    Ditto to the above - good country song with a great vibe.  I actually played country-rock back in the mid-90s and I could picture doing something like this!
     
    For the mix the only thing I would add is perhaps working with the strumming part(s), either simplifying them, pushing them back or EQing to carve some space.  For me that's what seems to make the mix a little busy even more than the fills.  Although for those fills...   you could try trading them back and forth a bit more too.
     

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/03 15:18:09 (permalink)
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    Ditto to the above - good country song with a great vibe.  I actually played country-rock back in the mid-90s and I could picture doing something like this!
     
    For the mix the only thing I would add is perhaps working with the strumming part(s), either simplifying them, pushing them back or EQing to carve some space.  For me that's what seems to make the mix a little busy even more than the fills.  Although for those fills...   you could try trading them back and forth a bit more too.
     




     
    Yup.... ditto.... for the rhythm guitars.... I generally have them really low in the mix.  And...I only have one in most cases.... with acoustic, I will record 2 separate tracks panned 100% opposite for a nice wide stereo field, but they tend to be very low in the mix. 

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    Re: Old fashion country drinkin' song 2016/02/03 20:46:18 (permalink)
    This is good stuff. Well done!
     
    Maybe roll off the bass with a high pass filter.

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