Older X3 project kinda freaking out in Platinum (and X3)

There's another thread about something like this - but I'll be damned if I know where it is. Basically - try undocking the PRV, set it to floating, and set your controller lane size etc, then re-dock it.
 
I'm not 100% sure about what you're describing - but this might help ;-)

jbraner
There's another thread about something like this - but I'll be damned if I know where it is. Basically - try undocking the PRV, set it to floating, and set your controller lane size etc, then re-dock it.
 
I'm not 100% sure about what you're describing - but this might help ;-)

I vaguely remember that thread but as I recall it was the whole PRV that wasn't showing up (after a save).
I'm going to mess with this later this morning and poke around with yours and Dave's ideas and report back.
Thanks guys,
Randy
 

Wow, this project is more screwy than I thought...I tried different  variations of dock/undock/save/open/hold my mouth in a different way, etc but still get the same weirdness.
It can even open controller lanes when selecting an audio track!
I've developed a new issue in this project too...at some point I started hearing a strange tremolo effect (for lack of a better term) going on...not on all tracks but just on Garritan products (Garritan Personal Orchestra and Instant Orchestra).
I thought it must be some kind of FX somewhere but it happens when disabling all fx (by hitting E) and freezing the synths plays back the same.
I guess the good news is this is apparently not a Platinum specific issue as it acts the same way in X3e.
I would shrug all this off as simply a corrupted project but I'd really like to finish it and it's too complex to start over.
I can live with the weirdness in PRV but wondering if anyone has a clue as to what could be causing the tremolo effect (amplitude change of the signal... modulating the volume up and down in a cyclical manner)
Thanks guys,
Randy
 
 

I might have to double-check, but the way I remember it is that any change of active track in the PRV tracks pane forces a refresh/reopen of all controller lanes for all tracks currently open in the PRV (i.e. highlighted in the PRV track picker and shown in the tracks pane). Since most users record everything as channel 1 and use forced MIDI out channel assignments in the track header to control routing to a multi-timbral synth when necessary, It's common for every controller lane to show events on channel 1.
 
In any case, if you whack all the unwanted controller data from all tracks, and close the lanes, they should not reopen again.

Thanks Dave, that makes sense but I wonder how I should go about whacking all the unwanted controller data from the tracks.
As shown in the image above the ChanAft data is greyed out ...and the CC1 data you see there greys out after using the eraser tool on it (same color as the ChanAft lane now).
Thanks bud,
Randy

jbraner
Randy,
Just a couple of ideas:
- have you opened up event view for each track, to look for controller events? (to delete them)
 
- as a last resort, you could always try opening a new  blank project, and drag (copy) each track form your old one in to the new one (praying that the rubbish doesnt come with it...)
 
Just clutching at straws.here - I've had corrupted projects before - it's a pain in the butt.

I did check event list earlier and saw nothing but I'm going to check more tracks now...thanks John!
EDIT- when you say Event Viewr you are referring to view/Event List right?

brundlefly
Grayed out controllers indicate they are not on the currently active/focused track. To whack everything, select all MIDI tracks, then Edit > Select by Filter, click None to clear all selections, and then re-check only the Controllers box and OK.

What am doing wrong here...in TV I hit ctrl/A, go to edit/select/by filter, click none and then re-check only controllers and then OK.
I then go to Event List and see a gazillion notes (along with controllers).
Thanks for the patience guys,
Randy

Thanks John just wanted to make sure I'm in the right place...now if I can just get Dave to tell me what I'm STILL missing.

brundlefly
Oops. Left out final step... hit Delete. 
 
If you're looking at the Event List after Select By Filter, you should see black selection indicators only on controller events at that point.

haha, okay...problem is there are LOTS of CC1 mod data that I don't want to delete...I'm painstakingly scrolling through and deleting the individual aftertouch and expression events...I'm hoping to be done by bedtime 
It'll be worth it though if I can get rid of whatever the hell is causing the tremolo effect thingy.
Thanks guys,
Randy

After about 30 minutes I gave up and said to hell with it, I'll just re-do all the mod wheel stuff and hit delete...proble still existed so I hit undo (thank god for undo!).
Anyway, I suppose I'll take this to the Garritan forum now since it's only those products (through the Aria Engine/Player) affected...I have my doubts on a solution though because there is one (of the 7 instances) that is not affected.
Thanks again my friends,
Randy