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On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested

Ok be honest if you have platinum how do you like it?  How was the install process for you? The upgrade price at $149 is that the best deal coming this year or should I wait until around Christmas time like I normally do to upgrade?  I must admit Sonar X3e is working just fine for me so convince me why I should upgrade again?
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/13 23:44:48 (permalink)
I didn't know it was still available at the intro $149.

It was too easy for me. Cakewalk will no doubt polish up things about the installation etc but compared to previous versions this was a breeze.

None of whatbCakewalk have promoted has turned out to be only hype. They've raised the bar and are living up to what they've said in their marketing material. Sonar Platinum is by far the best and stable version of Sonar ever

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 00:09:49 (permalink)
You just need to decide if you really want the new features added. X3e was a great update to Sonar's X series, and Platinum continues to be as stable as X3e. I like Platinum a lot . . . the new Control Bar, FX bin display, PRV display updates, as well as the Prochannel Rematrix Convolution Reverb and Bark of the Dog modules are my personal new favourites, though there are many other new additions that others will find useful (Vocal Sync, Addictive Drums 2, Mix Recall, Pattern Brush etc. . .)
 
The addition of Command Center for installing new updates, makes installing updates very easy, though it's far from perfected as of yet.
 
There will always be "DEALS", it's the nature of selling software products, however, with the new membership model being implemented recently it may be better to get in early, or pay more later ?

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 00:27:30 (permalink)
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I didn't know it was still available at the intro $149.

Cakewalk extended the promo cutoff. There are also resellers willing to discount further. As a serial upgrader, this version represents a significant upgrade to X3 with a free upgrade to the next version I would have purchased in a year thrown in. The first release of exclusive content happened this month.
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 02:00:19 (permalink)
I've just had a look and AudioDeluxe.com have Sonar Platinum upgrade from X3 for $125.99 for members. Only takes a 1 minute signup to join.

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 03:10:06 (permalink)
In my personal experience with it so far, ive had no problems that wasn't caused by either my lack of knowledge about a subject or my own computer. Sonar itself for me has proven to be very stable. I'm loving rematrix solo and also vocal sync specifically.

Artist send me their music through emails and vocal synce really helps me align their verse/hypes and multiple takes for fillers etc... Overall I am very satisfied with the upgrade. I had mostly any tool I needed on x3 but sometimes a lil something new gives me a burst of inspiration and creativity. Dependkng on what exactly you do... It has some great new tricks up its sleeve not present in x3 that help. I definitely like the customization of the tool bar. That's all just based on my experience with it.
For the price it's definitely well worth the upgrade to me anyways.
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 04:21:52 (permalink)
Well, I was excited...until I tried to install it and received a blue screen because of some conflict with bdfsfltr - which appears to be a part of my virus connection. So I could only install it in Safe Mode. Even then, Plt continues to crash and stop working - apparently it doesn't like Melodyne or at times my Roland Quad drivers - but also for other 'unknown' issues. So now, if I want to update, it has to be via Safe Mode - even disabling virus still gets me a nice blue screen. 
 
It's slow to open projects as well and really apart from midi manipulation improvements and the rematrix solo, there's not much in it for me. X3e continues to be my 'go to' DAW as it rarely if at all crashes and loads projects quickly.
 
If I had to do it over again, I'd probably just try the monthly payment option, as by now, I would have cancelled it...just sits on my system now as I won't touch it anymore...rather spend my time making music than stuffing around with Plt. Big waste of time and money for me.
 
Just my experience of it. So I'm not going to try to convince you to upgrade. I would advise you rather to try the monthly option if it's still available;

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 06:16:05 (permalink)
Doesn't matter.

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 08:25:34 (permalink)
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Well, I was excited...until I tried to install it and received a blue screen because of some conflict with bdfsfltr - which appears to be a part of my virus connection. So I could only install it in Safe Mode. Even then, Plt continues to crash and stop working - apparently it doesn't like Melodyne or at times my Roland Quad drivers - but also for other 'unknown' issues. So now, if I want to update, it has to be via Safe Mode - even disabling virus still gets me a nice blue screen. 
 
It's slow to open projects as well and really apart from midi manipulation improvements and the rematrix solo, there's not much in it for me. X3e continues to be my 'go to' DAW as it rarely if at all crashes and loads projects quickly.
 
If I had to do it over again, I'd probably just try the monthly payment option, as by now, I would have cancelled it...just sits on my system now as I won't touch it anymore...rather spend my time making music than stuffing around with Plt. Big waste of time and money for me.
 
Just my experience of it. So I'm not going to try to convince you to upgrade. I would advise you rather to try the monthly option if it's still available;


It seems to me that your virus setup is the problem. Most people use MS essentials or some non conflicting protection. Some do without and have their machines offline. I suppose what is a priority to you is not one I have. I much rather be able to run my programs without trouble. But thats just me.  

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 08:55:10 (permalink)
My biggest concern going in was how it would handle older projects, and in a word, perfectly. I could even argue it sounds better ( imagery and depth to my ears ) to the point i'm remixing some old tunes with 1/3 of the plugins used because the original takes sounded bigger than before. To be clear, I record live instruments much more than working with midi so I can't speak too much to that.
 
This is without a doubt the best version I've had and I've been around since Sonar 4.

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 09:43:22 (permalink)
My experience matches with most other posters.  I installed with NO problems, runs all the projects I have opened, old and newer, runs fast and has never crashed.  The additional features are true upgrade material. 

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 09:52:34 (permalink)
Platinum is the most solid version ever IMHO ...and has so many toys and tools that I don't know I'll ever get around to learning them all well...a good problem to have as far as I'm concerned : )

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 10:50:09 (permalink)
Something that is overlooked when making a decision to upgrade is the advantages of "being up to date". There is a wave of information that you can ride when staying current. If you ask about using AD2 or the new Control Bar you will get lots of answers. Notice how many and how fast people respond to posts about R-Mix SONAR or V-Vocal. Nothing against those programs, I am just pointing them out to make my point. If you want to know how to do something there will probably be several threads on it and not by people using Windows XP. There is a good amount of Cakewalk posts on the new SONAR. Not so much on Home Studio 7 XL. (actually none) New ways to do things what software is causing crashes doesn't happen in a vacuum. Someone will have had the same thing. A crash in an older version and you have a smaller number of people who are in the same place as you. And lastly, if this the last "version" of SONAR it is the best time to upgrade. Even if you let your membership lapse for a few months or a year you wont be on a totally different version.

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 10:53:40 (permalink)
I forgot to mention it's a great, stable, DAW!

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 20:49:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fabio Rubato 2015/03/20 23:19:02
I second that. Very pleased with Platinum.

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 20:57:33 (permalink)
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Well, I was excited...until I tried to install it and received a blue screen because of some conflict with bdfsfltr - which appears to be a part of my virus connection. So I could only install it in Safe Mode. Even then, Plt continues to crash and stop working - apparently it doesn't like Melodyne or at times my Roland Quad drivers - but also for other 'unknown' issues. So now, if I want to update, it has to be via Safe Mode - even disabling virus still gets me a nice blue screen. 
 
It's slow to open projects as well and really apart from midi manipulation improvements and the rematrix solo, there's not much in it for me. X3e continues to be my 'go to' DAW as it rarely if at all crashes and loads projects quickly.
 
If I had to do it over again, I'd probably just try the monthly payment option, as by now, I would have cancelled it...just sits on my system now as I won't touch it anymore...rather spend my time making music than stuffing around with Plt. Big waste of time and money for me.
 
Just my experience of it. So I'm not going to try to convince you to upgrade. I would advise you rather to try the monthly option if it's still available;


It seems to me that your virus setup is the problem. Most people use MS essentials or some non conflicting protection. Some do without and have their machines offline. I suppose what is a priority to you is not one I have. I much rather be able to run my programs without trouble. But thats just me.  




Thanks John...that's good advice. I'll consider it, even though I've just paid recently to extend the subscription. If it's at the heart of the problem, then maybe I'd better get rid of it and try something else like MS essentials.
 
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:04:55 (permalink)
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I've just had a look and AudioDeluxe.com have Sonar Platinum upgrade from X3 for $125.99 for members. Only takes a 1 minute signup to join.


A lot of good information but if this is true about $125.99 I will buy this tonight.  Also what happens after your year membership is up, do you have to pay a one time charge again or a monthly fee?  If so that will be constantly paying for software if that is the case.
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:17:04 (permalink)
With the one-time payment method, the software is yours just like all previous upgrades. After your membership ends at the end of a year, you may elects to sign up for another year, go monthly or allow the membership to lapse. There is no continuing obligation to pay Cakewalk anything to use the product you are about to purchase.
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:21:55 (permalink)
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Ok be honest if you have platinum how do you like it?  How was the install process for you? The upgrade price at $149 is that the best deal coming this year or should I wait until around Christmas time like I normally do to upgrade?  I must admit Sonar X3e is working just fine for me so convince me why I should upgrade again?


Why even be on the fence when it's pretty close to a no brainer? It's better. Period. More value and inspiration for your time using it.

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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:24:10 (permalink)
Only thing I found at that site for $125 http://audiodeluxe.com/products/cakewalk-sonar-professional-academic
http://audiodeluxe.com/products/cakewalk-sonar-platinum-upgrade-sonar-x3-producer I have been with Sonar since Cakewalk, then to 8.5, X1,X2,X3 and now potentially Platinum. I feel like as soon as I get comfortable with one version a new one comes out and the learning curve starts all over again.  I want to get a point of this is it, this is my DAW and not be concerned about upgrading when the next new version comes out. Are we in the trap of software upgrades, how do we break this cycle?  Creating music is our goal but it seems more time is spent on learning how new things work than creating music in my opinion at first anyway.  If I upgrade this time I would like for it to be my last but I am sure the next version will be the best version ever.  In my humble opinion 8.5.3 was my favorite thus far.
 
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:26:16 (permalink)
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With the one-time payment method, the software is yours just like all previous upgrades. After your membership ends at the end of a year, you may elects to sign up for another year, go monthly or allow the membership to lapse. There is no continuing obligation to pay Cakewalk anything to use the product you are about to purchase.


If you don't sign up for another year and you need or want updates what happens then?
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:27:04 (permalink)
Also the learning curve to really maximize what you can do what is the best method to learn what you need to learn?
 
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:27:33 (permalink)
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Only thing I found at that site for $125 http://audiodeluxe.com/products/cakewalk-sonar-professional-academic
http://audiodeluxe.com/products/cakewalk-sonar-platinum-upgrade-sonar-x3-producer

You will not see the final price for the X3-to-Platinum upgrade until after the product is added to your cart. The
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:32:27 (permalink)
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If you don't sign up for another year and you need or want updates what happens then?

When you decide you need or want updates you will need to either purchase another year or go on the monthly payment plan. Just like you are considering now. The only difference between upgrading from X3 to Platinum and next years event, whether you choose to call it an upgrade or membership renewal, is the product will (presumably) still be called SONAR Platinum.
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:33:20 (permalink)
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Only thing I found at that site for $125 http://audiodeluxe.com/products/cakewalk-sonar-professional-academic
http://audiodeluxe.com/products/cakewalk-sonar-platinum-upgrade-sonar-x3-producer

You will not see the final price for the X3-to-Platinum upgrade until after the product is added to your cart.


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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:37:25 (permalink)
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Also the learning curve to really maximize what you can do what is the best method to learn what you need to learn?

Check out the SONAR 2015 videos http://www.cakewalk.com/CakeTV/SONAR-University/Get-Started. Read the new features section of the doc http://www.cakewalk.com/Documentation?product=SONAR&language=3&help=NewFeatures.01.html
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:40:48 (permalink)
In X3e I had to get with Melodyne to get it working properly there was a problem with the activation code they gave me they had to give me a new one.  Is Melodyne transferred to Platinum?  Also once Platinum is installed and working can I uninstall all other versions of Sonar or is it better to keep them for just in case purposes?
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:52:03 (permalink)
Only one license for Melodyne is issued with SONAR. You received yours with X3. Melodyne will show as part of Platinum but it is the same license. Do not bother with installing Melodyne again. Platinum will pick up the previous install although it will show as not installed in the Command Center. 
 
You can also skip Rapture and Dpro.
 
If you want to delete old versions of SONAR do it before installing Platinum but if you have the space, it is best to leave them installed. If you manually delete the tutorials in "Cakewalk Content" for each version,  SONAR uses about 200MB of disk space per version. The rest is shared between all the versions installed. Leaving the tutorials on the disk will consume a couple of GB more. Also each version from 8.5 through X3 contain plug-ins not included in newer versions.
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 21:56:39 (permalink)
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Only one license for Melodyne is issued with SONAR. You received yours with X3. Melodyne will show as part of Platinum but it is the same license. Do not bother with installing Melodyne again. Platinum will pick up the previous install although it will show as not installed in the Command Center. 
 
You can also skip Rapture and Dpro.
 
If you want to delete old versions of SONAR do it before installing Platinum but if you have the space, it is best to leave them installed. If you manually delete the tutorials in "Cakewalk Content" for each version,  SONAR uses about 200MB of disk space per version. The rest is shared between all the versions installed. Leaving the tutorials on the disk will consume a couple of GB more. Also each version from 8.5 through X3 contain plug-ins not included in newer versions.



Great point about the plugins from previous versions, so i am assuming Platinum has a Melodyne replacement?
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Re: On the Fence about buying Sonar Platinum $149 Upgrade price has me interested 2015/03/14 22:02:39 (permalink)
Cakewalk issues one Melodyne Essential license per SONAR license. You received yours with X3 Producer. This is one reason upgrades from versions of SONAR which did not include Melodyne Essential and new users pay more.
 
Melodyne will be shown in the Command Center but there is no reason to install it if you leave your old installation intact. Especially since the original install was challenging.
post edited by scook - 2015/03/14 22:09:00
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