Keni
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One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
I've got a vocal track that I'm using the PC on for tube, comp, and hi-pass filter...
But I need to gate the cans out of it... and I would prefer to have the gate before the tube, but I also want a ddl after all the mentioned devices...
I know I have ways around this issue so I will get it done, but as I can't insert vst's between PC devices, and there's only one fx bin (before OR after the PC), I can't get both plugins working in the way I usually do...
Some option are to replace the CP (easiest), Or use the gate prePC and use a post send to the ddl on a bus instead of an insert (a pain for me in this situation)...
So I really wish Expanded would raise it's pretty little head... But today's today, and I don't know when to expect it, so I've gotta replace my setup now.... Too bad... but there will be a next time...
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 08:09:22
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I hear you Keni! At least Sonar does provide you ways (although not straight-forward) to work around this short-coming by switching to using VST plugs (not PC, but at least you have an option).
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 08:48:09
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With a buss you do have a down stream FX bin. So you can have FX bin- PC- FX bin in that order.
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 08:59:19
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Rather than gating the cans out you could always automate a volume envelope to remove it.
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 10:03:14
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Yea Keni, ol pal. Why gate when you can just cut or automate?
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Keni
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 10:07:27
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Thanks guys...
I usually edit every clip to remove the noise, but as I did some v-vocal edits earlier in the process than I usually do, I don't want to re-do all the work... That's why the issue came up. I rarely need gates these days as I do usually edit out the noise...
As to using a bus for the secondary processing? Sure, I could do that but it was as easy (easier for me) to use an aux send as I always did in the analog days... ;-)
I was just thinking how this will be easier when there's a gate in the PC...
Thanks again...
Keni
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 10:16:30
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Just think how easy it would've been if you'd never used PC in the first place. There would be no "problem" to deal with now.
Still, I'd bounce any v-vocal edits and then cut out the background noise.
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 10:42:05
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As to using a bus for the secondary processing? Sure, I could do that but it was as easy (easier for me) to use an aux send as I always did in the analog days... ;-) A send goes to a buss right? LOL  The new Expanded should help immensely.
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Keni
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 12:09:34
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Yes, I could have used all vst's instead of PC, but I'm starting to like it...
As to the send to buss? Yes, a send goes to a buss... but it's an AUX send not an inline device... I could have done either...
Expanded will help situations such as this (if the gate is as good or better than the Bias Gate that I use...
Thanks again gang...
Keni
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Re:One Of Those Tough Spots That Might Be About To Have A Cure
2011/10/04 12:35:34
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Although I don't use gates very often either, for some reason I'm looking forward to having a PC version. I can't explain why, but maybe it's because the idea of having a gate along with EQ, compression and saturation just seems "natural". Whatever, I'm looking forward to it too!
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