One more new Thread Sonar X2 Craking sound why!

Hello
( i did read true other Thread about this ) But I'm still stuck.
I used my first Sonar X2 on my old Alienware laptop Mx11  *the lowest stats one* info her

 
There Sonar X2 worked fine. I rember i downloaded somthing to make less delay too my MIDI keyboard and a littel better buffering. Can't remeber what it was.
Anyway the Sonar X2 wokred just fine, not super fast. but sound was ok.
 
Now i got a new big PC. i7 extreme , 32Gb DDR 2000Mhz . 5x Intel SSD 510.  and I use this main board and I use that as sound card. This main board have build in
X-FI chip so I was hoping it wud at last!! Run Sonar at the same quality as my 5500$ cheaper Laptop.

 
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So well i look true all the setting, the Crakling sound won't even go away when i turn it all at lowest. It gets better but not near as good as it shud be!
I used the bufferbar Fast the sound is crazy.  If I go all the way on Slow. Its still not good!!   My littel poor laptop have the bar 40%.  a littel more fast then slow. If you imagen the buffer slide bar. 
 
If its any info, I use SPDIF out on the motherbord to my system.
I have a M-audio interface. But the sound is not going true that. Its on all sound on Sonar, all playback.
 
Pleas. I know I must be the 10000meber asking for this. but I reallt can't figer it out.
 
 

Brando
When you buy a system you should factor a decent sound card into the budget - on board audio is never a good option, What driver are you using for the sound card - that is what driver TYPE are you using? ASIO is generally preferred, then WDM - MME is never going to give low latency/ good performance.

ofc I know on board sound card is bad. but when a 1000$ laptop get me where i need to go.  and make the software works ok for me.  Why dos it work crappy now. Only the motherboard it self is 80% of what the laptop did cost me.  I remeber i did get a Asio4all driver on the laptop too use the MIDI keyboard to get low lantency. but playback was never a problem. not if i did stay under 5 tracks. 
 
The laptop did not support studio sound. The motherboard sound i have now support full EAX 5,1 Advanced HD and it support studio qulity.  but yes, its still a crappy sound card compare too others. But at last it shud work as good as the poor laptop.
 
I have downloaded the new'st driver too the onboard sound.
 
I just dont know what more i can do. turn it all down on low. Still i her the crappy sound craking.  and why dos it do that. Sonar have the abillity to go true the computer and test the diffrent set up. and it automatic set it on the hardware you have. but thats not working good i se.
 
I guss you need more info, can i take any print screen for you?  it has to be somthing wrong.
 
PS - laptop and the PC are running WDM/KS Driver mode.   works ok on laptop. works ****ty on the PC

Eggs are not eggs. Onboard sound is crappy end off.
 
> But at last it shud work as good as the poor laptop.
 
Not necessarily... Your five times more expensive laptop might have five times more crappy onboard sound.
If you have spend loads of money on a laptop at least buy yourself a half decent interface, even if it is a cheap one.

"I have a M-audio interface. But the sound is not going true that.  But the sound is not going true that. Its on all sound on Sonar, all playback."
 
Not sure I understand the second part of this, but why aren't you using M audio interface?  Which one is it?

Yes yes and yes! On board sound sucks. I know it.  I will get a sound card, but like i did say. I was happy how it did run so i was not in a hurry on that part.
Her is the test from the Lantecy software. This did make me even more cunfused!
 
The Alienware Mx11 ( I used it with Sonar X1 )  XXX houers.  Yes buffer was not Fast but way over on the safe side. but it did work ok for me!
INFO  
The software say it cant be used, but it did work. Not good. But ok!
 
The new better system.
INFO      
The software say its ok. But NO. I can turn the buffer bar all the way too Safe! Still its not close as good as the laptop!
 
I really don't understand anything at this moment.
* I see some one talk about the audio interface. * all i did was first make the Sonar software work. I have not recorde or used any in or out on the M-audio card. All i wanted too do first was import a sound clip intoo sonar and playback it.  *first step first* Make the software work.

I did try send the playback out too my M-audio and true my Studio monitors. Still same buffer cklikking sound.
 
Thanks all for helping!  Really Thanks!
best support I have even seen so fast on any forum!
And I'm sorry if my English typing is bad some times. Try my best!
 
PS Added INFO.
 
I have a M-audio Mobilepre amp Mk2  and a Fierwier 410 audio interface.   When i want the sound from Sonar to go true the PC and out true the optical drive and to my 5,1 system. *playback only*   The audio interface are not in use. I use them only when i record instruments or use MIDI keyboard. 
 
all the M-audio gear record sound intoo Sonar with 0 lantancy. but still playback sound is crappy. True sonar- PC  - speaker and true Sonar audiointerface - monitors.
whatever I do. Sound is crakking a lot, even on low setting and really bad compear to the laptop that shud not work (the laytency software say)
 
 

Given this good information (thanks for posting it), I would like to try recording smaller files. Maybe your hard drives are having trouble keeping up.
 
Open Preferences (click P) then go to File > Audio Data > and set Record Bit Depth and Render Bit Depth to 16.
 
Then open a new project and try making a recording.
 
Make sure that all Virus Scanning software is disabled including Windows Defender.

Well i did it all. Now its working, no idea what the problem was. I did all i did say abow. But i did not close down fierwall virus controll ect.  i did defrag,ccleaner ect.
Run Sonar x2  88Sample / 2,0msec.  works fine. No crakling sound.  playback and recording is going good.
Did take some photos anyway tho.  Sorry if the images is a littel big for forum page.
Thanks all for the help! *BIG SMILE*
 






 
 
 
All i need is a sound card =) 

Nice...
(I've just discovered I don't have enough LEDs for music production.)

gswitz
What kinda candy bar has that yellow wrapper?

lol , its a Norwegian Chocolate 

 
 

mgh
so why aren't you using that M-Audio MobilePre as the audio interface again?

I'm using it when i record music and lissten too it wile i produce. Then i use interface and studio monitors. When the prosject is close too done.
I lissen too it true the Bigger Stereo/surround THX system.  =)

robert_e_bone
In case you did not know this, there are really 2 main purposes for having and using a dedicated audio interface, rather than a low-end sound card or on-board sound chip.
 
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Hey robert_e_bone.  If you reaf true my post one more time you will see what i mean and why I use my system like I use it.  but I can tell you one more time and with a more depth why I do it.
 
1. I know Sonar uses Sound that are hard to work on true a on board audio chip, So the CPU need to work a lot more.
I will like to add the info for you that on Sonar you also have the CPU work bar that tell's you how much the CPU are working. I don't get my bar vary much up, whatever I do in Sonar. I wan't to say one more time that i have one of the best i7 extrem CPU's and they handel this type of work vary good. I have no CPU or work lag what so ever.

2. I know Audio interface are there too run the audio for you. Inn and out signals. But then i wan't to tell you one more
time but agene with a littel more depth why I use it like I do.  I use only the Audio interface when I record and When I
run audio rigth true and on the Sound Studio Monitors. To get 0 delay and best sound qulity. But you also need to know. Sonar Producer software are the finaly software to edit you music. So I don't wan't too only use the Studio Monitors. becuse where my music will be playd they don't use studi monitors. So i Wan't to lissen true my music on HI-FI system as well. Too ensure that I'm happy with my results.  If I only keep too the Studio monitors I will only her that best out of it. But I need to know how it will sound true stander speaker as well. becuse in the end its there it will be playd.

3. There is one more reasun why I don't always use audio interface. Some time I make sounds and things in Surround. Standar or the audio interface I have do not support 5.1. not many audio interface do this. I did say what Audio interfacses I use so this I guss you know allready.
 
So I record/eidit with Audio interface, true keyboard or guitar or use it as a preamp too my Studio Mic.
When it sounds good.
I turn all the sound too the HI-FI X-fi SPDF and too my 5,1 System too lissen too it there. how bad or good it is. Too make it sound good where it all ends up anyway. I bet you know what I mean. A music file with good bass and good sound. Can be like crapp on a bad sound system. but this you can edit true Sonar Producer. So you make the file fit best on all sound system.
 
Now when all is working. Sonar runs smood and fast with or without the sound interface.
Sorry too not tell it out clearly when I did first tell it.
 
I will look for a sound card tho, but where I am now. I don't need any.
Thanks agene all! =)
 

I turn all the sound too the HI-FI X-fi SPDF and too my 5,1 System too lissen too it there. how bad or good it is. Too make it sound good where it all ends up anyway. I bet you know what I mean. A music file with good bass and good sound. Can be like crapp on a bad sound system. but this you can edit true Sonar Producer. So you make the file fit best on all sound system.

 
i'm only glad you didn't post on here when CJay was in his posting pomp, or he may have had a coronary...

@NOR_ken
 
I took no offense to your earlier post - I just have nothing further to add to this.
 
Bob Bone