Opinions of Mackie Control Universal Pro with X1c and soft synths and VSTs

Author
inaheartbeat
Max Output Level: -77 dBFS
  • Total Posts : 679
  • Joined: 2011/08/11 12:19:15
  • Location: Nashua, NH USA
  • Status: offline
2011/10/20 18:08:04 (permalink)

Opinions of Mackie Control Universal Pro with X1c and soft synths and VSTs

Hey there folks. I have been looking at getting a decent control surface for Sonar and was looking at the Mackie Control Universal Pro. I was wondering if anyone has any recent experience with it and X1c and also soft synths and VSTs. In particular:

Kontakt 5, Omnisphere, Trillian, Stylus RMX, and Z3TA 2.1

They supposedly provide a lexan overlay for Sonar but I am hoping that it really integrates seamlessly. After the torture I have gone through just getting a simple Korg nanoKontrol to work I need something that plays nicely.

I don't want to get the Roland VS-700 because I don't need any audio interfaces. I also want a control surface that will work well with other packages if I want to stray out of the land of Sonar.

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me.

PC Audio Labs mobile i7 MC, 3.46 Ghz i7 990X, 12 Gb RAM, 3 750 Gb 7200 RPM drives, 3 USB2, 2 USB 3 ports, firewire, Windows 7 64 bit Pro, Sonar X3e Producer 64 bit, 
#1

4 Replies Related Threads

    FastBikerBoy
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 11326
    • Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36
    • Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re:Opinions of Mackie Control Universal Pro with X1c and soft synths and VSTs 2011/10/21 03:01:37 (permalink)
    Don't have the MCU pro but the pro is just the MCU with USB so I'll add my input anyway.

    You'll be hard pushed to find a better surface protocol than the Mackie one, used by the MCU, BCF 2000 and others. There is an overlay and for general Sonar control it is excellent overall, however.............

    At the present time with the exception of the EQ the PC is out of control reach. There are a few other functions that have gone awry since X1 but they are some of the more obscure. See this post for info on what doesn't work, although a couple of those have never worked.

    I don't use soft synths much but AFAIK they will also be out of the MCUs reach because it doesn't support ACT, so anything you'd normally control via ACT won't work.

    FWIW I use a MCU + XT and also have a BCF I use in ACT mode as well as some ACT control on my ZED-R16. I can control just about everything from that combination although a MCU & BCF would also do the job just as well. I can't comment on the C4 because I don't have one, and I've seen several comment that the BCR isn't that great with ACT but I personally find the BCF pretty good, any limitations I run across are more of a limitation with ACT preset surface, rather than the physical surface.

    All plugins (that are ACT compatible) and in the FX box are controllable via the MCU.

    I could also be wrong about the softsynths, and will stand corrected if someone says you can, but as I said I don't use them much so don't know.

    I don't want to sound too down on the MCU because I think it is great and would definitely buy another. I've also had a little feedback from CW that control surfaces such as the Mackie is one area that will be seeing improvements in the future.

    If the MCU is a bit pricey to find out whether you're going to like it or not a BCF 2000 has "90% of the ability of an MCU at 10% of the price". I used one for a fair time in mackie mode and that's a great piece of kit as well. In fact there is no better value surface out there IMHO. (Note I said value, not the best there is). See the guide I wrote for an idea on its capabilities.

    Hope that helps a little.
    #2
    inaheartbeat
    Max Output Level: -77 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 679
    • Joined: 2011/08/11 12:19:15
    • Location: Nashua, NH USA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Opinions of Mackie Control Universal Pro with X1c and soft synths and VSTs 2011/10/21 06:19:55 (permalink)
    Thanks FBB. That was a very helpful response. The links you pointed to were helpful also. One thing I was wondering was how many tracks this control surface can support. It seems as though it should be unlimited with the ability to go forward and backward by track bank but I have not seen any documentation either way on the MCU Pro for that. I am guessing your experience with the MCU should be similar in this regard.

    PC Audio Labs mobile i7 MC, 3.46 Ghz i7 990X, 12 Gb RAM, 3 750 Gb 7200 RPM drives, 3 USB2, 2 USB 3 ports, firewire, Windows 7 64 bit Pro, Sonar X3e Producer 64 bit, 
    #3
    FastBikerBoy
    Forum Host
    • Total Posts : 11326
    • Joined: 2008/01/25 16:15:36
    • Location: Watton, Norfolk, UK
    • Status: offline
    Re:Opinions of Mackie Control Universal Pro with X1c and soft synths and VSTs 2011/10/21 07:39:52 (permalink)
    Yes it is unlimited on tracks, busses & mains, although obviously only 8 at once with a MCU. Add an extender and you are up to 16, 2 x XTs = 24 total, etc.

    It's possible to step through a bank at a time or move one channel at a time. The assignment between tracks, busses and mains is just a button press. It's very quick and easy to navigate around once you get up to speed with it. It can be used for just about everything, selecting areas, loop points, record punch in points, markers etc, are all set very quickly and easily once the key presses are in memory.

    There's also a master fader as well and a jog wheel, two of the differences between the MCU and BCF.

    I have a trackpad keyboard rather than a separate mouse because of space on my keyboard shelf and I prefer not to use the mouse at all, although of course there are some things that can only be done with a mouse.

    I think it's fair to say once users get used to a control surface going back to a mouse seems slow and awkward. IMHO of course.
    #4
    inaheartbeat
    Max Output Level: -77 dBFS
    • Total Posts : 679
    • Joined: 2011/08/11 12:19:15
    • Location: Nashua, NH USA
    • Status: offline
    Re:Opinions of Mackie Control Universal Pro with X1c and soft synths and VSTs 2011/10/21 08:34:44 (permalink)
    Yea I definitely want a surface with a jog wheel. A while back I took my old VS-880 EX and jury rigged that as a control surface. I don't want to go through that again cause that was is just not useful anymore. I have been using AC-7 and my iPad 2 and also a Korg nanoKontrol. All just hacky solutions for now.

    PC Audio Labs mobile i7 MC, 3.46 Ghz i7 990X, 12 Gb RAM, 3 750 Gb 7200 RPM drives, 3 USB2, 2 USB 3 ports, firewire, Windows 7 64 bit Pro, Sonar X3e Producer 64 bit, 
    #5
    Jump to:
    © 2024 APG vNext Commercial Version 5.1