Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider?

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2013/02/01 19:40:24 (permalink)

Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider?

This looks like a fantastic plug in, almost too good to be true.  Worth the current $99 dollar price tag?
 
Normally I spend a huge amount of time manually automating vocals before adding compression or other effects, this sounds like it could be a big time saver.


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    bapu
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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/01 20:13:38 (permalink)
    At times it has been a time saver for me.
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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/01 21:12:38 (permalink)
    Bapu - Does it take away the need to meticulously control your vocal automation?  Or are my hopes too high for this thing?


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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/01 21:26:21 (permalink)
    LpMike75


    Bapu - Does it take away the need to meticulously control your vocal automation?  Or are my hopes too high for this thing?

    In my experience, yes. YMMV.
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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/01 22:17:39 (permalink)
    I have it and it works great..

    Only thing is...in Sonar you lose the Side Chain ability, as it
    requires VST 3 support, which Sonar does not yet support.


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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/01 23:31:30 (permalink)
    Thank you for the response and info Bapu and Cclarry


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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/02 00:02:36 (permalink)
    An alternative to Vocal Rider is MeldaProduction's MAutoVolume, which does the same kind of thing, and includes a sidechain function that works in Sonar:
     
    http://www.meldaproduction.com/plugins/product.php?id=MAutoVolume
     
    Less expensive, too.  Demo both and choose the one you like!
     
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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/03 10:29:42 (permalink)
    Both Vocal and Bass Rider are awesome and effortless. Compress lightly/to taste and keep your dynamics and ride the rest. I love them.
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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/03 19:29:51 (permalink)
    i usally don't use it a lot but when i do , it does the work great ..usually before compression to help compressor to do just a little work ....try it on all , not only vocals ....somtime it works ...sometime crap .....depends on the type of sound of course ....

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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/03 20:01:19 (permalink)
    >I have it and it works great.. Only thing is...in Sonar you lose the Side Chain ability, as it 
    requires VST 3 support, which Sonar does not yet support. <


    I'm not following that.  I didn't think it worked in SONAR at all because of the VST 3 thing.  To what extent DOES it work in SONAR?  (And why would you "sidechain" anyway--aren't you just trying to work with audio on one track at a time anyway?)



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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/03 20:24:57 (permalink)
    Jerry,

    It works just fine for auto-leveling...

    Waves plugins require VST 3 support for their Side Chain abilities.

    With the Side Chain feature you can:

    With a few programs (Pro Tools, Nuendo, Cubase, and Studio One), you can even feed a mix of the music into Vocal Rider’s sidechain. This insures that the vocal is not only consistent with itself, but can change if the music changes— louder during loud parts, neutral (no boost) during softer passages.

    If you create a buss for the mix, then feed that mix buss to the Side Chain of the Vocal Rider, it will
    insure that the Vocal "stays out front" based on the mix content...so to speak...

    Hope that helps!
    post edited by cclarry - 2013/02/03 20:27:34


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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/03 20:40:24 (permalink)
    Thank you for the info guys


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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/04 10:30:42 (permalink)
    Thanks for the explanation ccLarry!  I may have to get this now.

    >With a few programs (Pro Tools, Nuendo, Cubase, and Studio One), you can even feed a mix of the music into Vocal Rider’s sidechain. This insures that the vocal is not only consistent with itself, but can change if the music changes— louder during loud parts, neutral (no boost) during softer passages. <

    I wonder how close you could come to this by taking the automation from the Vocal Rider track, copying and "inverting the phase" then onto the music mix bus--maybe tweaking it a little...?


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    Re:Opinions on Waves Vocal Rider? 2013/02/04 10:33:12 (permalink)
    Hmmm...where are you finding it for $99?
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