Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? [SOLVED]

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Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? [SOLVED]

I've been trying to get an optical signal into my Focusrite 18i8 but so far, none of the devices I've tried has worked. Most recently, I've been trying to connect the optical output of my PC's soundcard to the 18i8 audio interface but I haven't had any luck.

Is this even possible? If it is, what needs to be done to get this working?

Answer: The optical output from my PC is S/PDIF. On the other hand, my audio interface has ADAT in. The two don't speak the same language.
post edited by Samuel540 - 2017/01/03 12:02:24

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 07:01:07 (permalink)
    What is the on-board PC soundcard?
    Is the optical output of this souncard active?  
     
    If you put a fiber light pipe cable into it you should see a red light shining out the end to show it is active.
     

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 08:11:14 (permalink)
    Is the digital output set as Default Audio Playback device?   May be one reason.

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 08:29:32 (permalink)
    What make/model is your sound card?

    Does it have ADAT optical out or more likely SPDIF optical out?

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 09:18:41 (permalink)
    Works here, optical out from the motherboard; you will see it glowing red as described above.
    That into the RME Babyface.
    Looks like this in SONAR when selecting the optical input.

    Notice I'm using "friendly" names for my I\O.
    Make sure your optical input is selected in Preferences>Audio>Devices
    And you have to assign your PC audio out to the optical in Control Panel (Win 7 anyway),
    again as described above.
    Wish you could select both there, analog and digital...
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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 21:46:23 (permalink)
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    What make/model is your sound card?

    Does it have ADAT optical out or more likely SPDIF optical out?

    I think I've found the problem.
    As you pointed out, the optical out on my PC's soundcard is probably SPDIF. Not ADAT like on the 18i8.

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 21:48:49 (permalink)
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    What is the on-board PC soundcard?
    Is the optical output of this souncard active?  
     
    If you put a fiber light pipe cable into it you should see a red light shining out the end to show it is active.


    I can see the red light at the end off the cable but I think I've figured out why it's not working... my PC's optical out is most-likely SPDIF, not ADAT like the input of my audio interface.

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/01 21:55:34 (permalink)
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    Works here, optical out from the motherboard; you will see it glowing red as described above.
    That into the RME Babyface.
    Looks like this in SONAR when selecting the optical input.

    Notice I'm using "friendly" names for my I\O.
    Make sure your optical input is selected in Preferences>Audio>Devices


    Did you get it working?
    In my case, the optical output of my PC is SPDIF, not ADAT. The optical input of my audio interface is ADAT. That's where the problem is.

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/02 10:57:38 (permalink)
    Did you get it working?
    It works.
    I assume you are trying to record from YouTube?
    You have to set Windows Sound like this

    If your optical cable is "hot" (glowing red) I think it should work.
    The Realtek on board audio is pretty generic, most motherboards have it; right?
    You might have to look at Device Manager and be sure the Realtek is active.
    Make sure your ADAT in is selected in SONAR Preferences>Audio>Devices
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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/02 11:39:24 (permalink)
    I think the issue is as the OP has found. There is both multi channel and stereo digital optical in/out using the same connection. The device has to support one or the other. On board sound cards have that connection to use with a Multi channel as in 5.1 or 7.1 home theatre systems.   There has always been funky ways to use it for DAW recording,,but. I would think that's not the same as ADAT. 
     
    It's irrelevant anyways. You access the ADAT in/ out via the USB ( Firewire) connection to the interface using the ASIO driver. 
    There's no point in using the connection from your sound card, besides, you can't use ASIO mode and to see the sound card active in Sonar. You would need to swicth to an inferior mode. In Toms Post #8  it clearly shows his Fireface USB output via the Stereo ADAT. That is not using the on board connection. 

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/02 11:39:30 (permalink)
    Samuel540
    I've been trying to get an optical signal into my Focusrite 18i8 but so far, none of the devices I've tried has worked. Most recently, I've been trying to connect the optical output of my PC's soundcard to the 18i8 audio interface but I haven't had any luck.

    Is this even possible? If it is, what needs to be done to get this working?



    Though the toslink port is the same, ADAT Lightpipe (8-channels of 44.1/48k) and optical S/PDIF (two channels) are different formats.  If you can switch the Focusrite's toslink port to "optical S/PDIF" (instead of Lightpipe), it'll work.
     

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/02 12:13:03 (permalink)
    In Toms Post #8  it clearly shows his Fireface USB output via the Stereo ADAT.
    That is not using the on board connection.
    Well meaning, but not accurate. The INPUT to SONAR is the optical signal from the MB;
    into the RME via lightpipe.
    The screen shot (above) clearly shows I have selected Stereo ADAT as the INPUT.
    As always Jim is absolutely correct, and I missed it, the RME recognizes that the input is SPDIF
    as illustrated below.

    Input Status SPDIF
    But again, as always, "why am I not surprised?"
    Its an RME; I don't remember having to select SPDIF, evidently the RME just "knows".
    'nuff said
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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/02 14:05:09 (permalink)
    AH,, but I see it say's WDM mode. Is this correct?  I'm just basing my comment on the fact that you cannot access 2 sound cards under ASIO, but as I said, if your in a different driver mode which can be WDM or now we have WASAPI you can access the 2 audio devices. 
    I also find it weird that it says Stereo ADAT? I thought ADAT was 8 channels only. 
    Based on what Jim has stated above  shouldn't it say stereo SPDIF? 

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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/02 15:20:52 (permalink)
    Options just informs you what you "can" do; I'm running ASIO drivers.
    The MB Realtek has nothing to do with SONAR.
    It is my playback device for Windows (this is my office rig, on the StudioCat I have one of the headphone
    outs on the UFX handling Windows, BUT that output is not "active" in SONAR).
    IIRC the OP has never let on what he wants to record, I assume YouTube or something.
    In the Studio I could lightpipe the 8 inputs on my Tascam 1884 (now just my control surface) into the RME.
    I don't record drums, so I don't need the extra inputs.
    As Jim stated above, if the Focusrite will recognize the SPDIF the OP is "golden". If not; he's SOL.
    Well, he could go RME.
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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/03 08:35:09 (permalink)
    RME gear is expensive...
    But it's nice to never have to give your audio interface a second thought.
    It just works...
     
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    Re: Optical out from PC into ADAT in on an audio interface? 2017/01/03 11:38:52 (permalink)
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    Its an RME; I don't remember having to select SPDIF, evidently the RME just "knows".
    'nuff said
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