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2016/08/09 13:34:50 (permalink)

Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt

The top open e on the nylon guitar sample library is flat.  Is there any way to tune that single note within kontakt?
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 14:48:21 (permalink)
Have you checked for updates? It may have been corrected, I have just tried it and acording to my Korg chromatic tuner it is spot on save for very slight variation in the round robins.
 
 

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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 15:05:24 (permalink)
Listen to this little bit.  It sticks out like a sore thumb.  The backing guitar is tuned, I checked.
 
https://soundcloud.com/david-sprouse-76324214/come-with-me
 
I was wondering if there was something in Kontakt where I could bump it up by a few cents.
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 15:58:35 (permalink)
James Taylor claims that slight de-tuning is best on an acoustic guitar.
 
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 16:09:08 (permalink)
You could probably do it in Kontakt, but there would be several samples for that note, velocity layers and round robins to deal with and it would need some advance Kontakt skills. Maybe I did not detect it because I wasnt playing the offending velocity layer sample?? On the odd occasion I have made a kontakt instrument I tuned the samples before mapping them in Kontakt.
 
Melodyne could be used on the bounced audio track but you would need editor, not the version that comes bundled with Sonar.
 
You could try contacting Greg at OTS, he is usually ultra helpful.
 

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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 16:22:59 (permalink)
Reminds me of the time my son (15 at the time) was using my Ensoniq EPS sampler to lay down a bass line. He claims that one sample was out of tune. I tell him "impossible, it's a commercial sample. I'll show you, we'll hook up a tuner." Red faced I was when that note would not bring the tuner dead center. Off by about 3 cents. All the other notes were dead on.
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 16:30:38 (permalink)

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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 16:31:55 (permalink) ☄ Helpfulby Fleer 2016/08/09 17:03:11
Bapu, that's not jt, that's Warren Beatty.  
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 16:44:28 (permalink)
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Bapu, that's not jt, that's Warren Beatty.  


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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 17:07:22 (permalink)
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 17:16:38 (permalink)
The hardest part about tuning guitars, nylon guitar in particular, is how the initial pluck tends to be sharper than the sustain. That tuning drift makes it tough to get an average tuning that works.
 
The open E is maybe around a cent flat. If you'd like I can send you an NKI with that adjusted--just PM me your email address. If it turns out well, the tuning change(s) will make it into the next update of course.

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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 17:19:34 (permalink)
Greg,
 
Don't let James Taylor know what you're doing. LMAO!!
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 17:29:20 (permalink)
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The hardest part about tuning guitars, nylon guitar in particular, is how the initial pluck tends to be sharper than the sustain. That tuning drift makes it tough to get an average tuning that works.
 
The open E is maybe around a cent flat. If you'd like I can send you an NKI with that adjusted--just PM me your email address. If it turns out well, the tuning change(s) will make it into the next update of course.


Thanks Greg,  it's just me.  I've played classical guitar for 25 years...never got used to the tuning problems of the instrument.  It always sounds wacky to me.  It'd be nice though if one could do that in Kontakt, just tune a single file up or done a couple cents.  Thanks for your attention.
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 19:32:12 (permalink)
It IS a wonderful instrument, that OTS Evolution Modern Nylon guitar!

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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 19:35:26 (permalink)
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Re: Orange Tree Samples Evolution Modern Nylon Guitar in Kontakt 2016/08/09 21:16:34 (permalink)
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Reminds me of the time my son (15 at the time) was using my Ensoniq EPS sampler to lay down a bass line...



The EPS was the first non-piano keyboard I ever bought.  Ed, you're in the LA area, right?  Maxed out my first credit card at West LA Music... My gosh, when I think of all of the music stores I used to frequent in the 80s and 90s (All gone AFAIK)... My first Electric piano at Reed's Music on Vermont, an Alesis keyboard at Merrill's Music in Santa Monica, a music stand and metronome from Amendola's in Inglewood, score paper at Judy Green's... a dozen different pawn shops... Ah, those were fun, exciting years for this youngster...

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