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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 13:30:58
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Made my day. I missed out on the Rick's introductory price the first time around. Now here's a sale just in time for my birthday! If it hits the 50% mark I'll be tempted to add Evolution Acoustic too.
I just hope ST3 doesn't come out next week after I've already spent all my allowance. ;)
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 13:38:59
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I've been thinking of getting some Orange in my life, and this looks like my ticket. Now, to decide which one(s) will be the most easiest/most useful will be my biggest problem......lol (especially since I don't really "need" anything in particular). 
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 13:41:28
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IF ST3 shows up you'll have YEARS AND YEARS to get it. Get that Ric bass, you know you want it.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 14:08:50
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I've been thinking of getting some Orange in my life, and this looks like my ticket. Now, to decide which one(s) will be the most easiest/most useful will be my biggest problem......lol (especially since I don't really "need" anything in particular).
Mesh, if you're already covered for guitars and basses, take a look at the flutes and the Lap Steel for something different.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 14:17:53
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IF ST3 shows up you'll have YEARS AND YEARS to get it.
LOL - my type of ihumour!!!!
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 14:33:12
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Mesh
I've been thinking of getting some Orange in my life, and this looks like my ticket. Now, to decide which one(s) will be the most easiest/most useful will be my biggest problem......lol (especially since I don't really "need" anything in particular).
Mesh, if you're already covered for guitars and basses, take a look at the flutes and the Lap Steel for something different.
Thanks Bit.....As far as Kontakt is concerned, I only have the Scarbee Jay Bass and a modern 5 string bass amped from Lyrical Distortion, so Rick might be a very good option and all of you have said it's excellent.......the other one from OT that I've been thinking about getting is the Acoustic guitar (hopefully @ 50%).
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 14:58:24
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The acoustic guitar is pretty good, but I haven't gotten it yet because a) I have several other acoustic guitar libraries and b) in a pinch I can actually be bothered to get out a real acoustic guitar and play it. But if the price is right, it'd complement what I've already got.
The Rick, OTOH, will fill a hole in my current instrument collection. I have to use distortion and layering and compression to get an aggressive bass sound from my present libraries. The Rick should do better right out of the box. Plus I like to use slides on bass parts, and that's an area where Greg's scripting shines. Greg's also done a great job on the presets, letting you quickly choose a starting point based on your favorite famous Rickenbacker player.
BTW, I've got that amped bass from Lyrical Distortion too (along with all their other basses and guitars). Not a bad little library for the price, but rather lifeless compared to the OTS basses.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 15:10:11
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Only 3 away from 15% off!
Purrrfect Audio DAW here. Wow!...
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 15:41:28
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It's only been two hours, and we've already reached the 15% OFF tier!
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 15:47:24
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@bit I consult to OTS, so you can take my opinion with a grain of salt if you like, but I am a sample user and that's how my relationship with Greg/OTS began, as a customer who is a huge fan. Evolution Electric Bass - Rick sets a new standard for other devs to catch up with, just like Jaco did a couple of years ago. Check out the videos and ask current users. One of my issues with sampled bass guitars (and ftr, my other favorite bass guitar sample dev has been Scarbee), is that if you play the same note for 8ths for a bar or two, like bands like Snow Patrol, Cold Play and many metal bands often do, there's just not enough round robins in almost every KONTAKT bass library on the market to keep it from sounding fake. So, for a long time I have been bending Greg's ear about addressing this shortcoming. And the Rick library nails this better than any library I know of (it has It has 32x round-robin and 3 morphing velocity layers), plus it has brilliant scripting and I LOVE THE PRESETS (those are a big deal to me, although I realize they're not as big of a deal to hardcore tweakers; I really value ease of use and the ability to quickly understand how to play an instrument and get great sounds -- I prefer to write, play and produce music than tweak -- although I realize there's a ton of options here for tweakers, it's just not my thing personally). This library, quite literally, sets a new standard for other sample devs to catch up with in terms of bass guitar libraries. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXMYHxGaT6w
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 17:13:21
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Actually, I hate round-robins. At least as implemented in most of the libraries I have. If they're too dissimilar, you get a different performance every time, making it harder to mix. I've occasionally had to modify sample libraries because note volumes were not consistent. With round-robins that becomes an especially tedious process. Conversely, if the round-robins are too similar, you're just wasting RAM.
32x round-robins would normally not be a selling point for me. If a bass player couldn't play the same note the same way more than 1 in 32 times in a row I'd be suggesting we use a sample library instead.
However, it would seem (based on the demos) that Greg's managed to find that delicate balance between annoying randomness and boring sameness.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 18:26:36
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@bit I actually agree with what you're saying when it comes to certain developers who poorly execute round robins, but I haven't found that is the case any of Orange Tree Samples' libraries (or Scarbee's libraries, ftr) . But I do have libraries with the kinds of problems that you're describing. Heck, I have an older guitar library from another very well known and respected long time sample developer where he or someone else coughs near the end of one of the samples making it completely unusable. I have a bunch of guitar/bass libraries from a certain guitar/bass KONTAKT developer -- who seems to have disappeared in the last year or so -- with consistently poorly executed round robins that have a slew of problems including bad tuning. I'm also familiar with a drum library that features a sample where the drummer yelps before a the drum hit (a snare; he yelps before the hit on the main sample, but not on the round robin). IMO, I would not want virtually any kind of sample library without round robins today, especially for guitar, bass, strings, drums and percussion. But if it's not done well, of course, that's a major problem. But if you just don't like round robins, you always have the option to turn them off.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 19:50:39
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Only 2 away from 20% off!
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2013/09/18 20:49:46
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We've reached the 20% off tier and heading towards the 30% off tier!!!
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 20:54:32
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The Group Buy is now at 51 people -- the 20% discount level -- only several hours after the sale launched! I strongly suspect this Group Buy is going to reach the maximum discount level (50% off @ 250 participants) pretty fast. Here's the link for anyone looking to join the Group Buy: http://www.orangetreesamples.com/gb/
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 22:45:21
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There will be some good deals here. I have all the guitar and bass libraries except Pear. I may go for Passion Flute as it would fill a hole, got lots of flute sounds but not that aggressive rock flute sound.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 23:12:43
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...I have an older guitar library from another very well known and respected long time sample developer where he or someone else coughs near the end of one of the samples making it completely unusable.
I have one from a well-respected developer that has "beam me up, Scottie!" buried in a guitar sample. I assumed it was a sort of watermark.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/18 23:57:26
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Actually, I hate round-robins. At least as implemented in most of the libraries I have. If they're too dissimilar, you get a different performance every time, making it harder to mix. I've occasionally had to modify sample libraries because note volumes were not consistent. With round-robins that becomes an especially tedious process. Conversely, if the round-robins are too similar, you're just wasting RAM. I know exactly what you mean--there's nothing worse than playing and having a random round-robin sample stick out like a sore thumb. When recording the round-robin samples for EEB Rick, I played everything as consistently and naturally as possible. Depending on how much memory you want to allot to EEB Rick, you can set different round-robin amounts. Personally, I usually keep it at 4x round-robin, and then boost the setting to the full 32x right before rendering. Another issue you touched on is the unpredictability of round-robin. It can be a nuisance having to render a track several times until you get *just* the right round-robin samples happening in the right places. That's why in EEB Rick, the round-robin automatically resets after a second or so of silence just to keep things more predictable. And just in case, there's also a round-robin reset key that you can press to manually reset the round-robin.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/19 00:47:58
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I am interested in Strawberry Electric and Acoustic Steel Strings, but have a question for you who own the Acoustic Steel. Does it have a "strummer" or a strumming step sequencer like the one in the Strawberry Electric? I can't find reference or videos that show strumming the Acoustic.
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2013/09/19 04:43:55
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I am interested in Strawberry Electric and Acoustic Steel Strings, but have a question for you who own the Acoustic Steel. Does it have a "strummer" or a strumming step sequencer like the one in the Strawberry Electric? I can't find reference or videos that show strumming the Acoustic.
Yes.
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2013/09/19 08:23:56
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I'm on the fence between OTS Acoustic Guitar and the ones from Amplesound. Based on Greg's posts, I'll likely jump on OTS, but does anyone have both?
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/19 10:02:26
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I am interested in Strawberry Electric and Acoustic Steel Strings, but have a question for you who own the Acoustic Steel. Does it have a "strummer" or a strumming step sequencer like the one in the Strawberry Electric? I can't find reference or videos that show strumming the Acoustic.
Yes.
The answer is "no." I've got EAG and there is no strumming step seqeuncer as there is on the electric version. I have no idea why.
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/19 10:36:57
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The answer is "no." I've got EAG and there is no strumming step sequencer as there is on the electric version. I have no idea why.
I am not at my DAW and I can't check now, but I am sure there was a strum sequencer. I prefer my strum triggers in a MIDI track so its not a feature I use so its not inconceivable I was mistaken. IFRC there was an update. Are you sure you have the latest version.
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2013/09/19 10:45:58
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The answer is "no." I've got EAG and there is no strumming step sequencer as there is on the electric version. I have no idea why.
I am not at my DAW and I can't check now, but I am sure there was a strum sequencer. I prefer my strum triggers in a MIDI track so its not a feature I use so its not inconceivable I was mistaken. IFRC there was an update. Are you sure you have the latest version.
Yep, I'm running the July 2013 update version as we speak. There is no strum sequencer as shown on the Electric version's youtube vid. I wish it did have that as I prefer a strum sequencer. For the record, EAG is still great.
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2013/09/19 11:00:33
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I found these two replies from Greg in a post at the KVR forums...... http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=349007&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15&sid=2e2e30d6288e3b90c647df26feb8c6f5 "You're right--I actually have a couple of MIDI patterns that could be easily converted to Evolution's native strumming pattern format for starters. The nice thing is that the same pattern files will work in both EEG Strawberry as well as EAG Steel Strings." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The blank preset is called "- Init Preset -.nka". It's in the data folder where all the other presets are.As for the strumming patterns, check out these two video tutorials on how to load and use them as well as make your own patterns:http://youtu.be/0rC9cZKGuDohttp://youtu.be/y5H4lOev9noThe built-in pattern editor was discontinued a while ago because of its limitations--for example, using triplets and more complex rhythms as well as patterns longer than a measure. The nice part about the new system is that you can create the pattern within your DAW itself, giving you a more familiar work environment as well as all the creation capabilities accessible there."
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Re: Up to 50% OFF Everything! Our Biggest Sale Ever Starts Now!
2013/09/19 11:04:46
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I know exactly what you mean--there's nothing worse than playing and having a random round-robin sample stick out like a sore thumb. When recording the round-robin samples for EEB Rick, I played everything as consistently and naturally as possible.
Depending on how much memory you want to allot to EEB Rick, you can set different round-robin amounts. Personally, I usually keep it at 4x round-robin, and then boost the setting to the full 32x right before rendering.
Another issue you touched on is the unpredictability of round-robin. It can be a nuisance having to render a track several times until you get *just* the right round-robin samples happening in the right places. That's why in EEB Rick, the round-robin automatically resets after a second or so of silence just to keep things more predictable. And just in case, there's also a round-robin reset key that you can press to manually reset the round-robin.
And this is why you are the king of bass sample libraries, Greg. Being able to select the degree of round-robin-ness is a great feature.
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2013/09/19 11:10:04
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Yes, EAG does have a strum sequencer, and comes with a strum pattern library. You can load a bunch of patterns and switch between them with keyswitches.
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2013/09/19 11:29:24
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Yes, EAG does have a strum sequencer, and comes with a strum pattern library. You can load a bunch of patterns and switch between them with keyswitches.
I think there's confusion on what we're talking about. Acoustic DOES have what bit describes above. But that's not a strumming STEP sequencer. Electric does have one it would seem although perhaps it was discontinued (as found in the quote above) in favor of letting users use their DAW's sequencers? Here's the video--Indeed, it appears this is an old feature: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRp9cD4cThI EDIT: I'm not trying to come across harsh. I just think some may have misinterpreted the original question. I'll also admit that maybe I'm the one that misinterpreted.
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The step sequencer was left out back when the Evolution engine updated to Kontakt 4 in favor of a strumming recording system. The strumming recording system relies on your DAW's own sequencer for pattern creation. These patterns are then transferred into Evolution, and are saved as pattern files that can be recalled whenever you need them. The nice part about the system is that the patterns can be as many measures long as you need. You can also use complex rhythms, and work in the familiar environment of your DAW's sequencer rather than a limited built-in sequencer. The downside is that there's the extra step when creating patterns of transferring the patterns into Evolution. Also, it's not as convenient for creating quick, simple strumming patterns as a built-in simple pattern editor would be. Right now I'm planning out the next update for the Evolution guitar engine, which will make several major updates. A lot of the changes and additions are based on suggestions I've received over the time that the Evolution guitars have been available. Here's an example of some of the things I want to do: - Upgrade the tone preset system to be like Evolution Electric Bass - Rick, so that you can quickly scroll through factory presets (with their names being shown on the interface) as well as having the usual option of loading and saving external preset files. You can see this system here: http://youtu.be/fXMYHxGaT6w - New built-in pattern sequencer. A step sequencer approach to make pattern editing fast and convenient. For better MIDI integration (e.g. the ability to drag MIDI sequences out of Evolution into your DAW), I would need to use Kontakt 5. I'm still undecided on that aspect, since I always like supporting Kontakt 4 when possible. - Articulation mapping system like what's in EEB Rick. It's easy and intuitive to use, and allows you to get a better idea of the entire mapping from looking at the setup: http://youtu.be/f422i90-iSM - Better expandability. This factor won't affect the end user as much, but will make it much easier for me to release additional guitars faster, not to mention being a flexible system for adding guitars with 7+ strings, different numbers of frets, different assortments of articulations, and so forth.
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