gdugan
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"Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
Hi All, I've been wanting an excuse to play with TruePianos, so I "resurrected" a song from several years ago and did a quick recording. I find it very hard to judge pianos with most of the piano-shootout web sites because there aren't very many examples with pop/rock mixes. Most of the songs I do are piano-driven pop, so I thought this might be a good test. The piano part on this song was recorded a couple of years ago as midi, rendered originally on a Roland keyboard. I was never happy with the sound, especially on this song, and I made several attempts to replace the piano with various VSTs, including Ivory. Now, I think Ivory's great, but I actually think TruePianos rendered the existing Midi better (for this song) than Ivory. I'm actually impressed enough to rerecord/render the pianos on a number of my songs. It's just a quick test; nevertheless I thought I'd share it here, for better or worse. Anyway, the link below is my song page Soundclick. Ordinary Miracles should be at the top. http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=21208
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles"
2008/09/03 02:11:05
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I own Ivory and love it :-) But these keys sound great.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles"
2008/09/03 04:19:01
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I haven't heard Ivory, but this piano sounds great. Nice song too.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles"
2008/09/03 11:39:19
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The piano sounds excellent! Nice song and nice vox!
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles"
2008/09/03 13:13:32
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Good song, and nice job on the vox and piano. I tried out the TruePianos demo, and it's definitely fun to play with.
The mix, according to my computer speakers at work, had the vox a little too hot.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles"
2008/09/03 13:48:40
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This sounds really great, Gary! Great sound, great voice and just great playing. I really like it!
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles"
2008/09/03 14:00:43
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Gary, nice vocals and great piano. TruePianos are my go to keys. I really like the new amber samples too. For those intested in Jamstix too, Rayzoon and 4Front have a sweet cross grade discount agreement.
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gdugan
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/03 14:03:39
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Robby: Thanks for the listen! I'm really starting to like TruePianos a lot. It seems to fit in a mix better than Ivory in many cases. There are also some things that really bug me about Ivory -- the #1 issue is that the middle octave, especially on the Yamaha piano sample, is DEAD compared to the rest of the piano. In my experiance, the middle octave in a sampled piano is the hardest to get right, and while Ivory is excellent otherwise, it makes the deficiency in the middle octave even more frustrating. Darin and Larry: Thanks for checking it out and for the compliments! Douglas: Absolutely right about the vocal level being too hot. I re-arranged some of the busses at the last minute and didn't give the mix a close-enough listen. Apparently the gain structure changed a bit. Janet and Tom: Thanks very much! I appreciate you listening and your comments.
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robby
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/03 14:11:20
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Check out Synthogy's Italian Grand which is an upgrade to Ivory, I have that upgrade and they did a darn good job with it ;-) But there are no complaints about what you posted, really sounds like a mic'ed (well mic'ed) grand.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/03 14:28:00
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Nice tune and the piano is good. You sing well too.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/04 11:08:36
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Really nice work, Gary! Piano sounds really good. I've never used Truepianos but this sounds really good. no critique at all - everything sounds great!
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/04 11:41:51
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Beautiful sound on the keys there. I've got to get me that software. Very nice song too.
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gdugan
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/04 12:22:49
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Herb, Reece, and Mark,
Thanks so much for the kind words! The more I use TruePianos the more impressed with it. Thanks for listening and the replies!
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/04 14:09:14
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Keys sound pretty good to me too.
No real crits to give.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/07 12:21:37
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Gary,
The piano sounds great on this; very natural.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/07 15:42:50
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Hi Gary Cool tune, the mix and the production are both spot on - you have a great voice. The piano sounds perfect on my system BTW  Steve
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/08 01:24:51
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hey Gary, pianos really sound good. been looking for some nice piano sounds too. will definitely look into truepianos and ivory. it's a beautiful song too btw. really nice imho. cheers
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/08 11:59:01
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Shad: Thanks so much for listening!
Ed: Good to hear from you again, and thanks for checking it out.
Steve and Alawn: Thanks for the kind words, and for taking the time to respond.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/09 17:29:23
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This is the first song I have heard with TruePianos. Sounds very good.
Nice song, too. Well done.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/09 17:36:46
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Great tune, great playing, vocals, everything. Really nice song.
I've been considering TruePiano's, gonna get the Demo tomorrow and have a further look.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/09 22:29:33
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Good job Gary! I'm interested in how you recorded your vocals, they sound very clean. Just curious what mic, preamp, fx and eq you may be using.
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RE: "Ordinary Miracles" - TruePianos
2008/09/10 11:56:55
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Jeff, Anthony & Tom,
Thanks so much for listening and also for the kind words!
Tom, the vocal chain was:
Mic: U-87 -> Pre: Studio Projects VTB-1 -> Comp: RNC -> Converter: RME Fireface 800.
The mix had a little Sonitus EQ, UAD-1 LA-2A and Plate 140
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