pilutiful
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Organ VST instrument
Hi all,
Can anyone recommend great sounding Organ VST instruments? Hammond organs or any....for ballads and rock.
I bought Cakewalk Sound Center: Hammond B-3 Organ by DSF which is quite good sounding, but I would like to try something more dedicated VST instrument.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 08:38:00
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Re: Organ VST instrument
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 08:46:30
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 08:57:35
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☄ Helpfulby simeon 2016/09/11 15:41:39
GSI has a 64 bit version called VB3! There are too many jaw-dropping features to go into. The GUI is pretty ugly to look at but it wins over all the rest as far as I'm concerned!
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 09:00:52
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Thanks to all!
Regarding NI Vintage Organs, ss there a 15 minutes limitation when using with the free Kontakt Player?
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 09:05:01
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☄ Helpfulby thepianist65 2016/09/09 13:09:17
Glyn Barnes
For Hammond VB3 is as good as it gets http://www.genuinesoundware.com/?a=showproduct&b=24
+1 VB3 is also the engine for the world's greatest clonewheel instrument, the Crumar Mojo. You can also use its excellent distortion and Leslie effects with other tracks, as the effects portion comes as a separate plugin. Best of all, at 50 bucks it's the cheapest Hammond out there.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 11:00:41
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Thanks to all!
Would you say that VB3 is as good as (or better) than the ones in NI Vintage Organs? just curious :-)
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 11:15:45
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pilutiful
Thanks to all!
Would you say that VB3 is as good as (or better) than the ones in NI Vintage Organs? just curious :-)
It reacts like a real B3, where the NI ones are sampled. Dan
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 11:42:20
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☄ Helpfulby pilutiful 2016/09/09 13:29:16
pilutiful
Thanks to all!
Regarding NI Vintage Organs, ss there a 15 minutes limitation when using with the free Kontakt Player?
No, it only needs the player, there is no limitation. pilutiful
Would you say that VB3 is as good as (or better) than the ones in NI Vintage Organs? just curious :-)
As I mentioned in my original post I think VB3 is the winner for Hammond sounds, Vintage Organs is still pretty good and adds the transistor organs so it is more versatile. Its also more expensive.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 12:33:11
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I've put it off for a while but by the end of the year the VB3 will be mine. It sounds SO real in the demos.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 12:53:38
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bitflipper
You can also use its excellent distortion and Leslie effects with other tracks, as the effects portion comes as a separate plugin.
32bit only on the FX AFAIK. I've never seen a 64bit fx plugin.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 15:30:59
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Insert two of them then, and you'll have 64 bits total.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/09 18:10:34
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bitflipper
Insert two of them then, and you'll have 64 bits total.
Well played.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 10:45:08
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Another vote for VB3.
I have NI Vintage as well as VB3. VB3 is my goto "B"
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 11:05:49
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bitflipper
Insert two of them then, and you'll have 64 bits total.
Well played.
I must be off on my binaries. I would assume 4,294,967,295 additional would have to be inserted.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
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bapu
bitflipper
Insert two of them then, and you'll have 64 bits total.
Well played.
I must be off on my binaries. I would assume 4,294,967,295 additional would have to be inserted.
So, you've counted all my VSTs then?
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Re: Organ VST instrument
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☄ Helpfulby bapu 2016/09/10 12:14:50
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So, you've counted all my VSTs then?
So that was your limit!
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 12:15:19
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bapu
So, you've counted all my VSTs then?
So that was your limit!
For last week, ya.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 12:19:25
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bapu
So, you've counted all my VSTs then?
So that was your limit!
For last week, ya.
Yes, sorry, you're on 64-bit...
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 13:23:45
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Just a recommendation for the AcousticSamples B5, which I think sounds more purely tonefully good than the VB3, which I also have. Plus you get the bass pedals which by themselves can be a cool instrument.
The VB3 gets the nod in the leslie effects department however.
Your nods may vary.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 16:52:05
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Tying out ni vintage organ and VB3. Both sounds great! NI one seems to have fixed rotor speeds which is a minus (unless I missed it). Acousticsamples will be next. Sure looks interesting :)
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/10 20:10:31
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Vintage Organ and its predecessor B4 sound great, and they should because they're sampled so you're hearing the real thing in there. But because they're sampled they also fall short of the wide range of possibilities of a Hammond organ.
VB3, by contrast, is a wavetable synthesizer. Sounds are generated on the fly, so they don't have to be static. You can automate the things that organists tweak during a performance: Leslie speed, drawbars, percussion, vibrato and even amp distortion. Play the part on a light-touch synth keyboard and the result can be superb, indistinguishable from a real B3 performance.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/11 02:17:05
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Vintage organs is samples but you can still automate most, if not all of the parameters, most importantly the drawbars because you are mixing individual samples of each drawbar not playing a preset registration.
Fast/slow Leslie by default is assigned to the sustain pedal.
VB3's amp and Leslie simulation is way ahead of the generic Kontakt effects used by VO but VO does have the option of other amps and cabs. That said I prefer to run the Hammonds in VO with the effects off an use Melda's MVintageRotary.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/11 10:07:44
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/11 11:33:57
bapu
beltrom
bapu
bitflipper
Insert two of them then, and you'll have 64 bits total.
Well played.
I must be off on my binaries. I would assume 4,294,967,295 additional would have to be inserted.
So, you've counted all my VSTs then?
Note to Forum peeps: that number was accurate for 11 minutes, 16 seconds. I hope this was helpful.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
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☄ Helpfulby cclarry 2016/09/11 13:21:54
Thus spoke B-dad, official member of the BVCC (Bapuji VST Counting Club).
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Re: Organ VST instrument
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☄ Helpfulby Soundwise 2016/09/13 13:44:12
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AIR DB-33 is awesome. Definitely check it out.
http://www.airmusictech.com/product/db-33
+1 for the DB-33 Tonewheel Organ Simulator. Came with my AIR instrument collection. Like the Velvet is to a Fender Rhodes, these organ sounds are realistic. Never had the opportunity to play a real B3, or any of the other VST's mentioned here, but this thing sounds better than any organ samples I've ever heard in a synth. DB-33 Tonewheel Organ is a virtual organ that recreates the sounds and controllability of classic tonewheel organs such as the Hammond B3, and the rotary-speaker cabinets they are often played through. It includes 122 preset sounds plus an extra-realistic convolution rotary cabinet and tube overdrive emulation. The rotary-speaker cabinet can also be used as an effect in its own right on an audio track. Trial version available. Edit: was curious to see if the installer loaded any factory sample content, like a few of the AIR products do. This one does not, in fact the installer is relatively small. So if it's not modelling, it must be wavetable based. There are other products from AIR that do not appear to be sample based, so this could be some combination of their tech. These are Hybrid 3 (basic waveforms and wavetable), Loom (additive), and VacuumPro (virtual analog).
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/11 16:38:09
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Arturia now have Hammond, Vox and Farafisa organs in their V collection. These area modeled but they have put a lot of effort into "non realistic" options arguably at the expense of getting the best authentic sound. There are some interesting modulation options on the Hammond that go way beyond the original instrument. I particularly like their Farfisa where aftertouch controls the knee lever and the various effects produce some very nice sounds. Not your definitive VSTi organs, but they are different.
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Re: Organ VST instrument
2016/09/12 09:25:49
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Thus spoke B-dad, official member of the BVCC (Bapuji VST Counting Club).
Back off Buster, I was marked as helpful. So...
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