"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise Remix 9-4

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2011/09/01 12:23:46 (permalink)

"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise Remix 9-4

Hi All, this started as an arpeggio exercise on guitar, ended up as this :

http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=11009586

or

http://soundcloud.com/rik-frieling/ouverture

Have a listen if you like.

Rik


Edit, added CC envelopes and Janet provided extra string sounds, thanks J. Left the original on soundcloud if you want to compare
post edited by morenoise - 2011/09/04 07:20:46
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 12:46:41 (permalink)
    Excellent piece. Sounds pretty convincing. Though I must point out two things that "break the spell" for me:
    1. there are way too many highs. Roll off the top end considreably. You would never hear that kind of upper end response on a real orchestra
    2. The vibrato on the violin just goes on and on and on...there has to be a way to tame that down, as the real long notes sound fake with such perfect vibrato.
     
    What are you using for this?
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 13:01:22 (permalink)
    Hi James, thanks for listening, I used Dimension LE that was included in X-1 for the main "violin" part and the pizzicato strings. Expressive strings from CW Soundcenter and a musicbox from tts. Probably shouldn't have used an exciter on the strings . I'm pretty new to this midi stuff, maybe I should find out what those CC's do.

    Rik



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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 14:49:13 (permalink)
    Hi Rik - Lovely piece. Not sure why, but as soon as I heard the first notes, I 'saw' a ballerina dancing onto the stage. Alone and exhausted, she was lost in a dark, misty landscape. So, all we now need is the music for all the other Acts. No pressure! Handsome Prince on quest. A few passing Swans. She is a Princess but cannot reveal it because of evil spell that will turn her into a frog! Falls in love, tells Prince, becomes frog and is eaten by Swan. Easy! I hate happy endings! Over to you Maestro! Malcolm

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 15:38:26 (permalink)
    Rik,

    Very high caliber piece musically.   I agree with James, the vibrato violin is a little distracting due to the highs and the too consistent volume and vibrato levels.   Beautiful piece, would sound spectacular with VSL.

    Regards
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 16:18:10 (permalink)
    Hi Markno999, thanks for listening, don't know how to control that vibrato, yet.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 16:22:13 (permalink)
    Quote nice and relaxing. For some reason though I want to slap an E-Bowed guitar track on it. =)
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 16:25:23 (permalink)
    Hi Malcolm,well that's the story line sorted. Better get the celeste out then. How many acts did you say ? This one's given me an RSI already 

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 16:28:26 (permalink)
    Hi Drew, thanks for listening, I was thinking a "singing saw", maybe.


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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/01 17:05:13 (permalink)
    Hi James, EQ'd it, how does it sound now.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/02 16:16:07 (permalink)
    Rik, this is quite lovely, in the Philip Glass tradition.  I am a little mystified how this evolved from an arpeggio exercise on guitar!  It might be interesting to do a version of this tune with the guitar part overlaid.

    Honestly, I didn't notice the 'perfect vibrato' until after it was pointed out here -- I think musicians might notice, most of the listening public probably wouldn't.   Hard not to notice once it is pointed out, however.

    In any case, very nice stuff. 

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/02 23:22:58 (permalink)
    You are quite prolific in your studio, don't you?  This is quite beautiful!  Too bad about the RSI, though.  :(  That's one of the touch parts of this addiction.  :(

    I love this though. And I'll help you with that CC work...what little I know, I'll be glad to pass on to you too.  Now if only I could find where I posted it last.  :)
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/02 23:47:37 (permalink)
    Sublime, this is the kind of stuff I want to do my PHD on.

    Really good Ben

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/03 03:19:42 (permalink)
    Hi cwestmont, thanks for listening. I was playing double arpeggio's on the guitar and came up with a nice progression of 15 chords. Played that about five times faster than this though. I used that progression that I was playing on guitar, slowed it way, way, down and used that as the basis for this piece. Added a violin on top, et voilà. 

    Hi Ben, thanks for listening, good luck with that PHD.

    Rik
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/03 03:30:05 (permalink)
    Hi Janet, thanks for taking the time to listen  . Now I know how to put in those CC's, thanks.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/03 14:17:12 (permalink)
    Very nice.   I thought it sounded very authentic.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/03 14:42:25 (permalink)
    Hi Rick, thanks for listening, glad you liked it's authenticity.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/03 16:57:05 (permalink)
    Hi Rik,

    Outstanding piece! Great melody and mood.

    I'd love to hear you incorporate your wonderful guitar playing into something like this...

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/04 05:20:46 (permalink)
    Well arranged and quite calming. I really liked the the changes of key, the best one at the start where you. have a major chord for the first couple of bars and then immediately go minor when the violin plays.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/04 07:24:11 (permalink)
    Hi Gary, thanks for listening, well I did call it an Ouverture, so who knows what will happen next 


    Hi Terry, thanks for listening,glad you liked it. Borrowed the major/minor thing from Janet 


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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/04 07:26:44 (permalink)
    Hi All , Remixed it with added string sounds by Janet and tried to make  the solo string part more expressive by using cc7 and cc11. New mix is on Soundclick, old mix is on Soundcloud.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/04 10:57:36 (permalink)
    Really great piece of music there, Rik.  I just loved what you did with those strings.  Very nice.
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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/06 11:12:33 (permalink)
    Hi Phil, thanks for listening, glad you liked the strings

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/07 17:10:57 (permalink)
    yea...this is a knock out....peaceful and dream-like...

    on nit

    I could have used another 30 minutes or so

    really lovely tune...spot on.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/08 11:15:52 (permalink)
    Hi Tom, thanks for listening, glad you think it's to short ; ) . Maybe there's more to come.

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/08 18:28:23 (permalink)
    superb overture or whatever. reminded me of the Adagio for Strings, in terms of pace and rhythm mainly. i love the almost whole-tone lead at the start, with its major-minor cadence...a key change thing you do in the piece...only its too f'ing short, what were you thinking! actually the first 30secs is my fave thing, i thought you were gonna go all in for something a bit more challenging...dang! sounds are great for dim le! i think most of those cheap/free samples have a natural pace and range in which they sound great, outside of which they are pants...whereas the expensive VSTis can do both...

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    Re:"Ouverture" small symphonic poem by Morenoise 2011/09/09 10:43:04 (permalink)
    Hi Mark, thanks for listening , sorry it;s to !@#@!#$%!!!!!!%%^$&*(%ing short. I obviously wasn't thinking.


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