Owe It All To My Self... (final mix ?)

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Owe It All To My Self... (final mix ?)

Thanks to everyone for the helpful advice and constructive criticism...
I've just uploaded a new improved mix... any & all feedback is welcome & appreciated...
 
a song about one's self image...  
"Owe It All To My Self" (latest mix 9-6-13)
http://tanton.bandcamp.com/track/owe-it-all-to-myself
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/28 23:16:58 (permalink)
    I hadn't heard this one, but you're right. It's better to have a PMA. It's not always easy... The mix sounds great. The BGV sound a little "homogeneous" I'd like to hear them with a bit more of a natural sound. 

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/28 23:28:16 (permalink)
    Nice one Frank, Sounds pretty good to me and some nice textures going on in this song. There is also someone else we owe everything to, but then I believe you already know that. You are blessed and this song shows that part of you. Very nicely done, nice arrangement, instrumentation and a great mix.
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/29 12:15:31 (permalink)
    The Band19
    I hadn't heard this one, but you're right. It's better to have a "PMA". It's not always easy... The mix sounds great. The BGV sound a little "homogeneous" I'd like to hear them with a bit more of a natural sound. 


    Good ears Robby... Thank you...  the Background Vocals we're way over-processed, and the mix was basically a mess... I re-mixed this morning with fresh ears, and I think it sounds much better... please let me know...  as for the "PMA", please read my response to John theguitarplayer's feedback...
     
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    Nice one Frank, Sounds pretty good to me and some nice textures going on in this song. There is also someone else we owe everything to, but then I believe you already know that. You are blessed and this song shows that part of you. Very nicely done, nice arrangement, instrumentation and a great mix.
     Peace and Blessings, John


    Thanks for listening John, and thanks for the great feedback...
    I'm totally hip to what you're saying...
    I wrote this song about 35 years ago while studying psychology in college, I had just read a book about "psycho-cybernetics" and came up with the idea for this lame a$$ song...
    I was young & dumb, very liberal and self-absorbed...
    me-oh-my how I've have changed... I'm still dumb though...
    I think I may change the title of this song to "Cool Fool"
    post edited by notnat - 2013/08/29 14:21:40
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/29 12:56:10 (permalink)
    Frank, Interesting that you took some phycho in college, that was my minor, specialty area in deviant behavior. Oh, how we do change over the years. I'm still dumb too, but then, I'll get over it one of these days. "Cool Fool" seems a bit harsh, but, how about "Man In The Mirror"? We do get to be a little prideful of our accomplishments, just not overly prideful, and always thankful to Him. Just a thought! Great song!!
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/29 20:31:27 (permalink)

     Thanks again John...
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/29 21:08:35 (permalink)
    I was a phycho in college, still am.

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/30 02:53:30 (permalink)
    Hi, Frank,
     
    I've been away for a while so I missed the first mix before you fixed the BGVs, but this current version sure sounds big, clean and very fresh sounding!
     
    Excellent musicianship and production work, as always from you!
     
    Have a great Labor Day weekend, buddy!
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/30 07:46:13 (permalink)
    nice one.
     
    The BGV in this sound like a gospel choir..... a tight choir.... this is not necessarily a bad thing for a song in this style.
     
    thumbs up.
     
     

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/30 10:22:55 (permalink)
    Good one Frank...
    I had a positive outlook for at least 10 minutes after listening.........               
     
                                                                                    

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/30 11:04:18 (permalink)
    cool song :)
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/30 12:15:47 (permalink)
    Up to your usual quality, nothing like fresh ears on a mix.
     
    Thanks for sharing.
     

     
    PS. This self image thing is there any advice for someone who looks, like an axminster, walks like a damaged axminster and even sounds like an axminster when it speaks.

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... 2013/08/31 20:56:38 (permalink)
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    I was a phycho in college, still am.

    They made a movie, I think maybe.
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/01 14:47:54 (permalink)
    Wow! REALLY like this!
     
    Love the stops in the drum machine and all the layers of instruments! Superb arrangements of instruments.
     
    I am betting that guitar in there is that hollow body in your picture?
     
    What kind of guitar is that? I have wanted a hollow body for about 40 years now.... and I just keep procrastinating ...and the prices just keep going up!
     
    Good job on this track by the way.

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/01 15:36:34 (permalink)
    I enjoyed your song with the big jazzy arrangement
    That's a great looking guitar you've got there
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/01 17:04:22 (permalink)
    Hi Frank, I'm one of those guys that if I had somebody to do all the things I'm not that great at then they'd be doin' those things but all I got is me and I always hope that my offerings are reviewed with that perspective. So backgrounds and ALL I love this!!!

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/01 21:38:17 (permalink)
    This one is special, Frank.  It's big and beefy on my system.  The lyrics are quite good, and the performances shine.  Thanks for raising the bar, yet again.

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/03 11:28:24 (permalink)
    As I've said before about this tune.... it should have been the theme song for a TV sitcom of the same name in the 70s, it just has that sound!  But honestly Fank, I liked the original far better than this remake.  It was so perfect before, it now sounds too busy for my old ears.  It doesn't have the snap of the early version.  There are some cool things there but I don't think it translates as well... but then I was a HUGE fan of the earlier version.
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/03 22:30:51 (permalink)
    Thanks everyone... I really do appreciate everyone listening and your feedback is golden...
     
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    Hi, Frank,
     I've been away for a while so I missed the first mix before you fixed the BGVs, but this current version sure sounds big, clean and very fresh sounding!
     Excellent musicianship and production work, as always from you!
     Have a great Labor Day weekend, buddy!
    Bob

    Thanks Bob... I had a great weekend... I hope you did too...
     
    Guitarhacker nice one.
    The BGV in this sound like a gospel choir..... a tight choir.... this is not necessarily a bad thing for a song in this style.
    thumbs up.
    Thanks Herb... I spent a lot of time on those BGVs
     
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    Good one Frank...
    I had a positive outlook for at least 10 minutes after listening.........   

    Awright... that's agood thang... Thanks Timbo...
    dudur
    cool song :)

    Thanks
     
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    Up to your usual quality, nothing like fresh ears on a mix.
     Thanks for sharing.
     
     PS. This self image thing is there any advice for someone who looks, like an axminster, walks like a damaged axminster and even sounds like an axminster when it speaks.

    Thanks Wookiee... what's an axminster..?
    krsongs
    Wow! REALLY like this!
     Love the stops in the drum machine and all the layers of instruments! Superb arrangements of instruments.
     I am betting that guitar in there is that hollow body in your picture?
     What kind of guitar is that? I have wanted a hollow body for about 40 years now.... and I just keep procrastinating ...and the prices just keep going up!
     Good job on this track by the way.

    Thanks... no I didn't use my orange Gretsch 6120 Jr on this tune... I used an old Stratocaster... Glad you liked...
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    I enjoyed your song with the big jazzy arrangement
    That's a great looking guitar you've got there

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    Hi Frank, I'm one of those guys that if I had somebody to do all the things I'm not that great at then they'd be doin' those things but all I got is me and I always hope that my offerings are reviewed with that perspective. So backgrounds and ALL I love this!!!

    Thanks Tony... I love your music...
     
    Lynn
    This one is special, Frank.  It's big and beefy on my system.  The lyrics are quite good, and the performances shine.  Thanks for raising the bar, yet again.

    Thanks Lynn...  I tried to improve a song I wrote several years ago... I'm still not satisified... but I do like the production a little more now...
     
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/04 04:06:37 (permalink)
    Hi Frank, 
     
    I had given this song a listen about 5 days ago .....
     
    I think your current mix and edits blow away the version I had heard .
     
    as we all know ,
    I'm not a singer ...so , I can't really comment on the vocals......
     
    overall , I think they are good and I wish I could sing half as good as you or Robbie ...
     
    I'm impressed that you have the music end of this song so happening and grooving ...
    Top Form , Top Gear ...WOW, the musical end of things here on this song sounds Great 
     
     
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    post edited by kennywtelejazz - 2013/09/04 06:19:05

                       
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/04 11:35:29 (permalink)
    Hi Frank, good as always, sounds like a theme tune for a tv show ; )
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/04 14:59:04 (permalink)
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    As I've said before about this tune.... it should have been the theme song for a TV sitcom of the same name in the 70s, it just has that sound!  But honestly Fank, I liked the original far better than this remake.  It was so perfect before, it now sounds too busy for my old ears.  It doesn't have the snap of the early version.  There are some cool things there but I don't think it translates as well... but then I was a HUGE fan of the earlier version.
     
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    Thanks for your honest feedback... I never was satisfied with this tune from the first album, so I decided to tweak it a bit... add some harmony, and a few licks here & there... I may have gone a little overboard... I'm still not through with it...  Thanks again for your thoughts Daryl... your opinion means a lot to me...  
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/04 15:17:37 (permalink)
    Thanks Wookiee... what's an axminster..?
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/05 13:16:30 (permalink)
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    Hi Frank, 
     I had given this song a listen about 5 days ago .....
     I think your current mix and edits blow away the version I had heard .
     as we all know ,
    I'm not a singer ...so , I can't really comment on the vocals......
     overall , I think they are good and I wish I could sing half as good as you or Robbie ...
     I'm impressed that you have the music end of this song so happening and grooving ...
    Top Form , Top Gear ...WOW, the musical end of things here on this song sounds Great 
     Kenny
     

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    Hi Frank, good as always, sounds like a theme tune for a tv show ; )
     Rik

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/05 15:26:35 (permalink)
    Thanks for posting this.  Great listen!  Smooth production, and love your bluesy style.

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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/06 13:50:53 (permalink)
    I've just uploaded a new improved mix... any & all feedback is welcome & appreciated...

    a song about one's self image... 
    "Owe It All To My Self" (latest mix 9-6-13)
    http://tanton.bandcamp.com/track/owe-it-all-to-myself
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/06 17:40:44 (permalink)
    It is always interesting to read the comments about older versions while listening to the latest.  It sounds great.  Whatever the background vocals sounded like before, they work now.  In fact, I wanted a bit more.
     
    And it does put a smile on the face.  The sax reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live, when it was funny.
     
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/07 09:48:22 (permalink)
    "The sax reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live, when it was funny."
     
    or the Edgar Winter Group?
     
     
    This song just gets better and better.
     
    I think the vocal sounds really good... but if I step back way far and think about it... I think the song could go to another level if it had just the right voice "cast" for the part, if you will.
     
    I can't put my finger on it yet... but I would keep an ear out for a vocalist that some how has the magical ability to convey the deep message that the song presents with their innate vocal style.
     
    I can't figure out what to suggest for but I know that the song is super and when you find just the right vocalist that the song will be transcended to a higher level.
     
    I hope I didn't come off as an a hole for sharing that opinion. I can think of many friends who should sing this song to them selves every morning. It's a great song and a great song idea and the mix is simply fantastic.
     
    Thanks for sharing.
     
    all the best,
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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (Cool Fool) 2013/09/08 10:59:24 (permalink)
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    Thanks for posting this.  Great listen!  Smooth production, and love your bluesy style.

    Thanks Walt...
     
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    It is always interesting to read the comments about older versions while listening to the latest.  It sounds great.  Whatever the background vocals sounded like before, they work now.  In fact, I wanted a bit more.
     And it does put a smile on the face.  The sax reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live, when it was funny.
     @

    Yes, I remember those days, when the music was good, and the jokes were funny... I quit watching decades ago... now I really feel old... I'm glad you liked the tune...
     
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    "The sax reminds me of the old Saturday Night Live, when it was funny."
    or the Edgar Winter Group?
    This song just gets better and better.
    I think the vocal sounds really good... but if I step back way far and think about it... I think the song could go to another level if it had just the right voice "cast" for the part, if you will.
    I can't put my finger on it yet... but I would keep an ear out for a vocalist that some how has the magical ability to convey the deep message that the song presents with their innate vocal style.
    I can't figure out what to suggest for but I know that the song is super and when you find just the right vocalist that the song will be transcended to a higher level.
     I hope I didn't come off as an a hole for sharing that opinion. I can think of many friends who should sing this song to them selves every morning. It's a great song and a great song idea and the mix is simply fantastic.
     Thanks for sharing.
     all the best,
    mike

    not at all... I appreciate the honest feedback...
    I agree, this song would benefit greatly from another vocalist's treatment... I've never been happy with mine... years ago, I did a bluesy-country version of this, and pitched it to Hank Williams Jr... but I never heard back from him...   Thanks again Mike
     


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    Re: Owe It All To My Self... (final mix ?) 2013/09/08 12:01:57 (permalink)
    Great job Frank.
     
    Maybe it's my ears today but even though it's a solid mix it seems just tad crowded (keys and guitars seems to be overlapping?)
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