Mosvalve
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Owen Corning 703 or Roxul Rockboard core?
I am treating my studio and was wondering which core is better, the Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard. I need 10 panels 48"x24"x4". What have you found to work best? Thanks
post edited by Mosvalve - 2017/05/18 01:20:09
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 00:08:52
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Mosvalve
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 00:35:31
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Thanks for the detailed specs
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 00:59:39
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Are you creating an isolated room within a room or just looking for the best soundproofing material to add to a normal room?
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Mosvalve
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 01:14:26
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I'm looking for the best soundproofing material to add to a normal room?
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 01:19:13
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My space is 37ft long by 17ft wide but I am only treating a 15ft by 12ft area where I mostly mix. It's three rooms separated only by pillars so it's an open space. The other rooms have furniture and stuff.
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 01:43:30
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Wow, nice! So you really could make a room inside a room!
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/18 02:15:47
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Yeah I have a lot of options in this space.
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/19 14:38:11
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I don’t think “soundproofing” is the best term to describe what you will achieve by using the Owens Corning product, acoustical treatment is probably a better descriptor.
To truly soundproof a space you need to use a combination of isolation building techniques where the two sides of the walls (and I guess you can include floor and ceiling in that) are decouple from one another and building materials that act as “limp mass” (thick vinyl sheet falls into this category).
One of the reasons why the unfaced Owens Corning 703 in particular is used in these applications has to do with its frequency dependent absorption characteristics. Compare the sound absorption coefficients at 500 Hz for a 2” layer of the different 700 series products on the Owens Corning product data sheet and you will see what I mean.
Why the 703 does what it does with respect to sound (obviously) has to do with what happens when the sound wave hits the surface of the material … and the chemistry and physics of it is quite complicated. So, if you think about it, covering the 703 either by encapsulating in a wall or covering it with material (like a grill cloth) changes it.
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/19 21:04:02
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I don’t think “soundproofing” is the best term to describe what you will achieve by using the Owens Corning product, acoustical treatment is probably a better descriptor.
To truly soundproof a space you need to use a combination of isolation building techniques where the two sides of the walls (and I guess you can include floor and ceiling in that) are decouple from one another and building materials that act as “limp mass” (thick vinyl sheet falls into this category).
One of the reasons why the unfaced Owens Corning 703 in particular is used in these applications has to do with its frequency dependent absorption characteristics. Compare the sound absorption coefficients at 500 Hz for a 2” layer of the different 700 series products on the Owens Corning product data sheet and you will see what I mean.
Why the 703 does what it does with respect to sound (obviously) has to do with what happens when the sound wave hits the surface of the material … and the chemistry and physics of it is quite complicated. So, if you think about it, covering the 703 either by encapsulating in a wall or covering it with material (like a grill cloth) changes it.
Yeah I'm not trying to soundproof the room. It's more about the frequencies.
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/21 22:46:09
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I ended up using Roxul to make five 24" x 48" panels. I mounted two behind my monitors, one overhead and two to soak up some early reflections on sidewalls. I've been happy with the results. I chose the Roxul purely on price and availability in my area. I think Corning 703 would have worked well too but I couldn't find a convenient supplier. The Roxul was easy to work with, very little mess and easy cleanup. I did all the work in the garage and sealed the sheets in wood and fabric. I've had them is use for several years.  Image by tagruvto, on Flickr
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Re: Owen Corning 701 or Roxul Rockboard core?
2017/05/21 23:04:30
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Does that a ceiling fan have a dimmer switch for the lights?  
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