cclarry
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Ozone 6.1
Everyone is selling Ozone 6.1... But there is nothing in my account. I assume an update is imminent... https://www.izotope.com/
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bitflipper
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 08:21:36
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☄ Helpfulby rtucker55 2015/03/19 09:01:30
Based on recent history, Ozone 7 will lose one of the modules and a few useful features, require massively parallel processing to function, and they'll still charge an extra grand for the cool stuff.
I am a big fan of Ozone (version 4) and have previously upgraded three times. But I've skipped the last two versions (I won't call them "upgrades") because they keep messing with things that already work fine, while sucking up ever more CPU cycles in the process.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 09:52:51
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2015/03/25 15:12:57
I have Ozone 5 and upgraded to Ozone 6 but to be truthful I still use Ozone 5. I would not recommend Ozone 6, for those upgrading. If you never had Ozone then Ozone 6 would be something to look seriously at.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 10:19:53
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2015/03/25 15:13:06
I own Ozone 5 and got Ozone 6 in the free upgrade grace period.
I only use Ozone 5 , don't like Ozone 6 much.
I don't see anything about Ozone 6.1 at all in my account, no emails nada.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 10:55:35
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Same here... I upgraded to Ozone 5 (from v3) not long before Ozone 6 came out since I didn't have any overwhelming need. But the upgrade price was right and I'm glad I did.
But as much as I like the looks of v6, for a plugin that I use just once at the end of a project, well...
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 13:00:00
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I've been looking and comparing Ozone to WaveLab lately because I'd like to get a good mastering suite but I've been pausing at buying Ozone because I keep hearing a lot of complaints about it. >_<
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 14:35:49
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2015/03/25 00:09:11
Don't let all the complaining put you off, TerraSin. We're complaining because the first 4 versions spoiled us for big advances with each new release. Ozone 5 added so little we were disappointed. Ozone 6 actually took away a few features, and although none of them were critical it was still annoying.
IMO you can't do any better than Ozone as a DIY mastering solution without sinking a significant amount of time into self-education and a significant amount of money into multiple plugins. Ozone offers excellent bang for the buck (you get multiple modules for the price of one high-end limiter alone), and best of all, it's a breeze to use for beginners.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 15:54:01
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I agree 100% with bitflipper.
Before I bought Ozone 5, I also looked at TRacksS. Ozone 5 won out hands down, especially for a relative novice like myself.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 17:31:06
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Email finally arrived....
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 19:21:31
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I got the 6.1 update but visually I don't see any difference.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 19:35:39
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/19 20:02:20
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Hi, Izzy, and thanks for stopping by. I don't know if we've ever had anyone from iZotope come down to our little corner of the interwebs before. I hope you'll continue to check in once in awhile, as many here are long-time fans of your company's stuff so it'll be a (mostly) friendly crowd. Izzy, I am intrigued by "Adaptive Release Mode". Unfortunately, the description tells me nothing about what ARM does differently from previous modes and other auto-release limiters. Aren't all intelligent-release dynamics processors adaptive? - OK, I read the second link in your post, and reading between the lines it sounds like the limiter is now treating transients separately. Kind of like what Pro-L does?
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/20 07:49:55
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Nothing against Ozone but, I personally can not justify the upgrade price between 5 advanced and 6 advanced.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/20 08:11:47
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Actually there's an ex Cakewalker working at iZotope. Is it Alex Westner? I can't remember for sure who but it's been a while now.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/23 21:45:21
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☄ Helpfulby olemon 2015/03/25 15:15:43
I'm glad I saw this thread. I also upgraded to Ozone 6 but much prefer 5. I will get the free update and compare again.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/24 18:01:01
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bitflipperIzzy, I am intrigued by "Adaptive Release Mode". Unfortunately, the description tells me nothing about what ARM does differently from previous modes and other auto-release limiters. Aren't all intelligent-release dynamics processors adaptive? Hi bitflipper! I'm happy to be on the Cakewalk forums! Here are a few things that make Ozone's Adaptive Release unique: - Adaptive Release reacts to the crest factor of the incoming signal (high crest factor - transients - lowers the release time, low crest factor - sustained notes - increase the release time). This isn't particularly unique, as some other intelligent compressors do this as well, I just thought it was a good explanation.
- Instead of automatically setting release time (overriding any manually set release time, giving the user no control at all) it scales the manual release time (from 0.2x to 2x, I believe), giving the user the ability to guide the release time while still benefitting from its intelligence. I find it sounds good consistently with a release time of 100ms (scaling from 20ms to 200ms).
- Adaptive Release processes each frequency band separately. So if you're using the Ozone Dynamics Module in 4-band mode, Adaptive Release is scaling the release time for each frequency band independently. This can really help a mix when you have a low bass sustaining long notes with a quick hi hat playing on top of it, for example.
If there are any auto-release compressors you especially like let me know and I'll have our engineers take a look at them. We're always seeking to improve our products. Thanks!
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/25 00:00:02
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That's a pretty good explanation. Thanks.
I'm still using Ozone 4 about 75% of the time and FabFilter Pro-L the other 25%.
I like what Pro-L's Dynamic mode does for transients, and it sounds like Ozone's new mode does something similar, at least to the extent that it differentiates between transients and everything else. Pro-L's dynamic mode goes one step further, actually boosting transients before processing. It's pretty cool if you've left it enough overhead.
Pro-L's thing is a two-stage process: an initial algorithm that favors transients (fast release) and then handing off processing to a second, more conventional algorithm. I don't know if that equates to adjusting release times based on crest factor, or if it's fundamentally different from Ozone's adaptive release mode. I suspect both approaches, even if they are different, are shooting for the same result: preserving transients as much as possible while still keeping average RMS high.
It's very cool that this applies to the multi-band compressor as well as the limiter. Maybe that should be the headline.
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Re: Ozone 6.1
2015/03/25 06:37:59
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bitflipper
IMO you can't do any better than Ozone as a DIY mastering solution without sinking a significant amount of time into self-education and a significant amount of money into multiple plugins. Ozone offers excellent bang for the buck (you get multiple modules for the price of one high-end limiter alone), and best of all, it's a breeze to use for beginners.
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